Originally posted by carver9Who on this list can beat Nappa? Who on this list have the amount of power out put or speed that nappa has? Who on this list can defeat an entire army like Nappa did without breaking a sweat or getting touched?
Originally posted by Omega VisionI'd say mandarin can beat him but miss martian wouldn't stomp him.Other then that that seems about right.
The ones in bold I know can beat Nappa, the ones bolded and underlined stomp Nappa.
"Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, [b]Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx" [/B]
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The ones in bold I know can beat Nappa, the ones bolded and underlined stomp Nappa.
"Abomination, Adam Strange, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, [b]Batman 1 Million, Battalion (Jackson King), Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Death's Head II, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Havok, Hellstrike, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Jenny Sparks, Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Mercer Drake, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Ocean Master, Osiris, Pitt, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Radioactive Man, Sand, Sasquatch, Shassa, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Supernova, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx" [/B]
What is the strongest attack any of the people that you have named took? I cant recall any of them surviving an attack like the one Nappa used.
Now if you use mind attacks, yes, I agree with that but that still does not give a reason to put Nappa above high meta because mind tricks can even defeat some high heralds given the chance.
Originally posted by carver9
Omega, that is a lame way for you to use someone from that tier beating Nappa. Ms. Martian would get messed up by Nappa finger blast in one panel and I am pretty sure he could pull his attack off first.
Also you lowballing Megan's HF and durability is disgusting.
Anyway I thought you were tired of talking about DBZ.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Surfer has cosmic awareness.So does thanos.Still not nearly to the degree of cosmic but still.Look at his bio.
I have seen Thanos bio and I know what I need to know about Thanos. I have NEVER seen Thanos use cosmic awareness during battle. Yes, I have seen Surfer use it but Thanos, no. Not saying that it is not there but can you show me him using it because I thought I knew of the character.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You think he can move faster than a psychic attack? Lol.Also you lowballing Megan's HF and durability is disgusting.
Anyway I thought you were tired of talking about DBZ.
Uumm, yeah, this is the same guy that dodged tien blast at point blank range. This is the same guy that dodge every bullet and missle that was shot at him by an entire army with ease.
I'm not low balling Megans HF, I just want you to show me her taking a blast like the one Nappa used.
Help me out here Omega.
Not denying you because majority of the time, you do know what you are talking about.
Let me see this feat.
Originally posted by carver9
Uumm, yeah, this is the same guy that dodged tien blast at point blank range. This is the same guy that dodge every bullet and missle that was shot at him by an entire army with ease.I'm not low balling Megans HF, I just want you to show me her taking a blast like the one Nappa used.
Help me out here Omega.
Not denying you because majority of the time, you do know what you are talking about.
Let me see this feat.
Here's a video of Kamikazes doing something similar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Kia79GyWU
You don't even need supersonic speed, just some skill and luck. Of course I'll grant Nappa supersonic speed anyway. Its still not fast enough to outpace a mental assault which is instantaneous.
She doesn't really have to tank the blast when she can phase through it.
Originally posted by carver9Or mabye he did get hit and he just tanked them....
Uumm, yeah, this is the same guy that dodged tien blast at point blank range. This is the same guy that dodge every bullet and missle that was shot at him by an entire army with ease.I'm not low balling Megans HF, I just want you to show me her taking a blast like the one Nappa used.
Help me out here Omega.
Not denying you because majority of the time, you do know what you are talking about.
Let me see this feat.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWell Nappa is faster than Mercenary Tao who was able to move faster than mach 14, so he actually is faster than the speed a coherent thought is formed by normal humans, which is in about 550 milliseconds, so it all depends on distance, and proven mental speeds of the characters.
You think he can move faster than a psychic attack? Lol.
Why are people starting to believe Carver's shit?
First of all, he uses the anime, which implies to me he does not actually read the manga, and the anime adds many scenes which did not exist in DB or DBZ manga, in other words canon.
Second of all, he is plain WRONG, he cannot actually quantify how fast any of the end-game DBZ characters are with the exception of SSJ Gotenks, and none of them come close to rivaling the FTL speeds of Surfer or Superman for instance. As for durability, we know they can tank a planetary explosion... Probably. No one has actually survived a direct planet destroying attack, Freeza came closest, though he was far outside the center of the explosion and only survived because of his body's unique biology, his species can survive any injury. It is how Cell was able to improve upon Piccolo's healing factor, with Freeza's ability to survive injury, he did not need to worry about internal organs or his brain being destyroyed. Oh, and we all forget how Kid Buu's attack, one that could only destroy a planet if you recall, although easily, was unable to be stopped by Goku and Vegeta while they were together, and had to instead retreat to another world to survive. So their durability is enough to tank some planet destroying attacks, but not all. As for physical strength, the last real strength feats I can recall (Other than the PIS 40 tons one) were Goku and Freeza being able to punt eachother through islands. impressive? Sure. Does it so much as rival Superman? Or even Wonderwoman? Thor? Juggernaut? No. And arguably, that was largely due to the speed of their attacks colliding.
As for Broly, do not want to go into him, far too inconsistent.
Anyway, based on what I know of Dark Schneider, I would support the vote for Skyfather, and put up Pyron from Darkstalker's name as well... Again.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Again he didn't dodge the bullets Matrix style, he maneuvered in between streams of bullets.Here's a video of Kamikazes doing something similar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Kia79GyWUYou don't even need supersonic speed, just some skill and luck. Of course I'll grant Nappa supersonic speed anyway. Its still not fast enough to outpace a mental assault which is instantaneous.
She doesn't really have to tank the blast when she can phase through it.
She isnt tanking this.
Originally posted by carver9Thats exactly it.You don't care what anyone says.And thats why its not worth debating with you.
She isnt tanking this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA0rawalYk
I dont care what anyone say.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well Nappa is faster than Mercenary Tao who was able to move faster than mach 14, so he actually is faster than the speed a coherent thought is formed by normal humans, which is in about 550 milliseconds, so it all depends on distance, and proven mental speeds of the characters.Why are people starting to believe Carver's shit?
First of all, he uses the anime, which implies to me he does not actually read the manga, and the anime adds many scenes which did not exist in DB or DBZ manga, in other words canon.
Second of all, he is plain WRONG, he cannot actually quantify how fast any of the end-game DBZ characters are with the exception of SSJ Gotenks, and none of them come close to rivaling the FTL speeds of Surfer or Superman for instance. As for durability, we know they can tank a planetary explosion... Probably. No one has actually survived a direct planet destroying attack, Freeza came closest, though he was far outside the center of the explosion and only survived because of his body's unique biology, his species can survive any injury. It is how Cell was able to improve upon Piccolo's healing factor, with Freeza's ability to survive injury, he did not need to worry about internal organs or his brain being destyroyed. Oh, and we all forget how Kid Buu's attack, one that could only destroy a planet if you recall, although easily, was unable to be stopped by Goku and Vegeta while they were together, and had to instead retreat to another world to survive. So their durability is enough to tank some planet destroying attacks, but not all. As for physical strength, the last real strength feats I can recall (Other than the PIS 40 tons one) were Goku and Freeza being able to punt eachother through islands. impressive? Sure. Does it so much as rival Superman? Or even Wonderwoman? Thor? Juggernaut? No. And arguably, that was largely due to the speed of their attacks colliding.
As for Broly, do not want to go into him, far too inconsistent.
Anyway, based on what I know of Dark Schneider, I would support the vote for Skyfather, and put up Pyron from Darkstalker's name as well... Again.
UUMMM, what are you talking about, if anyone believed me I wouldnt be here debating. I'm here trying to convince and some people have their own opinions.