grimmjow vs WWH · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by lando005
your missing the point we dont know how strong grimmjow is and the reason i brought up wolverine is because you don't need to have thing's level of strength to hurt hulk he may not have adamantium claws be he has a sword and in his released from claws of his own and bullet like spikes that can do the job just as well you cant say the character is weaker when we havent seen a strength feat from him yet that allows us to properly rate his strength

we saw everything gj has to offer what are you talking about,we saw him in his fully released state going all out and what was showed is not enough to put hulk down.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
we saw everything gj has to offer what are you talking about,we saw him in his fully released state going all out and what was showed is not enough to put hulk down.

i'm talking about all the comments you made about his physical strenght. We've seen him go all out using his powers but we never seen a pure strength feat from him. We're not going to agree on this you dont think he has a good enough attack array to take him down i do simple as that

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Are you even listening to my points?

Your calculations are bunk, because:

A. You just arbitrarily pulled distances out of thin air without scaling.

B. You assumed that the 20% reiatsu limiter equaled a 5x speed increase without evidence. Kenpachi had more reiatsu than Byakuya but Byakuya was faster, for example.

Akuki KMC ELITE - CABLE

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Are you even listening to my points?
Your calculations are bunk, because:
A. You just arbitrarily pulled distances out of thin air without scaling.
B. You assumed that the 20% reiatsu limiter equaled a 5x speed increase without evidence. Kenpachi had more reiatsu than Byakuya but Byakuya was faster, for example.

It's shown several times that the seals directly limit the speed of the fighter. For example there is the clear evidence from the Renji vs. Ichigo fight that he greatly increased in speed since the previous fight, and also from the initial attack by Grimmjow and his minions where Matsumoto was getting beating badly by her opponent who was using speed blitzes, and after the seal was removed she easily went far faster than her opponent. The seal seems to really function as limiting them to 20% of the abilities at least based on panel evidence, so your Byakuya and Kenpachi example is really irrelevant.
Also just to point out why I've been focusing on showing Byakuya's speed, if someone like Northstar causes someone like Punisher to see afterimages that isn't much of a speed feat, however if you can make someone like Quicksilver see them, then you're going damn fast.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Red herring. I never said that the limiter didn't decrease their speed at all, merely that it didn't decrease it by 5 times as you claimed.

lando005 Senior Member

actually it would 20 x 5 = 100 last time i checked

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

What?

The limiter just limited their reiatsu to 20% of its normal strength.

20% times 5 equals 100%.

Yet reiatsu does not scale linearly with speed.

Soljer Beware my Power

I'm sorry. Mike has a very good point that has ALREADY been pointed out; the calculations you did are entirely meaningless. My apologies, but you need to find another way to justify your 'mach 35' stuff.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by Endless Mike
What?
The limiter just limited their reiatsu to 20% of its normal strength.
20% times 5 equals 100%.
Yet reiatsu does not scale linearly with speed.

when you put it like that yea your right it can go either way from a logical stand point one would say that their speed should increase in such a manner but there are cases of one's power going up without their speed

but the argument of the rest of their stats increasing 5 fold is also very hard to argue against