Originally posted by Bardiel13
Actually, the reason I don't agree with gay parades is because I am not homophobic. The concept is fine, however most of them are nothing but a display of every reason why homophobes hate gays. It's supposed to preach tolerance and show that gays are people too, but it makes them look like people who are out for attention and want nothing more than to shock people. In order for gays to be given the right to marriage, they have to be taken seriously. How do you take a man that dresses up as a Vegas showgirl seriously?
Let me get this straight.
Gay parade is display of reasons why homophobes hate gays? With all due respect, that is rather ridiculous statement. Not to mention untrue.
Some gay men are camp, others are not. Some gay men like anal sex, others don't.
Some gay men dress like women, others dont.
In fact, there is a large number of gay men you wouldn't be able to tell are gay by looking or speaking to them.
Homophobes hate those gay men as much as they hate the extravagant, stereotypical mainstream TV ones.
For you to take gays seriously, they need to be hyper-masculine mimicing straight men.
In a society obsessed with being a masculine manliness and submissive femmininity, your answer should not suprise me at all.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Let me get this straight.Gay parade is display of reasons why homophobes hate gays? With all due respect, that is rather ridiculous statement. Not to mention untrue.
Some gay men are camp, others are not. Some gay men like anal sex, others don't.
Some gay men dress like women, others dont.In fact, there is a large number of gay men you wouldn't be able to tell are gay by looking or speaking to them.
Homophobes hate those gay men as much as they hate the extravagant, stereotypical mainstream TV ones.
I think what he was saying is the Gay parades end up being everything that homophobes hate.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think what he was saying is the Gay parades end up being everything that homophobes hate.
As I have just said above, homophobes hate gay men and women, regardless of what they act or look like.
It is highly unlikely that homophobes hate gays because they are dancing on the street half naked, once a year.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Let me get this straight.
Pun intended?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Some gay men like anal sex, others don't.
😕.....Then what exactly do they do for gratification?
And forgive the apparent ignorance of this question: But what's the 'point' of being gay if you're not gonna have anal with other men?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Homophobes hate those gay men as much as they hate the extravagant, stereotypical mainstream TV ones.
How do you know?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As I have just said above, homophobes hate gay men and women, regardless of what they act or look like.It is highly unlikely that homophobes hate gays because they are dancing on the street half naked, once a year.
I know for a fact that some of them do, but that is not the main reason.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As I have just said above, homophobes hate gay men and women, regardless of what they act or look like.It is highly unlikely that homophobes hate gays because they are dancing on the street half naked, once a year.
As much as I'd like to say everyone should express themselves openly and all that liberal stuff, I simply can't. Because, realistically speaking, we live in a society where people need to do certain things to get ahead in life. For instance, if you work in an office building, it is protocol that you wear a suit. If you are a man and you come to work one day in a speedo and kabuki make-up, chances are you will get fired. It doesn't matter if you feel most comfortable in a speedo and make-up, it makes more people around you uncomfortable.
I don't care what people do with their private lives. If they like to dress in the opposite sex's clothing, like it in the butt, or have a fetish for poop. Though it may strike me as odd, I'm not going to lynch them for being different.
With gay parades, they enforce the stereotype that gays are freaks who like to dance half naked and try to be as shocking as possible. Right in the street, even! These event are highly sexualized and suggestive. But, in society's eyes, that's alright, because they're gay and gays are naturally sexual devients and freaks, so let them express themsevles. If this were a parade with straight people with women running around topless and men thrusting their groins at the pedestrians, this would not fly.
You say, most homophobes hate gays because they simply like the same sex. That is not true at all. How do I know this? Becuase, me being a non-judging person have homophobic friends. Inevitably, we have little friendly debates about this topic. All of my friends told me what they didn't like most about homosexuals is that they were attention whores that liked to freak people out. They had no sense of romance, instead they go off to their gay orgies (which in fact is one of the reason why HIV is rampant in the gay community) and have meanling hedonistic sex. Of course, I told them this wasn't all true, that many gays have long-term and loving relationships with single individuals. One replied, "I believe you. Unfortuantely those aren't the gays I'm seeing."
Homosexuality, by definition, is the sexual attraction to the same gender. With gay parades, it's less about being homosexual and more about dancing in the street with a painted-on speedo, lip-synching to It's Raining Men. And anyone who is offended by such a sight, is obviously homophobic. Along with those of African descent, gays do a hefty job of reenforcing the stereotype that all homosexuals are screaming queens that like to dance on floats in parades, making suggestive thrusts at the crowd.
Originally posted by Creshosk
My problem with gay parades is there are no heterosexual parades... Where are the people flaunting their heterosexuality in the form of a parade?
That argument has already been put aside as stupid. Gay parades are supposed to preach tolerance towards homosexuals (although it has the exact opposite effect). If homosexuals were allowed to marry and considered everyday citizens, there wouldn't be need for any. What would be the point of a heterosexual parade? Lord knows, we straight people have it rough because of our orientation.
Originally posted by Bardiel13Naturally, as they do not want "equality" they want "special treatment" in the ruse of "tolerance".
That argument has already been put aside as stupid.
It's much like the reason my high chool wouldn't let there be a gay and lesbian club: They wouldn't allow any clubs based on sexuality.
Originally posted by Bardiel13And giving them special treatment is supposed to improve tolerance?
Gay parades are supposed to preach tolerance towards homosexuals (although it has the exact opposite effect). If homosexuals were allowed to marry and considered everyday citizens, there wouldn't be need for any. What would be the point of a heterosexual parade? Lord knows, we straight people have it rough because of our orientation.
Really this argument could be said for any parade, does closing down the streets and causing traffic jams help any cause? As for the parade that is only one aspect of that day, leading up to it there are many other events like education, fund raising and other events. Even in the parade itself there are a few flamboyant individuals but that doesn’t make up the majority of the parade but they are the ones that get all the media attention.
the catholic church has enough money to pay of the enitre third world debt of the world.
similar amounts of money in the combination of protestant churches. and yet what do the organisation use it for?
discriminatory lawsuits
hypocritical corporates
counteracting thinking{even on the government level} and awareness of things like contraception, aids campaigns, abortion, family planning, movements against child abuse, open minded philosophy, psychology and psychological cures, archeology, physics, liberal tv programming, etc etc etc
paying off israel to massacre palestinians
funding ethnic/relegious wars in already war torn african countries
funding christian music/movies/tv channels which preach more hate and ignorance/opening new churches/websites
well the list is endless.
not to mention after school jesus specials and bible thumping printers. plus the funding of CURING FACILITIES to exorcise the demons that turn a christian child into a homosexual/fornicater etc. and they say its their CHOICE TO enter.
surprising how the government doesnt take any legal actoin. oh yea, forgot, theyr mostly christian too.