Originally posted by Phenomenol
Nope, you said he was "trash talking" and I asked you to show me where that is stated in the CANON??? You have failed to do this.Indeed he is, Super Kanzentai Cell knows better now.....
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/SuperKanznetai%20cell.gif
Lets see who is trolling! Here is Creshok BELIVING claims/WORDS/HYPERBOLE from another comic just to support himself......
Creshok:"Don't bother with Phenomenol. He insists the Odin fight where galaxies were destroyed was "metaphorical."
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=460535&pagenumber=9Creshok:"The spirit of phenomenol is upon you.
You know the guy who says that his fight never happened:"
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=460535&pagenumber=11But we have Creshok not excepting words from Cell yet he takes words from other comics...DOUBLE STANDARD...
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Originally posted by WHITEBEARDYes, because it was later confirmed that the Galaxies were no longer there, It was shown on panel... unlike with Cell's trash talking.
😆 😆 😆 😆 Perfect now I know what im dealing with.
Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
Freeza: You'll never beat me!
Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Cell: No one can stand against me!
Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Buu: No one could be stronger than I!
Buu: They're no match for me! Even if they Fuse!
Buu: Super Vegetto? So what?
Buu: Do you actually think you have a chance?
Buu: I won't lose to someone like you!
Buu: Haha! You're helpless.Notice a pattern?
Main Entry: trash talk
Function: noun
: disparaging, taunting, or boastful comments especially between opponents trying to intimidate each other
- trash-talk /'trash-"tok/ verb
- trash-talk·er /-"to-k&r/ noun
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Again, None of that is canon..^^^You are going against the canon. It was all part of girl-Kagato's plan - remember, she was still part of Noike at the time, and she took over Noike's body for a moment and caused the Chobimaru to fire, knowing Tenchi would put himself in the way so that there was ENOUGH ENERGY FOR HIM TO BE KNOCKED BACK TO THE NEXUS OF TIME (just like in episode 19)!! That is canon!
If you use your own theories again I will dismiss it.
It's not my own theory, it is what is clearly shown in the episode, which is the very definition of canon. Tenchi going to the hyperdimension that second time didn't affect the plot at all, since he was back and just fine in the very next scene. FACT: The blast never hit him. FACT: 3 and 2 LHWs have blocked much stronger forces than that in the past. FACT: It takes twice as much energy to summon one additional LHW. FACT: Tenchi had never summoned 6 LHWs before and was straining to do so before the blast even reached him. These are all canon facts.
And I said your word is Bullocks because Clay states this before Tenchi begins to even escape.
Again, wrong. They were sucked into the black hole, and as soon as they passed the event horizon, time dilation froze them in place, but Tenchi's LHWs activated and he was able to move. Dr. Clay didn't make his statement until after the energy was already escaping the black hole. Not that it matters, since nullifying the Chobimaru's blast is far easier than nullifying the gravity beyond the event horizon of a black hole.
No, it was BLOWN into pieces, any moron could see that, but you always pass your theories as fact.
You're simply denying reality. Look at it again. Where did that huge chunk of the moon go? It didn't go anywhere. It just disappeared.
Damn you fail, Goku COULD sense from earth he just needed to know which direction it was in, Hell, you just seen him teleport to heaven in your own scans.... like nothing! You do drugs??
He never sensed the ki of New Namek from Earth, so therefore your statement is completely unsupported.
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2262/gokuitlimitedde7.gif
Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
You Keep showing your ignorance.Didn't I tell you to get your bull approved by someone who reads! NOT LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES, but really reads the manga.
Thats Fallen Uriel, Beelzebub (my fav bastrad!! char) planned the fall of Uriel & thats him who is fighting DS if thats not Fallen Ureil then Beelzebub plan fails cuz then he would not have a dark augoeides to combat DS.
But that is Fallen Uriel, & you fail.
Fallen Uriel's Augoeides form is much larger. You're the one who doesn't read Bastard if you claim DS can't destroy a planet.
Goku > Cell. We all know what Cell can do.You don't even read bastrad!! I am not taking you serious.
Yeah, we know what Cell can do, make a bunch of hyperboles and bluffs then get his ass kicked by a 12 - year - old.
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Creshosk all your Opinions are in quotes. I don't know how to use the Quote tags on this forum. 🙂
"If that helps you sleep at night..."
Thanks for leting me know you hate DBZ.
"Prove it."
There are no other chars in the Canon stateing that he was wrong.
"Prove he was telling the truth rather than more of this :"
I did, already.
"Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!"
Cell was the strongest when he gained his perfect body.
Thats way Cell let the Z fighters train for his game.
"Cell: I'm impossible to kill"
What chapter did cell say this?
"Cell: No one can stand against me!"
Chapter # please.
"Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!"
This is true, again Cell was stronger then all of the Z fighters, thats way he let the tarain for his Cell Game.
"Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me."
Chapter # please
"Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me."
Gohan cound not beat cell in SSJ1 mode, this is also true.
"Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!"
Chapter # please
"Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!"
Chapter # Please
"Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!"
This is true for the 4th time, there are no other char in the Canon that states him wrong.
"Cell: I'm going to finish you now."
Chapter # please
"The unleashing of not only his, but gohan's energy should have done more damage to the earth than the crater it created. I mean that was enough energy to destroy two solar system's right? and yet when it was poured out .. wher'd all that energy go?"
Gohan has KI control, like all other DBZ char's.
"Can't prove a negative. default is he wasn't telling the truth due to his past lies."
You just Hate DBZ's power, you have NO argument, infact you got this from Mike.
The claims about the Odin fight were stated in narration, by the omniscient narrator, and confirmed by tons of characters throughout the universe. That's completely different from one character (who is known to overestimate himself) bluffing about his power, yet never demonstrating it.
How many times do I need to post this?
This is the result of Cell's "solar - system destroying attack"
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8497/cellsolarsystembluff6ry4.gif
Anyone who thinks this was actually enough power to destroy the solar system is completely delusional.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
[B]Fallen Uriel's Augoeides form is much larger. You're the one who doesn't read Bastard if you claim DS can't destroy a planet.
LOL, you just talk, & LIE about reading Bastrad!!.
You have no argument. I had to even explain to you what was going on in the scan you posted.
I never said Fallen Uriel Augoeides form was small.
Read my post before you post Endless LIES 😆
You don't read Bastrad!! STOP LYING!
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDRight... I hate DBZ which is why I know so much about it right?
Creshosk all your Opinions are in quotes. I don't know how to use the Quote tags on this forum. 🙂"If that helps you sleep at night..."
Thanks for leting me know you hate DBZ.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDOther than the actions that occured... and actually no other character really stated he was right... Cause he wasn't.
"Prove it."There are no other chars in the Canon stateing that he was wrong.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDNo you didn't.
"Prove he was telling the truth rather than more of this :"I did, already.
"He's right because no one said he was wrong is an argument from silence. That's a logical fallacy, which means your argument is not valid.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDI thought you'd read DBZ?
"Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!"Cell was the strongest when he gained his perfect body.
Thats way Cell let the Z fighters train for his game."Cell: I'm impossible to kill"
What chapter did cell say this?
"Cell: No one can stand against me!"
Chapter # please.
"Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!"
This is true, again Cell was stronger then all of the Z fighters, thats way he let the tarain for his Cell Game.
"Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me."
Chapter # please
"Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me."
Gohan cound not beat cell in SSJ1 mode, this is also true.
"Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!"
Chapter # please
"Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!"Chapter # Please
"Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!"
This is true for the 4th time, there are no other char in the Canon that states him wrong.
"Cell: I'm going to finish you now."
Chapter # please
And yet here you are saying that I hate DBZ when you haven't even read it? Unbelieveable. did Phenomenol recruit you from another board to troll here as well?
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDGohan having KI control doesn't change the fact that if Cell was telling the truth then the both of them were releasing enough energy to destroy the solar system each.
"The unleashing of not only his, but gohan's energy should have done more damage to the earth than the crater it created. I mean that was enough energy to destroy two solar system's right? and yet when it was poured out .. wher'd all that energy go?"Gohan has KI control, like all other DBZ char's.
And yet there was only minimal damage from the two clashing waves of "solar system busters"
So him having control doesn't change the aomout of energy that was being poured out.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDThat's your retort? You say I hate DBZ and that I have no argument... yet you haven't proven a thing.
"Can't prove a negative. default is he wasn't telling the truth due to his past lies."You just Hate DBZ's power, you have NO argument, infact you got this from Mike.
"Gohan has ki control"
Which I'm sure Cell was more than happy to use himself, despite trying to blow up the planet earlier... Oh that's right, logic is geting in your way so you resort to "You are a dbz hater!" 🙄
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDReported for bashing and trolling.
LOL, you just talk, & LIE about reading Bastrad!!.You have no argument. I had to even explain to you what was going on in the scan you posted.
I never said Fallen Uriel Augoeides form was small.
Read my post before you post Endless LIES 😆
You don't read Bastrad!! STOP LYING!
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The claims about the Odin fight were stated in narration, by the omniscient narrator, and confirmed by tons of characters throughout the universe. That's completely different from one character (who is known to overestimate himself) bluffing about his power, yet never demonstrating it.How many times do I need to post this?
This is the result of Cell's "solar - system destroying attack"
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8497/cellsolarsystembluff6ry4.gif
Anyone who thinks this was actually enough power to destroy the solar system is completely delusional.
Lets reveiw shall we?
this is the sizes of the planets somewhat to scale. This is not including the distance between them.
And this is with Sol, the sun.
all that energy to destroy two solar systems and you'd never see it on this scale.
It's not my own theory, it is what is clearly shown in the episode, which is the very definition of canon. Tenchi going to the hyperdimension that second time didn't affect the plot at all, since he was back and just fine in the very next scene. FACT: The blast never hit him. FACT: 3 and 2 LHWs have blocked much stronger forces than that in the past. FACT: It takes twice as much energy to summon one additional LHW. FACT: Tenchi had never summoned 6 LHWs before and was straining to do so before the blast even reached him. These are all canon facts.
WRONG! Why the hell do you think Noike (Girl Kagato) at the time summoned the Chobimmaru cannon?? Cause she knew Tenchi would put himself at risk and the ENERGY FROM THE BLAST CAUSED HIM TO GO BACK IN TIME!! (he was HIT) Your ass is going against canon by using YOUR OWN INTERPREATION when mine are facts! Tenchi had NO problem handling the LHW power because TENCHI SUMMONED THE LHW very easily, TENCHI had NO trouble at all until the blast came into contact with him, then we see Tenchi struggling and when the blast disappears TENCHI is also gone beause the Chobimaru cannon (Chobimaru was designed to be able to stand up to Juraian ships)!! sent him back in time. You'll notice that Jurai did consider the ship (Chobimaru) a big threat to them, which is why they've got some control over it with Seto-sama adopting Misao and Misao being made the captain of the ship . LHW never have blocked Stronger attacks than the Chobimaru (couldn't even block the Chobimaru) that is BULL@#$%, Hell Kagato's ship the Souja OVERPOWERED LHW power!!! You have failed, again.
Again, wrong. They were sucked into the black hole, and as soon as they passed the event horizon, time dilation froze them in place, but Tenchi's LHWs activated and he was able to move. Dr. Clay didn't make his statement until after the energy was already escaping the black hole.
You FAIL, Dr. Clay states that the Gravity's constant of space is changing while they are in the Black Hole!!! And you continue to ignore canon.
Where did that huge chunk of the moon go? .
IT WAS BLOWN INTO TINY PIECES, Jesus it's not that hard Mike! You can constantly see the chunks flying behind Z while talking, you can even see the chunks in Washu's screen. Stop LYING.
He never sensed the ki of New Namek from Earth, so therefore your statement is completely unsupported.
You did it again you, you tried to change up! I said he TELEPORTED TO KING KAI'S PLANET (WHICH IS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION) FROM EARTH EASILY!!! He went to kaio's for directions. I am convinced that you do drugs!
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The claims about the Odin fight were stated in narration, by the omniscient narrator, and confirmed by tons of characters throughout the universe. That's completely different from one character (who is known to overestimate himself) bluffing about his power, yet never demonstrating it.How many times do I need to post this?
This is the result of Cell's "solar - system destroying attack"
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8497/cellsolarsystembluff6ry4.gif
Anyone who thinks this was actually enough power to destroy the solar system is completely delusional.
Wrong, because the CANON AUTHOR (AKIRA TORIYAMA) WHO WROTE IN THE DIALOUGE FOR CELL THINKS HE CAN DESTROY A SOLAR SYSTEM!! So your saying the author is delusional. 🙄 Your point is Bullocks as usual!
Also Mike you are another HYPOCRITE!!! I can get many of your posts CONTRADICTING the one you just postd..MR "VISUALS OVERRIDE DIALOUGE." 🙄
And Whitebeard, you're just using appeal to motive fallacies, by accusing anyone who doesn't buy your ridiculous hyperbole claims of hating DBZ.
That's a dishonest debating tactic, but when can I expect from a Phenomenalt?
Cell bluffing and hyperboles:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9660/cellboastingsc6.gif - "I wouldn't lose to anyone"
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1095/celldiesba8.gif - "I can't die (even as he was dying)"
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3959/cellfoolishoo8.gif - overconfidence (he attacks Gohan just to get him angry because he's sure he can win anyway)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2839/cellorigin5yo5.gif - "I will be the most powerful being imaginable!"
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7075/cellselfdestructev2.gif - "I'm going to self - destruct and destroy the earth and you can't stop me!"
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3946/gokuit2kg4.gif - "I won't let you escape!"
etc.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
LOL, you just talk, & LIE about reading Bastrad!!.You have no argument. I had to even explain to you what was going on in the scan you posted.
I never said Fallen Uriel Augoeides form was small.
Read my post before you post Endless LIES 😆
You don't read Bastrad!! STOP LYING!
No actual arguments here I see.
Clear evidence that DS can destroy a galaxy.
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Originally posted by Phenomenol
[B]WRONG! Why the hell do you think Noike (Girl Kagato) at the time summoned the Chobimmaru cannon?? Cause she knew Tenchi would put himself at risk and the ENERGY FROM THE BLAST CAUSED HIM TO GO BACK IN TIME!! (he was HIT)
No, because he was sent through the hyperdimension due to the strain of summoning 6 LHWs, which he had never done before. You are simply making theories up out of your ass now.
Your ass is going against canon by using YOUR OWN INTERPREATION when mine are facts! Tenchi had NO problem handling the LHW power because TENCHI SUMMONED THE LHW very easily
Watch it again, he was clearly straining from the power of summoning 6.
TENCHI had NO trouble at all until the blast came into contact with him, then we see Tenchi struggling and when the blast disappears TENCHI is also gone beause the Chobimaru cannon (Chobimaru was designed to be able to stand up to Juraian ships)!! sent him back in time. You'll notice that Jurai did consider the ship (Chobimaru) a big threat to them, which is why they've got some control over it with Seto-sama adopting Misao and Misao being made the captain of the ship.
The Chobimaru was weaker than a third generation Jurai ship, and third generation ships can't even summon LHWs without grouping up. The blast never even hit Tenchi in the first place.
LHW never have blocked Stronger attacks than the Chobimaru (couldn't even block the Chobimaru) that is BULL@#$%
They blocked the gravity of a black hole, Z when he had only 2 was unharmed by Tsunami and Tokimi's destruction of a large part of the galaxy.
Hell Kagato's ship the Souja OVERPOWERED LHW power!!! You have failed, again.
This just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. It was specifically stated that the reason the Souja destroyed the Ryu-oh was because it was vulnerable in the instant that they shifted the LHWs from defensive to offensive mode.
You FAIL, Dr. Clay states that the Gravity's constant of space is changing while they are in the Black Hole!!! And you continue to ignore canon.
You're the one ignoring canon. Tenchi's powers had already activated before he said that.
IT WAS BLOWN INTO TINY PIECES, Jesus it's not that hard Mike! You can constantly see the chunks flying behind Z while talking, you can even see the chunks in Washu's screen. Stop LYING.
You were specifically warned by the mods not to accuse people of lying, because it's all that you do. Those chunks were dislodged from the remaining segment of the moon. They were far too few and small to account for the huge mass of the moon that just vanished from space.
You did it again you, you tried to change up! I said he TELEPORTED TO KING KAI'S PLANET (WHICH IS IN ANOTHER DIMENSION) FROM EARTH EASILY!!! He went to kaio's for directions. I am convinced that you do drugs!
You failed to provide proof of your assertion. I asked you to prove he could sense New Namek from Earth.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
No actual arguments here I see.
Your reported for TROLLING!
You have yet to post scan of DS busting planets, like you said he did.
I have proven you wrong multiple time.
Your reported! troll.
Originally posted by Akuki
Clear evidence that DS can destroy a galaxy.
Thats a scan talking about the Judas Pain power we all know this.
DS, can not contorl the power of the Judas Pain, heck he does not even have the last Piece Beelzebub does.
