Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Ok, I know way more about Fist than you'll ever know. I have forgotten more about Fist than you'll ever know or remember so I'm going to break down Kenshiro and Hokuto Shinken for you soon.Neither of them can "see" where pressure points are they just know where they are after studying pressure points. Ken can not look at someone with a foreign arrangement of pressure points and say "Hey I can see exactly where your pressure points are.
If you're saying what it takes to make someone's body explode is strength or whatever then it takes very little strength most of the time and the main thing required is knowledge of pressure points and control over one's touki.
So you want me to show you Hulk doing something that doesn't exist in his universe? I'm pretty sure Hulk can poke a hole in someone. Shows how little you know about HSK techniques though since only a rare few of them involve puncturing the skin. You're basically asking me to show you Hulk using HSK which is just stupid. Show me Ken absorbing Gamma Radiation or thunderclapping or some other stuff Hulk does.
Then who are you talking about? Show me this villain.
Good, you've seen the videos on youtube displaying his strength feats. In all honesty he dented the tank, he didn't destroy it as in break it into pieces. Can you even explain to me the source of his incredible strength? What specifically allows him to use such strength?
There is nothing he can do to Vision or Ghost Rider and possibly other people in the Meta list as well. He's faced Super Humans in the form of his brothers, Hokuto Ryuken line and the Nanto Seiken Masters along with filler villains but he has yet to face anyone like Rider or Vision. Pretty sure Storm can beat him too provided she stays out of his range.
Not everyone, but a lot on the list. Let's not forget that he doesn't have what it takes to beat or even hurt all of these metas.
I agree 100% about you knowing more about Ken than I do. I have no doubts about that but I think you are underating him a bit.
Ghost Rider, I agree, he can't kill him but Ghost Rider has been koed before and again, Ken has the punching power to do it. Ken could easily hit Ghost Rider with a 100 of his well placed licks before he even realized he was in a fight and again, Ken strength is so enormous that he could touch a sky scraper building and make it crumble. A hundred of those kind of licks would rock Ghost Rider and GR wouldn't have the chance of even forming a defense around this attack or even attacking himself. Then let's not even think about the fact that Ghost Rider doesn't eveen use the full potential of his power, let alone half of it.
Wow... so you think I know about his strength feats from a vid? Naah, there are plenty of more strength feats that I didn't mention. He is well above high class 100 and like I said before, we really haven't seen any type of cap on his strength yet... especially when he zones out and start flying and shooting blast (ala, dbz).
Vision would get blitzed as well and straight up punched through or having his limbs get torn off before he mustered up the chance to go intangible. You haven't told me anything that suggest that Ken can't beat all of the high metas... he is above them. Hulk, Black Bolt, Black Adam, Blue Marvel, etc... can't do anything to vison or Ghost Rider but they are still above that tier.
Name the people he can't beat and prove to me tha they can tank Kens best punches and a hundred of them without passing out due to blunt force trama.