Originally posted by vlaaad12345hulk's also been busted up by the likes of thing his feats in planet hulk are almost in direct contradiction to wwh gimmjow can deliver enough damage with multiple attacks the only question now is how long can he keep it up
Which he cant,hulk is mildly annoyed by nuclear blasts and jumps in lava with no real damage,gj is nowhere near strong enough to overwhelm hulks healing factor or durability,like I said earlier when cero starts destroying several feet of things a couple dozen times stronger then steel then we might start talking about it taking the hulk down.
Originally posted by Skeets
How is any of that Mach 35?
Originally posted by lando005
hulk's also been busted up by the likes of thing his feats in planet hulk are almost in direct contradiction to wwh gimmjow can deliver enough damage with multiple attacks the only question now is how long can he keep it up
Originally posted by Skeets
Lets say GrimmJow does go around Mach 35(lol Lies!)
He still doesn't have the arsenal to actually hurt Hulk.
That Cero blast isn't enough....
Eventually Hulk would land a hit,and 1 is all that it's gonna take...
Originally posted by Akuki
If you notice, I've never stated that Grimmjow would win, I would think it would require someone like Aizen to really smack him down properly. My main point here was just to try and show how fast the bleach characters are.
The manga only vaguely shows how fast the characters go,and Mach 35 is way out there...
That's DBZ Speed...
Originally posted by Skeets
That wasn't a response to you,more to the thread in general.The manga only vaguely shows how fast the characters go,and Mach 35 is way out there...
That's DBZ Speed...
Originally posted by Akuki
If you notice, I've never stated that Grimmjow would win, I would think it would require someone like Aizen to really smack him down properly. My main point here was just to try and show how fast the bleach characters are.
My point was that Hulk was able to tag someone who can go close to light speed in an atmosphere, even mach 35 is nowhere close to Gladiator's speed level.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345we're not sure if thing hits harder or not from the feats seen so far we can say gj can hit pretty hard not as strong as hulk but he's got some power in his blows
Again,thing hits harder then gj does,what multiple attacks is he going to use,hulk wont feel gjs physical attacks and cero is not going to do any more then cyclops blast did,gj cant keep up any amount of damage that will come close to putting hulk out.
also creo doesn't have a fixed power out the power varies by the person who's using it, let's say for your argument's sake that a creo from grimmjow is as strong as a full powered blast from scott, that's still not even his strongest attack he's got several more much much stronger than that ans wwh did have a little bit of trouble with scott's blast in the begining it's not like he walked through it like it was nothing grimmjow is stronger than you give credit
Originally posted by lando005
we're not sure if thing hits harder or not from the feats seen so far we can say gj can hit pretty hard not as strong as hulk but he's got some power in his blowsalso creo doesn't have a fixed power out the power varies by the person who's using it, let's say for your argument's sake that a creo from grimmjow is as strong as a full powered blast from scott, that's still not even his strongest attack he's got several more much much stronger than that ans wwh did have a little bit of trouble with scott's blast in the begining it's not like he walked through it like it was nothing grimmjow is stronger than you give credit
Originally posted by vlaaad12345how does that compare you kept going on about creo not being any better then cycolop's max power so for your sake i was arguing from that standpoint, as for ichigo both of them were half dead at that point i'm pretty sure the power output of that attack was lower than normal , once again grand grey was an attack that was able to damage the space around where it was fired tha shows a great deal of energy output pretty sure that would knock hulk on his ass for a few seconds
he really isnt,gjs regular cero has no feats on cyclops maximum level blast and wwh didnt really have the much problem with it all he lost was some skin,even gran rey cero isnt going to put hulk down,and considering a tired ichigo with a failing hollow mask can deflect gjs energy claws I dont see why someone who rumbled with classic juggernaut and matched him in strength couldnt stop them either.
strength and durability go to hulk without a doubt but speed ad versitility go to grimmjow he's got the speed and large enough attack set to put hulk down
like someone said earlier grimmjow may start off loosing in his sealed from especially if he fights upclose but if he's uleasehed and keeps his distance by say flying and attacks from above he should win even if hulk jumps at him he would be fast enough to dodge and catch hulk wide open to attack in mid air really not much he can do then besides a t-clap
Originally posted by lando005
how does that compare you kept going on about creo not being any better then cycolop's max power so for your sake i was arguing from that standpoint, as for ichigo both of them were half dead at that point i'm pretty sure the power output of that attack was lower than normal , once again grand grey was an attack that was able to damage the space around where it was fired tha shows a great deal of energy output pretty sure that would knock hulk on his ass for a few secondsstrength and durability go to hulk without a doubt but speed ad versitility go to grimmjow he's got the speed and large enough attack set to put hulk down
Originally posted by vlaaad12345yes he survived the lava and the nuke i have the hardback for planet hulk you dont have to beat me over the head with something i have right in front of me you can atleast mention his atmospheric reentre i also have every issue of wwh and that hulk that current hulk has durability showings that show he can be damaged by much weaker forces if he was able to survive the nuke and the lava ironman shouldnt have been able to stab him with that spike but he did hulk can be hurt by far less force than a nuke
With what attack how many times are we going to have to go in circles,gj cant spam gran rey cero or his energy claws nonstop and those are the only attacks that will even make hulk pause,lava and nuclear blasts not effecting hulk=he has way to much regen and durability to be put down by gj.
Originally posted by lando005
yes he survived the lava and the nuke i have the hardback for planet hulk you dont have to beat me over the head with something i have right in front of me you can atleast mention his atmospheric reentre i also have every issue of wwh and that hulk that current hulk has durability showings that show he can be damaged by much weaker forces if he was able to survive the nuke and the lava ironman shouldnt have been able to stab him with that spike but he did hulk can be hurt by far less force than a nuke
Originally posted by vlaaad12345wolverine isnt stronger than grimmjow and he was able to puncture hulk's skin, thing was able to do it, she hulk was able to do it, we have no idea how strong grimmjow is but i'm willing to bet he's stronger than you give credit
He can be hurt,but not the point its going to do anything,his regeneration and durability is just going to keep rising,and iron man is far superior to gj in raw strength,strop trying to make a point of him being hurt when its by beings superior to gj in strength.
Originally posted by lando005
wolverine isnt stronger than grimmjow and he was able to puncture hulk's skin, thing was able to do it, she hulk was able to do it, we have no idea how strong grimmjow is but i'm willing to bet he's stronger than you give credit
Originally posted by vlaaad12345your missing the point we dont know how strong grimmjow is and the reason i brought up wolverine is because you don't need to have thing's level of strength to hurt hulk he may not have adamantium claws be he has a sword and in his released from claws of his own and bullet like spikes that can do the job just as well you cant say the character is weaker when we havent seen a strength feat from him yet that allows us to properly rate his strength
thing is physically stronger then gj for about the 5th times,and wow your bringing wolverine into this....disregarding that he has the biggest jobber aura in existence,he has adamantium claws that can cut through steel like butter and he barely cut hulk it was a superficial wound,im giving gj more then enough credit your giving him way to much hes not physically on the level of iron man or thing and doesnt have claws that cut through just about everything,gj has absolutely 0% chance of winning this,hulk will catch him eventually and when he does gj better pray hulk doesnt feel like ripping him limb from limb.