Originally posted by AlfheimNo, you just always cheer for stuff you don't understand. Hence why I pointed that out.
Y-yeah so? Considering your always getting into agruments its not an illogical thing to think. Im telepathic so I would know you're best friends? 🤨
Originally posted by Creshosk
Explains quite a few things...
I agree...
I assume you mean my lack of calling him a moron and such?
We do that in private.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ontological argument.1) I define God to be X.
2) Since I can't conceive of X, X must not exist.
3) Therefore, God doesn't exist.Not very creative to define the way you perceived the definitions to be. Not even getting int other whole concept of the logical paradoxes not proving anything more than the language's limitation. Yes, I've encountered these "logical paradoxes". There was a thread not to long ago that discussed the paradox of omnipotence.
However simply because something is beyond your understanding does not mean that it does not exist. It might not exist, however it might exist differently than the way that you perceive it to be defined.
At any rate a "proof" is not evidence. If you'd like me to attempt to address each of your points individually you'll have to keep an open mind. There is nothing to be gained here. We have no evidence to his/her existence or nonexistence to assume either stance is illogical.
You didn't read my entire post, did you?
I was not arguing on lack of evidense alone. Lack of evidense is not proof of the negative, and I did not argue that.
Christianity, its mythos, its concepts, its teachings, and its idea of God pose to many logical paradoxes and problems.
Way too many.
You have not answered my question btw. How can one be happy in Heaven knowing that someone they love is suffering in Hell ? How do Heaven and Hell work ?
Creshock, please respond to my point addressed to yourself and other Christians/Muslims on this forum.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Think about it for a second:Many of the people who end up in Hell will have [b]relatives
in Heaven. How do you imagine anyone can truly be happy in Heaven knowing that thier mother, sister, brother, father, lover, son, daughter, uncle, aunt, best freind, etc. is suffering greatly elsewhere?It doesn't work. They cannot be happy if they truly loved thier loved ones who now suffer in Hell.
If God makes them forget, then he is hiding the Truth from them.
There are too many logical problems posed by Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.
Therefore, I repeat, that it is REASONABLE to conclude that there is no Christian Judeo or Muslim God in existance. [/B]
Originally posted by Bardock42
Gay people have the same rights.
No they don't. In United States, heterosexuals have the right to marry who they wish, as long as the partner agrees.
Homosexuals, in most US states, do not have the right to marry who they want. They can only marry someone of the opposite sex.
Originally posted by Goddess KaliYes, I did.
You didn't read my entire post, [b]did you?[/b]
Originally posted by Goddess KaliShall I explain the ontological argument? They way you percieve these things to be doesn't make them that way.
I was not arguing on lack of evidense alone. Lack of evidense is not proof of the negative, and I did not argue that.[b]Christianity
, its mythos, its concepts, its teachings, and its idea of God pose to many logical paradoxes and problems.[/b]
Originally posted by Goddess KaliNot a clue.
Way too many.You have not answered my question btw. How can one be happy in Heaven knowing that someone they love is suffering in Hell ? How do Heaven and Hell work ?
Originally posted by Goddess KaliI'm confused, why is this "And other Christians/Muslims" attached? Where did I ever claim to be a Christian or a Muslim?
Creshock, please respond to my point addressed to yourself and other Christians/Muslims on this forum.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes, I did.Shall I explain the ontological argument? They way you percieve these things to be doesn't make them that way.
Not a clue.
I'm confused, why is this "And other Christians/Muslims" attached? Where did I ever claim to be a Christian or a Muslim?
I thought you were arguing on defense of God's existance. I was mistaken, so I apologize.
The ontological argument applies to both Theism and Atheism, but I am sure you understand that already.
However, there is no need to prove a negative. I deny the existance of a Christian-Judeo-Muslim God due to:
1) Lack of evidense
2) contradiction to science
3) contradict of texts
4) logical paradoxes and problems posed
Therefore, I have every right to conclude that there is no Biblical or Quran God, because it is highly inprobable.
And I am not forcing my opinion/beleif on others. I am explaining why I beleive what I beleive. Whatever you beleive is up to you, but back up what you beleive.
Do not tell me a fairy tale (such as God, Santa Clause, tooth fairy), and then expect me to beleive you, without proving me evidense.
And btw...Creshock..you cannot prove Zeus doesn't exist either. Is it right to say Zeus doesn't exist ?
Originally posted by Goddess KaliOh Zeus exists... in various fictional mediums otherwise he's pretty much in the same boat as the Judaeo-Islamic-Christian God.
I thought you were arguing on defense of God's existance. I was mistaken, so I apologize.The ontological argument applies to both Theism [b]and
Atheism, but I am sure you understand that already.However, there is no need to prove a negative. I deny the existance of a Christian-Judeo-Muslim God due to:
1) Lack of evidense
2) contradiction to science
3) contradict of texts
4) logical paradoxes and problems posedTherefore, I have every right to conclude that there is no Biblical or Quran God, because it is highly inprobable.
And I am not forcing my opinion/beleif on others. I am explaining why I beleive what I beleive. Whatever you beleive is up to you, but back up what you beleive.
Do not tell me a fairy tale (such as God, Santa Clause, tooth fairy), and then expect me to beleive you, without proving me evidense.
And btw...Creshock..you cannot prove Zeus doesn't exist either. Is it right to say Zeus doesn't exist ? [/B]