Originally posted by carver9
Ichigo... High HeraldYuYu... low to mid Herald
Naruto... I would put him on Hulks league... Low Herald. He is strong, fast as hell, and has amazing versatility.
Kenshiro... elite meta
Taguro... high meta
I can only comment on shows/manga I've watched/read watched, but...
Ichigo is a hell no. Until you can actually provide me with some high herald feats. As for Kenshiro... I'm inclined to agree.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The answer is no to everything but Toguro and maybe Kenshiro.Find it kinda funny you consider Ichigo above Yusuke, Ichigo has only just now reached mountain busting level (More like a large hill to be perfectly honest), Yusuke was of that level during the Dark Tournament.
Why is it no to all of them? Destruction power, Ichigo has shown more destructive powers than some high heralds on the comic forum. Physically, the guy lifted far above 100 tons, moved a long distance almost instantly (super speed) and his destructive power along with his durability is on another level.
I would give Ichigo the majority against any Gl. Just because he havent wrecked a planet yet does not mean that he isnt powerful because if that is the case, again, we have plenty of mid to high heralds that do not have these feats.
In regards to YuYu, I wanted to put him as a high herald also but I'm going to be like you all for a change and underate him as well.
Ichigo has shown more destructive powers than some high heralds on the comic forum.
And there are low and mid heralds who hose him in destructive feats.
Physically, the guy lifted far above 100 tons
Which is a high meta feat.
moved a long distance almost instantly
Which isn't a high herald feat.
and his destructive power along with his durability is on another level.
Your hyperbole isn't a feat.
Just because he havent wrecked a planet yet does not mean that he isnt powerful because if that is the case, again, we have plenty of mid to high heralds that do not have these feats.
Once again no feats. People who lack powers feats either have exotic powers of combat feats which earn them they're place.
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
And there are low and mid heralds who hose him in destructive feats.Which is a high meta feat.
Which isn't a high herald feat.
Your hyperbole isn't a feat.
Once again no feats. People who lack powers feats either have exotic powers of combat feats which earn them they're place.
Everything that you said is meaningless since again there are NUMEROUS of people that are high herald or mid that do not have the feats that Ichigo have.
Black Adam is a Mid Herald and Ichigo durability, output of power, combat speed showings, lifting feats, etc... is above his.
The only thing that you can use to help you with Black Adam is the "who he fought" argument but if that was the case, Rulk, Hulk, along with Doomsday would be skyfathers and Thor would be Celestial level.
Like I said before, Ichigo feats put him at the high herald level and again, I can see him defeating/giving a fight to some of the high heralds, again, if you look at feats and stop ignoring eveything in the anime like yo usually do.
The only thing that you can use to help you with Black Adam is the "who he fought" argument but if that was the case, Rulk, Hulk, along with Doomsday would be skyfathers and Thor would be Celestial level.
So you're saying that combat feats don't count now? You the great proponent of Dragon ball Z which is based of combat feats?
Does Ichigo have any feats that warrant him being in high herald? No. Has he fought anyone that has feats that would qualify them for high herald? No.
Also Black Adam took the combined firepower of every gun and bomb on Earth from War and shrugged it off. Care to come back with a comparable feat from Ichigo?
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
So you're saying that combat feats don't count now? You the great proponent of Dragon ball Z which is based of combat feats?Does Ichigo have any feats that warrant him being in high herald? No. Has he fought anyone that has feats that would qualify them for high herald? No.
Also Black Adam took the combined firepower of every gun and bomb on Earth from War and shrugged it off. Care to come back with a comparable feat from Ichigo?
Black Adam has also been stalemated by Hawkman on more than one occasion. He has also had his face burned off by heat vision and Jay gave him a fight.
You cant compare who Ichigo fought in Anime vs who people fought in DC and Marvel unless they were combine universes.
I never told you that was the reason why Goku would beat another person. I told you Goku would beat whoever he is with due to speed, power, durability, and punching power. I never said Goku would beat person A) because he fought Frieza. Get that outta here.
Like I said, Ichigo feats puts him above numerous of high or mid heralds.
Originally posted by carver9Well first I am going to state the obvious: I know much more about the characters than you do.
Why is it no to all of them? Destruction power, Ichigo has shown more destructive powers than some high heralds on the comic forum. Physically, the guy lifted far above 100 tons, moved a long distance almost instantly (super speed) and his destructive power along with his durability is on another level.I would give Ichigo the majority against any Gl. Just because he havent wrecked a planet yet does not mean that he isnt powerful because if that is the case, again, we have plenty of mid to high heralds that do not have these feats.
In regards to YuYu, I wanted to put him as a high herald also but I'm going to be like you all for a change and underate him as well.
Funny, every "feat" you just mentioned I can alot to characters who are not high heralds, in fact I know one person currently a high meta who has everything Ichigo has except speed only on a higher level; Akuma.
Ichigo is class 100, sure, I will give you, but not to any signifigant degree. He is fast, hypersonic by a slight margin, and even now after a power-up his destructive power only allowed him to cut in half a small hill.
Superman is a high herald, yes? He has cut moons in half by flying by them. Compared to Ichigo that's a signifigant difference in power.
Yusuke is not a high herald either. You need to go away.
Black Adam has also been stalemated by Hawkman on more than one occasion
Scans please.
He has also had his face burned off by heat vision
From one of the most powerful beings on Earth.
Jay gave him a fight
Scans please. Also I'd like some speed feats from Ichigo that put him at Jay's level of speed.
Once more, What feats does Ichigo have that are high herald? I don't if care you think the tier system is wrong because some people are on it though power scaling. I want actual things Ichigo has done.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well first I am going to state the obvious: I know much more about the characters than you do.Funny, every "feat" you just mentioned I can alot to characters who are not high heralds, in fact I know one person currently a high meta who has everything Ichigo has except speed only on a higher level; Akuma.
Ichigo is class 100, sure, I will give you, but not to any signifigant degree. He is fast, hypersonic by a slight margin, and even now after a power-up his destructive power only allowed him to cut in half a small hill.
Superman is a high herald, yes? He has cut moons in half by flying by them. Compared to Ichigo that's a signifigant difference in power.
Yusuke is not a high herald either. You need to go away.
LOL... Nemebro, show me Superman flying past a moon destroying it. I know what feat you are taking about and he flew THROUGH the moon. Put up the scan Nemebro... it will explain everything that happened.
I'll post to the rest of this when I get back on but lets see that scan that you love to bring up (read a lil more Supes comic because you misinterpret a lot of stuff).
Originally posted by carver9
LOL... Nemebro, show me Superman flying past a moon destroying it. I know what feat you are taking about and he flew THROUGH the moon. Put up the scan Nemebro... it will explain everything that happened.I'll post to the rest of this when I get back on but lets see that scan that you love to bring up (read a lil more Supes comic because you misinterpret a lot of stuff).
I'm still not seeing any feats from Ichigo on that level...
Originally posted by carver9I am well aware of the context of the scan, Luthor is president, Superman is butthurt, his "speed trail" if I recall right was not through the moon, it was on the side of it. I'm not going to look for the specific scan because I wouldn't know exactly where to find it.
LOL... Nemebro, show me Superman flying past a moon destroying it. I know what feat you are taking about and he flew THROUGH the moon. Put up the scan Nemebro... it will explain everything that happened.I'll post to the rest of this when I get back on but lets see that scan that you love to bring up (read a lil more Supes comic because you misinterpret a lot of stuff).
Although way to detract from the ****ing point at hand, Ichigo, nor anyone in Bleach, has ever done 1/100th the amount of damage Superman did in that scan, whether he fly by it, through it, or ****ed it.
Originally posted by carver9
Black Adam has also been stalemated by Hawkman on more than one occasion.
Seriously just stop posting.