Originally posted by Omega Vision
[b]Blackstaff Ebenezer McCoy from the Dresden Files by Jim Butcher for Elite Meta.Reasoning: Though he appears as a kindly old man at first/mentor to Harry Dresden it's revealed about mid way through the series that he's
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really an assassin given a license to kill by the White Council and for the last few hundred years has been doing all the Council's dirty work. In the book Death Masks he is explicitly credited with using his magic to decay an Old Soviet satellite's orbit so that it would crash into a Vampire's South American fortress, killing said Vampire and 300 of his servants and slaves. After Harry confronts him he takes credit for a number of cataclysms including Tunguska and Krakatoa.
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When ranking Ganon are we taking him sans the Triforce of Power?
I doubt it. It's the source of his power and he's only without it in special circumstances or flashbacks.
Originally posted by YoBroOnly they aren't.
The Six Paths of Pain is Low Herald level, there shouldn't be much doubt there. They're (yes, they're) one very powerful Naruto character, though not in same tier as Dragonball characters.Extreme speed, 6 bodies, revival, gravity attacks, missiles, summoning of tons of weird animals, soul absorbation, absorbation of non-psychical attacks, etc.
Extreme speed? Oh? Tell me, how fast are they? 🙂 The fastest they have ever been proven to be is barely supersonic. The six bodies mean little when you consider that all but one of them are weak as hell. Gravity attacks, and not very powerful ones at that, his strongest Shinra Tensei only leveled a village, and alot of people survived it. Missiles that can destroy very small buildings, and the body that fires them is frail. Weird animals that are all pretty weak, except that rhino, which is just a big rhino. Soul absorption requires contact from one of the bodies, and as said, the bodies are weak. Said absorbing Pain has a glass jaw.
Originally posted by YoBroGanondorf would wreck Pain. 😐 It would be so easy as to be laughable. He is stronger, and far more powerful. He could rape Nagato's soul immediately, and could avoid all of their attacks through intangibility.
So you want Pain to be put beneath Ganondorf?I'm a big Zelda fan and Ganondorf is powerful, but really, he can't defeat Pain. Pain captures him in a big ball of rock, surrounding a miniature "black hole"...
Originally posted by NemeBro
Only they aren't.Extreme speed? Oh? Tell me, how fast are they? 🙂 The fastest they have ever been proven to be is barely supersonic. The six bodies mean little when you consider that all but one of them are weak as hell. Gravity attacks, and not very powerful ones at that, his strongest Shinra Tensei only leveled a village, and alot of people survived it. Missiles that can destroy very small buildings, and the body that fires them is frail. Weird animals that are all pretty weak, except that rhino, which is just a big rhino. Soul absorption requires contact from one of the bodies, and as said, the bodies are weak. Said absorbing Pain has a glass jaw.
Ganondorf would wreck Pain. 😐 It would be so easy as to be laughable. He is stronger, and far more powerful. He could rape Nagato's soul immediately, and could avoid all of their attacks through intangibility.
I've played Legend of Zelda games for years. I've beaten both Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, the 3 games in which Ganondorf plays a major role, and he's my favourite Zelda character; I know him pretty well.
I've read every single chapter of Naruto released yet, and Pain got one of the powers that I find the most interesting; I know Pain very well.
Pain doesn't have the Master Sword which, as made clear in Wind Waker, is the only thing capable of hurting Ganondorf (though he can be stunned by Light Arrows). So he technically can't hurt Ganondorf. But he can still defeat him and even kill him, without directly inflicting damage. Here is some of Pain's bodies that I'm pretty sure would at least stand a chance against Ganondorf:
Human Path:
He could steal Ganondorf's soul, and he is much faster and stronger than Ganondorf (even though Ganondorf demonstrated great power in Twilight Princess, breaking free from those chains). He proved his strenght and speed by blocking a kick from Sage Mode Jiraiya, who threw that gigantic summon away.
Deva Path:
Chibaku Tensei. Enough said. Ganondorf can teleport, yes, but when he is stuck in the middle of a big ball of powerfully and tightly connected rock, held together by a miniature "black hole", I don't see him doing much. Ganondorf might be able to teleport away, however, I wouldn't mind a feat where Ganondorf teleported away at a distance bigger than the areal of Pain's Chibaku Tensei. If he has done so before, my bad.
Naraka Path:
Naraka Path uses the "Outer Path"-jutsu and... Well... Control over life and death. Should Ganondorf live or die?
As for the rest of Pain's paths, no, they can't truely defeat Ganondorf. They're stronger and faster than him, though, and one of them can rape him with tons of gigantic monsters, another can absorb all of his magic attacks, and the last can bombard him with missiles and lasers...
No, in my eyes, it just doesn't make sense that Ganondorf should be able to defeat Pain... Though I gotta say, Ganondorf is one of my favourite characters in all of fiction. I like the idea of the gerudos, according to Ganondorf, being victims of racism by Hylians, and that he in that sense is more of a tragic villain. They don't get anymore tragic than Pain, but Kishi overdid it a little... That killed puppy was a bit too sob-sob for me.
Originally posted by chomperx9
How do we know that ?
Originally posted by YoBro
No, but he is still too tragic for my taste.Please, argumentate how Ganondorf would defeat Pain? I gave my reasons for why Pain would win.
I dunno, Po did take some pretty heavy hits from Tai Lung even before he started using pressure points, and he was able to reflect those hits back at him.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Anyone here ever watch that old school cartoon "King Arthur & The Knights of Justice"?
**** yeah. Awesome theme song. What about Pirates of Dark Water? 313
Originally posted by XanatosForever
I dunno, Po did take some pretty heavy hits from Tai Lung even before he started using pressure points, and he was able to reflect those hits back at him.
None of those hits were anywhere near what Iron Fistd ishes out. Since that's all we saw we can't make the huge jump of him being able to tank any hits just because he did Tai Lungs. Which were really low in comparison. Also Iron Fist can cut through people