Originally posted by carver9FTL?Not a chance.They were moving at around 20x faster then a normal human.Now given thats faster then the likes of spiderman and such but nothing compared to something someone like superman can do.
Why isn't that hard to do? Evrything that you seen happened in five minutes... they had to been moving past the speed of light or above. The thing about this is that they show them moving at super speed the entire time... the battle never slowed. Now since you said thisz was easy to do "prove it", show me a character doing something similar. The only fight that comes to mind is the flash and zoom fight and during that entire fight everyone appeared as a statue including the entire jla team. Then when vegeta was revived he looked at the fight from a distance and goku and frieza was fighting at ridiculous speeds.So prove your claim if it is something that is normal or give goku his props and stop down playing the character.
Originally posted by carver9Carver you don't actually know how fast lightspeed is do you?
Why isn't that hard to do? Evrything that you seen happened in five minutes... they had to been moving past the speed of light or above. The thing about this is that they show them moving at super speed the entire time... the battle never slowed. Now since you said thisz was easy to do "prove it", show me a character doing something similar. The only fight that comes to mind is the flash and zoom fight and during that entire fight everyone appeared as a statue including the entire jla team. Then when vegeta was revived he looked at the fight from a distance and goku and frieza was fighting at ridiculous speeds.So prove your claim if it is something that is normal or give goku his props and stop down playing the character.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Having 1 ton strength on its own is probably more like on the mid-high end of Elite Street than Low Meta.Given how insanely fast C is it's something of a stretch to ever assume light speed travel. Going at less than a tenth of C could accomplish what you're describing.
So unless it's stated they're traveling at or near light speed we should assume they aren't.
But you have claimed numerous of times that wonder woman can "fight" at light speed but she doesn't have one showing during combat that proves this.
You. use the argument of what she reacted to and if that's the case... goku during the begining of dbz is fastervthan light.
Originally posted by carver9
But you have claimed numerous of times that wonder woman can't "fight" at light speed but she doesn't have one showing during combat that proves this.You. use the argument of what she reacted to and if that's the case... goku during the begining of dbz is fastervthan light.
What feat at the beginning of DBZ makes him faster than light?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've never said Wonder Woman couldn't fight at light speed.What feat at the beginning of DBZ makes him faster than light?
One example is dodging the kamehameha wave... a blast that has hit the moon instantly. Dodging the special beam canon point blank range that has hit the moon almost instantly. Slappiong these same blast out of the air with ease or just plain out beating these blastvto their target.
Originally posted by carver9
One example is dodging the kamehameha wave... a blast that has hit the moon instantly. Dodging the special beam canon point blank range that has hit the moon almost instantly. Slappiong these same blast out of the air with ease or just plain out beating these blastvto their target.
heat vision is lightspeed?
On the same note, Carver, can you prove that a Kamehameha wave is lightspeed? I still contend that the insta-moon-busting via Kamehameha wave is just a simple time-amp... why would someone wanna wait 5 minutes or so watching a blast travel to the moon? The fact that the kamehameha wave doesn't reach targets that quickly on any other occassions is proof of it's lack of ftl travel speed.
Originally posted by carver9TWO THINGS.
One example is dodging the kamehameha wave... a blast that has hit the moon instantly. Dodging the special beam canon point blank range that has hit the moon almost instantly. Slappiong these same blast out of the air with ease or just plain out beating these blastvto their target.
No timeframe was implied with the moon being destroyed, ever.
AND.
Special Beam Cannon never destroyed the moon, that was the Masenko Ha.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Deathstroke dodged Superman's heat vision. Does Deathstroke have lightspeed combat speed?
Aahhh... you are doing the same thing that you asked me to stop doing... using deathstroke as an example... lol. Deathstroke never dodged heat vision in the fashion that dbz characters dodge blast. Some of you all are very biased... two weeks ago you all post scans of wonder woman tagging flash and I show death stroke and night wing doing the same thing and you say "carver... stop trolling and downplaying the feat" but when you do it its ok.
Wow
Originally posted by carver9
Aahhh... you are doing the same thing that you asked me to stop doing... using deathstroke as an example... lol. Deathstroke never dodged heat vision in the fashion that dbz characters dodge blast. Some of you all are very biased... two weeks ago you all post scans of wonder woman tagging flash and I show death stroke and night wing doing the same thing and you say "carver... stop trolling and downplaying the feat" but when you do it its ok.Wow
Not the same thing. When a character has a history of superspeed feats, wonder woman tagging flash is impressive because she has said feats, and it's in her powerset.
nightwing/deathstroke aren't the same.
Originally posted by NemeBroGohan never destroyed the moon....roshi destroyed it then I believe it was wished back.Then piccolo destroyed it with a random blast.
TWO THINGS.No timeframe was implied with the moon being destroyed, ever.
AND.
Special Beam Cannon never destroyed the moon, that was the Masenko Ha.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Not the same thing. When a character has a history of superspeed feats, wonder woman tagging flash is impressive because she has said feats, and it's in her powerset.nightwing/deathstroke aren't the same.
Just like dbz characters have. A history of slapping blasts out of the air that has made it out of orbit instantly and they do it with ease along with dodging these blast with ease.
By the way... deathstroke does have a history of tagging the flashes... he has been doing it since his creation and have been doing it far better than wonder woman.
Originally posted by carver9
Just like dbz characters have. A history of slapping blasts out of the air that has made it out of orbit instantly and they do it with ease along with dodging these blast with ease.By the way... deathstroke does have a history of tagging the flashes... he has been doing it since his creation and have been doing it far better than wonder woman.
i don't know about dbz, by my own admission.
Not really. Her speed feats are far superior to his, so a couple of flash tags isn't much compared to the ocean of feats she has that are far superior (including her flash tags).
Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't know about dbz, by my own admission.Not really. Her speed feats are far superior to his, so a couple of flash tags isn't much compared to the ocean of feats she has that are far superior (including her flash tags).
But if you look at the way slade fight against the flashes... it is far more impressive. We have a blitzing flash moving at super speed and slade stabs him before the flash can even land a lick. Then we have slade blasting wally with his power pole... wally then gets up and tries to blitz slade end with slade tripping him up and then tying him up. Then we have kid flash and slade fighting and slade is going h2h with him (something wonder woman has never done) ending with slade koing kid flash with a kick. On wonder woman side... she usually gets blitzed to sleep and then she land a lick. Slade showings are much more impressive.
Originally posted by carver9
But if you look at the way slade fight against the flashes... it is far more impressive. We have a blitzing flash moving at super speed and slade stabs him before the flash can even land a lick. Then we have slade blasting wally with his power pole... wally then gets up and tries to blitz slade end with slade tripping him up and then tying him up. Then we have kid flash and slade fighting and slade is going h2h with him (something wonder woman has never done) ending with slade koing kid flash with a kick. On wonder woman side... she usually gets blitzed to sleep and then she land a lick. Slade showings are much more impressive.
he preps most of the time. diana doesn't. and you're cherry picking yet again.