First Blood

Started by Darth Sexy7 pages

It is clear that you have no understanding of what a straw man is and are attempting (and failing) to sound intelligent. Keep trying though, this is adorable.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Just out of curiosity.. where do you think those numbers came from?

What numbers? What on earth are you babbling about?

Originally posted by Illustrious
Does it look like I'm joking?

70.242.25.108 : ppp-70-242-25-108.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net
* Dave 70.242.25.108
* David 70.242.25.108

Busted?

How the hell would I know? I'm not the one that pulled these numbers... Not to mention I find it highly unlikely that I have the IP of another member, or much less the same IP daily, seeing as how I'm on dynamic cable. I guess being a debater has no bearing on one's ethernet knowledge.

So you just happen to have the same IP via dynamic cable as someone else who visited the forum and got banned the day you signed up?

Wow, that's one hell of a coincidence.

Please show me when I signed up to EOD and when "tdtd" got banned from EOD, since you claim it was on the same day. At the same time, I'm sure you (hopefully) understand that with a dynamic IP, it changes anywhere from 12-24 hours. Some of you guys should seriously do less preaching and definitely less detective work...Once again, if you're going to call me out on something, good for you. But I've proven on this forum, without a shadow of a doubt, that I am not who you say I am. If you don't want to believe it, I don't really care. I don't need arrogant pseudointellectuals trying to find out who I really am..

Not to point any fingers, DS, or start up an argument, but they do have some convincing evidence. And you do have a lot in common with Tdtd.

DS, wake up. Faunus is pointing out the fact that you joined KMC the same day tdtd was banned, in addition to having a sock at EoD after your initial account was banned for trolling.

Wow, please explain what it is I have in common with "tdtd"? Since everyone is a detective this week, I'd like to know.

Jewish college student with a perchant for trolling, bashing, and pseudologic debating who answers to variations of the name "David".

Really though, those are such common traits. Just like identical dynamic IPs.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Jewish college student with a perchant for trolling, bashing, and pseudologic debating who answers to variations of the name "David".

Spare with your rhetoric Janus. I haven't "trolled" on these forums, nor have I bashed anybody that didn't deserve it. If you want to call my arguments pseudological, so be it. I can just as easily say that you can preach "logic logic logic" all you want, but when it comes to debating objectively using that logic, you don't seem to have any clue as to how (you seem to have improved unlike some of the others). Your opinion is your opinion.

Really though, those are such common traits. Just like identical dynamic IPs. [/B]

I'm going to assume you don't have a clue as to what a dynamic IP is. It's very simple Janus. I am telling you I'm not who you think I am. Either prove it (omgz same ips!!), or let it go.

Spare with your rhetoric Janus. I haven't "trolled" on these forums, nor have I bashed anybody that didn't deserve it.

Right.

If you want to call my arguments pseudological, so be it.

They typically are.

I can just as say that you can preach "logic logic logic" all you want, but when it comes to debating objectively using that logic, you don't seem to have any clue as to how (you seem to have improved unlike some of the others). Your opinion is your opinion.

And you're entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

I'm going to assume you don't have a clue as to what a dynamic IP is.

There you go- assuming. You know the old adage.

It's very simple Janus. I am telling you I'm not who you think I am. Either prove it (omgz same ips!!), or let it go.

I'd say you're proving my case for me really. You haven't been very good at disproving any accusations with anything other than coincidences and identical IP information which is less likely then getting screwed by Pam Anderson and the Pope in the same night. I like how you think you can tell me to "let it go" as if you have any decisive power over what I post. Very amusing.

If there really was nothing to these claims, you wouldn't be so adamant in half-assed attacking them, would you?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
They typically are.

Ah they typically are? Well then coming from such an esteemed and objective debater such as yourself, I guess they are...

And you're entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be.

Right.. My opinion is wrong.. That makes a lot of sense. But since the forum nerds love an old fashioned game of "I know you are but what am I", I can play too. Janus, your opinion is wrong.. See what I did there? I basically repeated your nonsense.

I'd say you're proving my case for me really. You haven't been very good at disproving any accusations with anything other than coincidences and identical IP information which is less likely then getting screwed by Pam Anderson and the Pope in the same night. I like how you think you can tell me to "let it go" as if you have any decisive power over what I post. Very amusing.

You see Janus, this is the concept that eludes you. You call me "not very good" at disproving accusations, but I don't find myself disproving anything. It's actually very simple. I say it's not who you think it is. Since you keep making a claim (and making it seem like this is your life's pursuit), you either prove it or stop bothering me about it. Talk about amusing.. Once more, in case you're incapable of "getting it". Prove it or let it go.

If there really was nothing to these claims, you wouldn't be so adamant in half-assed attacking them, would you? [/B]

No, I'm not attacking your claims at all. You seem to take the internet a little too seriously while I know who I am and at the same time who I am not. Because the burden of proof is on you, I don't really have to do much but sit back and watch you complain and accuse me of defrauding the forums.. It's really amusing.

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Ah they typically are? Well then coming from such an esteemed and objective debater such as yourself, I guess they are...

Good that you recognize something obvious for once.

Right.. My opinion is wrong..

Your opinion, which means to hold a viewpoint as fact, is factually wrong. Yes. You say I cannot objectively use logic. This is obviously wrong. Since you're making the claim, I suppose you could man up or shut up, whichever appeals to you best.

You see Janus, this is the concept that eludes you. You call me "not very good" at disproving accusations, but I don't find myself disproving anything.

You don't, because you never disprove anything; you simply strawman, attack the other person, or use misdirections to mask the incompetency of your own tactics.

It's actually very simple.

This is the second time you've said this, yet it doesn't seem to work for you, does it?

I say it's not who you think it is. Since you keep making a claim (and making it seem like this is your life's pursuit), you either prove it or stop bothering me about it.

You need to pay better attention: I have backed up Faunus' claim that you are tdtd's sock. My evidence includes that you joined the same exact day that tdtd was banned, that you act just like him in all respects which is something everyone else notices as well, and you've had two accounts at my own forum who were noted for similar trolling, bashing, misdirection and socking. So really, it all comes together. I'm not making this my "life quest"; it's quite laughable that you have such a high esteem of yourself. I'm merely bored and you always bite when someone disagrees with you.

Talk about amusing.. Once more, in case you're incapable of "getting it". Prove it or let it go.

I've made my points. You can either answer to them, or remain silent and let us all make our own decisions on it.

No, I'm not attacking your claims at all.

O rly?

You:

Prove it or let it go.

I call that attacking the claim, don't you?

You seem to take the internet a little too seriously while I know who I am and at the same time who I am not.

Take the internet too seriously? You take yourself too seriously.

Because the burden of proof is on you, I don't really have to do much but sit back and watch you complain and accuse me of defrauding the forums.. It's really amusing.

Really, I don't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you've socked and trolled, DS. You've done that quite well yourself. My points are thus:

* You act just like tdtd: trolling, bashing, being a pseudointellectual bully and prick. This claim is echoed by others here as well.

* You joined the same day that tdtd was banned.

* You've acted the same way at my forum, under two different accounts. One was banned for trolling, acting like a jerk, and socking.

It's not enough to get you convicted for life, but it's pretty condemning. Your own defense here doesn't help you much. You claim that:

* You have a dynamic IP from a cable company, and somehow your IP matches exactly as your "David" screenname that was used on an earlier "Dave" screenname. Both screennames have professed to have similar interests, occupations, and writing styles.

* It's a coincidence that you happened to sign up on KMC the same day tdtd was banned.

* Everyone else is full of it and they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're tdtd even though it seems painfully obvious.

Please. I need more of your cheap entertainment. Reply.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Good that you recognize something obvious for once.

Sarcasm is above you?

Your opinion, which means to hold a viewpoint as fact, is factually wrong. Yes. You say I cannot objectively use logic. This is obviously wrong. Since you're making the claim, I suppose you could man up or shut up, whichever appeals to you best.

I tell you what.. You show me my "pseudological" arguments, since you made the initial claim, and I'll show you your subjective arguments. I guess you sort of missed that part.

You don't, because you never disprove anything; you simply strawman, attack the other person, or use misdirections to mask the incompetency of your own tactics.

Please show me where I:
1. Had to disprove something
2. attack a person or use misdirection that WASNT justifiable..

This is the second time you've said this, yet it doesn't seem to work for you, does it?

I guess this is a matter of opinion yet again?

You need to pay better attention: I have backed up Faunus' claim that you are tdtd's sock. My evidence includes that you joined the same exact day that tdtd was banned, that you act just like him in all respects which is something everyone else notices as well, and you've had two accounts at my own forum who were noted for similar trolling, bashing, misdirection and socking. So really, it all comes together. I'm not making this my "life quest"; it's quite laughable that you have such a high esteem of yourself. I'm merely bored and you always bite when someone disagrees with you.

I'm glad you can define everyone as you, Faunus, and maybe Escape. Furthermore, you call what I did trolling, bashing, and misdirection. I call it having a forum where the mods can't argue objectively (as proven time and time again by the participants of this forum who are also on yours). Not only that but it's painfully obvious if people don't agree with you, they leave. Which makes me really question why it is that you created an offshoot of KMC. I'm glad a customer service rep such as yourself is so bored that he needs to throw out accusations.

I've made my points. You can either answer to them, or remain silent and let us all make our own decisions on it.

I'm still waiting on proof on the majority of them. "I'm fairly certain"-not proof.

Take the internet too seriously? You take yourself too seriously.

What kind of an idiot doesn't?

Really, I don't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you've socked and trolled, DS. You've done that quite well yourself. My points are thus:

* You act just like tdtd: trolling, bashing, being a pseudointellectual bully and prick. This claim is echoed by others here as well.


Wow I called that one.. The "I know you are but what am I" game. I call you a pseudointellectual and you respond in kind. This claim is echoed by others? Who? You? FAunus? I'm glad you have such a firm grasp of reality. Furthermore, I have not trolled on this forum, nor bullied anyone who didn't deserve it. In fact I'm waiting on anyone confirming me being a troll here, since you love using that term.

* You joined the same day that tdtd was banned.

OMG!

It's not enough to get you convicted for life, but it's pretty condemning. Your own defense here doesn't help you much. You claim that:

* You have a dynamic IP from a cable company, and somehow your IP matches exactly as your "David" screenname that was used on an earlier "Dave" screenname. Both screennames have professed to have similar interests, occupations, and writing styles.

* It's a coincidence that you happened to sign up on KMC the same day tdtd was banned.

* Everyone else is full of it and they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're tdtd even though it seems painfully obvious.

Please. I need more of your cheap entertainment. Reply. [/B]


Oh I'm sure you do. I'm already amused by your pseudointellectual behavior. You do fail to understand a few points though:
You are not everyone. Stop appealing to the majority, especially since there's no majority to agree with you.
Me joining the same day as tdtd has no significance whatsoever.
Your efforts with this are persistent beyond belief. You REALLY seem bored, detective.
This may not be a court of law but you've yet to fully prove I am who you say I am. But since you enjoy this so much, please continue. I enjoy the hypocrisy and double standards.

Btw I also find it ironic that you and Rex have such different Sock checkers. Yours must be top of the line..

I tell you what.. You show me my "pseudological" arguments, since you made the initial claim, and I'll show you your subjective arguments. I guess you sort of missed that part.

It's right here.

Please show me where I:
1. Had to disprove something

This thread and the link above provided.

2. attack a person or use misdirection

Click on "Darth Sexy" on your screen, left hand side. Then click on "View all posts". If you can't find it there, you're just not trying.

I'm glad you can define everyone as you, Faunus, and maybe Escape.

Those are the vocal few on this thread. If you think they're the only ones, you're in the dark here.

Furthermore, you call what I did trolling, bashing, and misdirection.

This is true.

I call it having a forum where the mods can't argue objectively (as proven time and time again by the participants of this forum who are also on yours).

You've made this stink before. Bitter because you were booted for violating the rules and being given many chances to clean up your act?

Not only that but it's painfully obvious if people don't agree with you, they leave. Which makes me really question why it is that you created an offshoot of KMC.

I'm not sure why you consider it an offshoot of KMC.

I'm still waiting on proof on the majority of them. "I'm fairly certain"-not proof.

I thought you said my claims had no merit and that you're not attacking them. Why do you require more proof than what I've provided if the accusations have no truth to them?

Wow I called that one.. The "I know you are but what am I" game. I call you a pseudointellectual and you respond in kind. This claim is echoed by others? Who? You? FAunus? I'm glad you have such a firm grasp of reality.

More irrelevant misdirection, and you even admit to personal attacks.

Furthermore, I have not trolled on this forum, nor bullied anyone who didn't deserve it. In fact I'm waiting on anyone confirming me being a troll here, since you love using that term.

You have bullied and trolled here, despite who you think "deserves it". And it's not as if you'd believe anyone's word anyways. You simply just like being the center of attention.

Oh I'm sure you do. I'm already amused by your pseudointellectual behavior.

I imagine you're easily amused, tdtd.

You are not everyone. Stop appealing to the majority, especially since there's no majority to agree with you.

Appealing to majority? By stating that people tend to notice that you're tdtd in thought and deed? Am I to come about that conclusion without considering the thoughts of others? Isn't that a bit stupid- claiming that it's "appeal to majority" when I state that other people think you're tdtd? It's a statement which, in light of other evidence, holds more weight than a simple lie, don't you think?

Oh wait. No you don't. Sorry. Didn't mean to embarass you by asking that question aloud.

Me joining the same day as tdtd has no significance whatsoever.

Sure it does. It's grounds for suspicion. Your actions and behavior simply reinforce that suspicion.

Your efforts with this are persistent beyond belief. You REALLY seem bored, detective.

Persistant? I guess if you think so.

This may not be a court of law but you've yet to fully prove I am who you say I am.

I really don't have to prove it at this point. For one, access to IP addresses of tdtd and yourself is beyond my capability here, and really I don't care either way. I'm simply egging you on because you get all riled whenever I disagree with you or single you out.

Two, I've established grounds for suspicion, and that's sufficient because people who know you and know tdtd will agree with my points; and those who do not know the two of you won't care. So it works either way.

But since you enjoy this so much, please continue. I enjoy the hypocrisy and double standards.

1. Show me a specific instance of "hypocrisy".
2. Show me a specific instance of "double standards".

I'd love to see you do something other than blow smoke out of your ass.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
It's right here.

This thread and the link above provided.


Oh right.. Because it's a stretch to state that due to Yoda's certain force/saber mastery, he is superior to Nadd because Nadd could in no way have mastered the lightsaber at age 16, unless he was a super powered version of Sidious. Yea, REAL stretch, REALLY fallacious argument. What's REALLY funny is after viewing the 'ancient sith pwn all' debates, you and the rest of your friends had NO problems debating unknowns. All of a sudden, it's not only an unknown but there's NO way we can get ANY evidence out of it. I've had people on this forum telling me there was no problem with what I wrote and that Illustrious overreacted. But what do you expect from such objective debaters who I either have to agree with, or leave..

Click on "Darth Sexy" on your screen, left hand side. Then click on "View all posts". If you can't find it there, you're just not trying.

That's very logical. You make a claim yet I have to search. Once again I never denied bashing people.. I do it when they deserve it. Have you ever seen me bash Escape? Advent? Lightsnake (For non fanboyish reasons)? No? Well that's because they are the only ones on here that can debate and I respect them. Good point though!

You've made this stink before. Bitter because you were booted for violating the rules and being given many chances to clean up your act?

I don't need a chance to clean up my act, since this only means that I have to throw out all the sources and logic, and debate to your liking. Do I look like someone that fairs well against authority?

I'm not sure why you consider it an offshoot of KMC.

I said in MY opinion it looks like an offshoot because it seems like a bunch of disgruntled ancient sith fans left due to actual sources and logic being against them. But again this is my opinion, so don't take this as a "personal attack"..

I thought you said my claims had no merit and that you're not attacking them. Why do you require more proof than what I've provided if the accusations have no truth to them?

I don't require more proof. But if you're going to keep on going in circles, I suggest you throw in some proof, because a big shot like you wouldn't be wasting his time for no apparent reason..

More irrelevant misdirection, and you even admit to personal attacks.

I've never denied attacking people, whats your point? Irrelevant MisdirectioN? LOL..

You have bullied and trolled here, despite who you think "deserves it". And it's not as if you'd believe anyone's word anyways. You simply just like being the center of attention.

Yet again, you claiming it doesn't make it so. I have bullied people on here but I've never been called a troll. But I guess for someone who rarely visits this forum, this should be taken as fact.

I imagine you're easily amused, tdtd.

Well aren't you just precious? Internet forums easily amuse me. And stop calling me tdtd..

Appealing to majority? By stating that people tend to notice that you're tdtd in thought and deed? Am I to come about that conclusion without considering the thoughts of others? Isn't that a bit stupid- claiming that it's "appeal to majority" when I state that other people think you're tdtd? It's a statement which, in light of other evidence, holds more weight than a simple lie, don't you think?

It's a stupid statement because you consider "everyone", you and Faunus, which is certainly not a majority. Yet since you're considering it "everyone", you're appealing to a majority.

Oh wait. No you don't. Sorry. Didn't mean to embarass you by asking that question aloud.

How did you embarass me? Oh right.. I understand your character. You type something and consider it "pwnage".

Sure it does. It's grounds for suspicion. Your actions and behavior simply reinforce that suspicion.

So you say.

Persistant? I guess if you think so.

Thank you for allowing me to think. I'm so glad I have your approval..

I really don't have to prove it at this point. For one, access to IP addresses of tdtd and yourself is beyond my capability here, and really I don't care either way. I'm simply egging you on because you get all riled whenever I disagree with you or single you out.

How can you possibly know if I'm riled up or not, Dr Laura? Not even the best psychologists in the world can tell when someone's "riled up" due to text? For all you know I'm just responding to your nonsense with more sarcasm than you post. Does the thought that you MIGHT be riling me up make you feel better?

Two, I've established grounds for suspicion, and that's sufficient because people who know you and know tdtd will agree with my points; and those who do not know the two of you won't care. So it works either way.

1. Show me a specific instance of "hypocrisy".
2. Show me a specific instance of "double standards".

I'd love to see you do something other than blow smoke out of your ass.

Look no further than the ancient sith fanboyism that was on this forum before you guys packed up and left. Now people from here have a difficult time debating on EOD because you choose to ignore sources just because you disagree with them. Yet when an ancient sith (nadd) and a PT Jedi (Yoda), are involved in a versus fight, it's somehow an unknown. Nevermind that there's no evidence whatsoever that Nadd ever used his lightsaber after he killed his master. Nevermind that Yoda, as an 800 year old master, is second to nobody, not even Sidious, who is Nadd's superior. Let me guess. "Sidious is not the most powerful since none of the sources are in universe!". You ignore simple sources and throw in your own deluded logic. Hell, reading Dooku>Sidious gave me enough to laugh about.

Escape, here are more videos you need to see

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gtypu7wLPjo
This is another performance of "Remember when it rained". Notice the clearness, the power, and the range. I'm actually starting to think that in terms of clearness, he is better than Bolton.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TdbekB_HBQs
VERY good live performance of "You are loved". A little short though..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_t9I-_ARqeg
This one is just sick.. That's all I can say..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qYQacA5Rm18
Another sick performance of "You Are Loved". Did you know this man can sing in 4-5 languages? Anyways.. I think there is someone very important we forgot to add into this argument. I don't know if you will agree with me but I certainly consider him in their league, at least..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DhlkEDY_O84
None other than George Michael. This is by far his best performance..