Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Couple things on the DBZ argument:

1) Try to keep it clean ya'll.

2). The video does seem to depict that Broly took out a "galaxy" in a matter of seconds, but it also appears that he did not destroy each planet in it's totality so much as wreck the surface of a countless number of planets in moments. Either way you slice it, I'd say that's impressive and High Herald at the very least for sheer area of effect.

3). That video clip also had the part where Elder Kai states Kid Buu was Buu's strongest form and that absorbing the goodness of the Kai's had weakened him (as I'd argued all along).

Oh, and update coming soon.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Couple things on the DBZ argument:

1) Try to keep it clean ya'll.

2). The video does seem to depict that Broly took out a "galaxy" in a matter of seconds, but it also appears that he did not destroy each planet in it's totality so much as wreck the surface of a countless number of planets in moments. Either way you slice it, I'd say that's impressive and High Herald at the very least for sheer area of effect.

3). That video clip also had the part where Elder Kai states Kid Buu was Buu's strongest form and that absorbing the goodness of the Kai's had weakened him (as I'd argued all along).

My bad illa, I agree about the civil thing.

As to your second comment, what part showed that he didnt destroy all of the planets. Also, high herald? Someone that can destroy a Galaxy should be far above high herald and then he was weakened while doing this due to the head band that his father put on him. And what high herald has any kind of feats of destroying galaxies and tanking high 100 ton punches from numerous of fighters without even feeling it and also standing in a nuke with a smile on his face.

I agree about Kid buu, I consider him the most powerful but some people arguments about Super Buu being more powerful is understandable as well.

Originally posted by carver9
My bad illa, I agree about the civil thing.

As to your second comment, what part showed that he didnt destroy all of the planets.

Originally posted by carver9
My bad illa, I agree about the civil thing.

As to your second comment, what part showed that he didnt destroy all of the planets. Also, high herald? Someone that can destroy a Galaxy should be far above high herald and then he was weakened while doing this due to the head band that his father put on him. And what high herald has any kind of feats of destroying galaxies and tanking high 100 ton punches from numerous of fighters without even feeling it and also standing in a nuke with a smile on his face.

Its the galaxy thing that puts him over the others are meh in comparison

Originally posted by Omega Vision
For one thing Goku actually landed on a planet within the galaxy that appeared to have undergone a nuclear war but nothing more than that.

It undergone a nuclear war because brolly attacked it. That was a different Galaxy. King Ki even said that if Goku didnt help Broly would destroy his Galaxy.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I agree the whole galaxy blast makes him higher, but destroying planets isnt above high herald, neither is taking a nuke, or taking other class 100 punches.

Its the galaxy thing that puts him over the others are meh in comparison

I edited my post... to my knowledge Surfer only have the feats of destroying planets in the high herald tier but frieza used less than 1% of his power and destroyed a planet and that is something that I cant see any high herald doing and Broly>>>>>>>>>>>>Frieza.

Tanking 100 ton punches with a smile, I have never seen this from anyone. Lets put it like this, DC agreed that Super Saiyan Goku is>>>>Superman and Super Saiyan Goku one shotted Supes. That same punch that was used against Supes at a higher level vs Broly didnt even faze him, he smiled.

Superman and Goku never actually fought. So it doesnt really matter what some editor or something said.

I can say one of my characters is better then one character, and then say hes weaker then another but if his own comics prove otherwise and they havnt foguht it doesnt matter.

Also Beta Ray bill and Gladiator have both destroyed planets. So has Terrax (not sure if hes high herald but it shows that heralds can)

Originally posted by carver9
And how is Super Saiyan Goku a high herald when we have a showing of him screaming and his screamed stopped an erupting volcanoe? We also have Goku in a 5 minute fight making a 10 issue comic and lets not include his strength. This is the same Goku that had a planet destroying blast the size of the statue of liberty thrown at him by frieza and Goku stopped it with his hands and punched it out of space into another planet.

Frieza is above high herald. Again, I cant picture any high herald OR Thanos destroying a planet with LESS THAN 1% of their power. Not 1% but less than 1%.

The crazy thing about it is frieza waved his hand and split the planet namek in half. WTF

Originally posted by carver9
frieza used less than 1% of his power and destroyed a planet

Originally posted by jalek moye
Superman and Goku never actually fought. So it doesnt really matter what some editor or something said.

I can say one of my characters is better then one character, and then say hes weaker then another but if his own comics prove otherwise and they havnt foguht it doesnt matter.

Also Beta Ray bill and Gladiator have both destroyed planets. So has Terrax (not sure if hes high herald but it shows that heralds can)

Thats not what I'm trying to tell you. Everything that is written in a Wizard magazine have to be approved by the writer/industry before being shown to the world or it would be copy writing which would lead to a law suit. Wizard have a contract with every comic industry but they cannot just throw stories to the world unless further approved by the company or again, that would be against the characters and it could lead to a law suit. The Goku vs Superman fight is just as legit as Darkseid fighting Superman since again, DC thought of Super Saiyan Goku>>>>>Superman.

As for the planet destroying, yes, I agree, the people that you listed have destroyed a planet but did they use less than 1% of their power to do this, no. Gladiator had to beat on the planet and Beta ray bill along with Terrax destroyed a planetoid. Planet Vegeta was twice the size of earth and it had 10 times earths Gravity, and again, frieza destroyed it with one finger and use less than 1% of his power. Hell, frieza waved his hand and split planet Namek in half. All of this is above high herald.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated that Broly destroyed the Galaxy and Broly wasnt in the same Galaxy that he destroyed, he was in Goku's Territory, Gokus Galaxy, that is why Goku fought him, so that the same thing wouldnt have happened.

Now prove to us that Brolly shot more than one blast to destroy that Galaxy since that is what you are saying.

You are the one that suck at debating when it comes to anime character. At first you tried to low ball the feat by saying he destroyed the life in that Galaxy and THEN since that was proven wrong you tried to low ball the feat again by saying he shot more than one blast.

Stay with your Marvel and DC character, you are good at that but anime, its not for you.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ I'm pretty sure Broly wiped out life in the galaxy, he didn't destroy it.

If someone effortlessly destroyed a city what tier are they?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
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Originally posted by Parmaniac
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Frieza was in his first form when he destroyed planet Vegeta. Frieza had numerous of transformations after this. Frieza then transform to his final form (after the big head form) and fight Goku and then states and proves that during his final transformation he was fighting Goku with 1% of his power. Now remember, the form that destroy planet Vegeta is<<<<<<<the frieza that Goku fought that was only using 1% of his power. Then frieza boosted his power up to 50% and destroyed Goku.

So again, the frieza that first fought Goku was using 1% of his final form power. The frieza that was using 1% of his power is>>>>>>>>the frieza that destroyed planet Vegeta with just one finger.

You get it. 🙄

Originally posted by Black bolt z
There really is no indication to how many blasts were used.And OV has a point that there was still things left there. Still not exactly a bad feat.

If someone effortlessly destroyed a city what tier are they?

I know so you really cant say he used more than one blast since it really wasnt shown and if he did use more than one blast that would make his reflexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats not what I'm trying to tell you. Everything that is written in a Wizard magazine have to be approved by the writer/industry before being shown to the world or it would be copy writing which would lead to a law suit. Wizard have a contract with every comic industry but they cannot just throw stories to the world unless further approved by the company or again, that would be against the characters and it could lead to a law suit. The Goku vs Superman fight is just as legit as Darkseid fighting Superman since again, DC thought of Super Saiyan Goku>>>>>Superman.

As for the planet destroying, yes, I agree, the people that you listed have destroyed a planet but did they use less than 1% of their power to do this, no. Gladiator had to beat on the planet and Beta ray bill along with Terrax destroyed a planetoid. Planet Vegeta was twice the size of earth and it had 10 times earths Gravity, and again, frieza destroyed it with one finger and use less than 1% of his power. Hell, frieza waved his hand and split planet Namek in half. All of this is above high herald.

Not really, wizard writing a short story of Goku beating Superman isn't canon so it doesnt matter. Just like a what if where Punisher killed all of the marvel universe isn't canon so it doesnt count as a feat. It also isnt any more valid then Greg Pak writing a story of Hulk beating galactus but it not actually beign acomic.

I named those characters because you said that no one but surfer has busted planets.

Destroying Galaxies is a fine feat, but I'd like to insist in the fact that the most important requirement to be in high in tiers its versatility, galaxy scope is where most herald levelers work. That's the only reason I rate DB characters as heralds instead of trans.

@Carver: I said high 100 tonners move planets. Mon-El and SBP are examples, so carrying 300 tons is nowhere near "high 100 tonners", I was just setting the record straight.

Originally posted by carver9
Frieza was in his first form when he destroyed planet Vegeta. Frieza had numerous of transformations after this. Frieza then transform to his final form (after the big head form) and fight Goku and then states and proves that during his final transformation he was fighting Goku with 1% of his power. Now remember, the form that destroy planet Vegeta is<<<<<<<the frieza that Goku fought that was only using 1% of his power. Then frieza boosted his power up to 50% and destroyed Goku.

So again, the frieza that first fought Goku was using 1% of his final form power. The frieza that was using 1% of his power is>>>>>>>>the frieza that destroyed planet Vegeta with just one finger.

You get it. 🙄

IIRC freiza was in space above planet vegeta and a bunch of sayians were watching him.Freiza then(for reasons I forget)started making a giant ball of energy while laughing hysterically then after about a minute of charging threw it down and blew it up.

@Black bolt.

About the city level blast.

Nappa blast>>this blast and Thor was in bad shape afterwards and lets not forget, Thor is a high herald. Lets also not forget that Nappa atomic bomb blast, during the time he used it, he wasnt even using a percentage of his power

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Kang%20the%20Conqueror/ConquersEarth9.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/HoloblastWMThor.jpg

That blast wasn't meant to destroy the buildings though, it could've been much stronger than it would seem by collateral damage.