Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by Bentley
Simon felt the impact and judged it would've destroyed the buildings, its clear considering how durable Simon is and how little the buildings were damaged, with that, its safe to say the blast was a selective one not a "destroy everything" one. Again, you just cannot compare with Nappa's blast.

Nova shielded himself, but those are herald level powers, which means a herald can hang with those levels of destructive outputs.

Surfer has tanked planet destroying blasts to no ill effect:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/568/korvacagsurferpn1.jpg

So again, you are accepting hyperbole statements but discrediting DBZ statements. Akira along with Cell and the Z fighters stated that Cell blast had enough destructive power to destroy a solar system. You all deny that because it didnt happen, the solar system didnt get destroyed because gohun stopped it but yet, again you are posting hyperbole statements.

You cant believe one without believing the other.

Originally posted by carver9
So again, you are accepting hyperbole statements but discrediting DBZ statements. Akira along with Cell and the Z fighters stated that Cell blast had enough destructive power to destroy a solar system. You all deny that because it didnt happen, the solar system didnt get destroyed because gohun stopped it but yet, again you are posting hyperbole statements.

You cant believe one without believing the other.

Umm, Carver, really... Have I denied something about DB claiming hyperbole? You must be thinking of someone else.

Originally posted by Bentley
Umm, Carver, really... Have I denied something about DB claiming hyperbole? You must be thinking of someone else.

Naah, I promise it was you. Almost all Hyperbole statements, I agree with, I even agree with you saying Surfer can tank a planet destroying blast because, well, its Surfer (I dont think that blast was planet destroying though) but I have seen you deny a lot of on panel showings because when it is regarding statements.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I promise it was you. Almost all Hyperbole statements, I agree with, I even agree with you saying Surfer can tank a planet destroying blast because, well, its Surfer (I dont think that blast was planet destroying though) but I have seen you deny a lot of on panel showings because when it is regarding statements.

Surely not DB ones.

Maybe it was Void stalemating Galactus 😄

Originally posted by carver9
This is much bigger than what you are making it and the city was whipped clean, it look desert like.

This is much more than a city level blast. Look at how it look outside of earth. That blast alone would mess a high herald up and again, Nappa wasnt even trying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Would mess up a high herald?Surfer has taken planet busting attacks with ease.

I agree, Surfer has taken it and I am pretty sure Thanos has taken on as well but that blast that you see not only destroyed a planet but it destroyed the moons around it. That was much more than just a planet destroying attack.

I never said that it would drop Thanos but it would cause some harm.

By the way, all high heralds havent tanked planet destroying blast.

I also nominate Hatchyack for High Herald, btw.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I also nominate Hatchyack for High Herald, btw.

Hatchyach High Herald? Why?

I refer to Nova's blocking a star-system-destroying-blast to imply that its easier to destroy a galaxy than to destroy an herald character. Keeping that in mind, talking about the collateral damage and the amount of destruction a blast makes tells you very little about combat capabilities in certain matchups.

Originally posted by carver9
Hatchyach High Herald? Why?

Well, he was able to simultaneously fend of SSJ2 Goku, Trunks, Gohan and Vegeta plus Piccolo in h2h, and he's at least in Goku's class in energy output, so I'd put him there personally, though I wouldn't put him above, say, Silver Surfer.

Broly as well, if not at Elite Herald.

Originally posted by Bentley
I refer to Nova's blocking a star-system-destroying-blast to imply that its easier to destroy a galaxy than to destroy an herald character. Keeping that in mind, talking about the collateral damage and the amount of destruction a blast makes tells you very little about combat capabilities in certain matchups.

Nova shielded himself from that attack, nothing more, nothing less and you cant use one feat that a character has done and give it to the rest of the characters in that tier. Nova wouldnt tank a star-system-destroying blast without some kind of shielding or aid from world mind.

And please tell me you are not trying to imply that Nova can beat or even give Broly a fight because he cant. He doesnt stand a chance.

And output of power means a lot when it comes to ranking. That is why Odin is where he is at, because he annihilated a Galaxy during one of his fights.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Well, he was able to simultaneously fend of SSJ2 Goku, Trunks, Gohan and Vegeta plus Piccolo in h2h, and he's at least in Goku's class in energy output, so I'd put him there personally, though I wouldn't put him above, say, Silver Surfer.

Broly as well, if not at Elite Herald.

OMG, Surfer is Peak Herald, the highest of the highest. If anyone can beat Surfer they are transtier even though I think Hatchyach is higher than that.

Broly destroyed a Galaxy, this is a feat that no herald has done and Broly did this while weakened. That is a skyfather feat so why is he high herald?

Hey Illa, can you tell me the name of the movie with Hatchyach in it?

Originally posted by carver9
OMG, Surfer is Peak Herald, the highest of the highest. If anyone can beat Surfer they are transtier even though I think Hatchyach is higher than that.

Broly destroyed a Galaxy, this is a feat that no herald has done and Broly did this while weakened. That is a skyfather feat so why is he high herald?

I'd say high to Elite (moreso Elite in Broly's case than Hatchyack) because though Broly did destroy a galaxy I still wouldn't put him in a class with the likes of Odin, and I don't necessarily find him to be more powerful than Surfer. Sure, he's insanely destructive (as is Kid Buu), but to me he's in the same boat as Superman. That boat being sure Supes is high herald but he doesn't have the range of abilities that a Thor, Genis, or Surfer do, so he's not quite there even if he could win a fight. He's more or less pretty one dimensional, though that dimension is highly potent.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey Illa, can you tell me the name of the movie with Hatchyach in it?

He was in Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans from '03.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey Illa, can you tell me the name of the movie with Hatchyach in it?

Carver, I'll just address the points I care to discuss:

Originally posted by carver9
Broly destroyed a Galaxy, this is a feat that no herald has done and Broly did this while weakened. That is a skyfather feat so why is he high herald?

Lack of versatility for one.

Originally posted by carver9
Nova shielded himself from that attack, nothing more, nothing less and you cant use one feat that a character has done and give it to the rest of the characters in that tier. Nova wouldnt tank a star-system-destroying blast without some kind of shielding or aid from world mind.

Krillin threw a rock at Goku when he was turned into a super saiyan and he hurt him, most of DB character's durability is active, just as shielding is for Nova.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Who is Hatchyach?

Hatchyack is a character from a DBZ OVA (kinda like Jenemba). He was created via technology and a manifestation of hateful spirit towards Saiyins. Dude was hardcore. It took the same attack that killed Broly (3 Kamehamehas) plus Vegeta's Galactic Gun to kill him.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hatchyack is a character from a DBZ OVA (kinda like Jenemba). He was created via technology and a manifestation of hateful spirit towards Saiyins. Dude was hardcore. It took the same attack that killed Broly (3 Kamehamehas) plus Vegeta's Galactic Gun to kill him.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/Hatchyack/Sword_of_Geddon/HatchyackFormTwo.jpg
And what movie did he appear in?

Also what is dragonball AF?