Originally posted by SoljerWow... Does he have any idea how much acid you'd need... and how long it'd take?
I feel like such a bad person....But, seriously, go read the Punisher vs. Terminator thread.
Apparently, since some acids can eat through FINISHING metal over [b]DAYS
, the Punisher will just happen to have some on hand that can INSTANTLY render a T-1000 useless.... [/B]
They use acids to clean metal.. I mean if the terminator were made of gold or platinum aqua regia might do something...
But hell even hydrofluoric acid is used to clean stainless steel of oxides...
But a T-1000? Good lord... that thing was more fiction than it was science. A liquid metal robot... for all we know adding an acid even, nitric acid, might just result in strengthening the T-1000
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wow... Does he have any idea how much acid you'd need... and how long it'd take?They use acids to clean metal.. I mean if the terminator were made of gold or platinum aqua regia might do something...
But hell even hydrofluoric acid is used to clean stainless steel of oxides...
But a T-1000? Good lord... that thing was more fiction than it was science. A liquid metal robot... for all we know adding an acid even, nitric acid, might just result in strengthening the T-1000
Damaging T1000 with small amouth of acid? It must be said be weird person.
It's like Storm fanboys trying to persuade people than solarwind equals nuclear explosion.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelWell its due to the fact of the writers not understanding terms and scientists being lazy.
Damaging T1000 with small amouth of acid? It must be said be weird person.
It's like Storm fanboys trying to persuade people than solarwind equals nuclear explosion.
"Solar winds" no wind is actually involved {writers} but its the term we use{scientists} for plasma being discharged via nuclear explosion from the sun.
And often times these cause "Geomagnetic storms" even though it has nothing to do with the atmosphere{writers} but is the term we use{scientists} when the plasma interacts with our magnetosphere.
So the scientists who came up with the name used things that were associated with other things ... not very original of them.
And then the writers not understanding that solar winds had nothing to do with winds, and geomagnetic storms had nothing to do with storms, decided that since it had the words "Wind" and "storm" in it then Storm being able to affect "winds" and "storms" could effect these...
So all in all plenty of idiocy to pass around to people. Scientists for being lazy, writers for a lack of comprehension and fanboys for ... well the concintration of the mistakes of the previous too in pure unadulterated stupidity.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well its due to the fact of the writers not understanding terms and scientists being lazy."Solar [b]winds
" no wind is actually involved {writers} but its the term we use{scientists} for plasma being discharged via nuclear explosion from the sun.And often times these cause "Geomagnetic storms" even though it has nothing to do with the atmosphere{writers} but is the term we use{scientists} when the plasma interacts with our magnetosphere.
So the scientists who came up with the name used things that were associated with other things ... not very original of them.
And then the writers not understanding that solar winds had nothing to do with winds, and geomagnetic storms had nothing to do with storms, decided that since it had the words "Wind" and "storm" in it then Storm being able to affect "winds" and "storms" could effect these...
So all in all plenty of idiocy to pass around to people. Scientists for being lazy, writers for a lack of comprehension and fanboys for ... well the concintration of the mistakes of the previous too in pure unadulterated stupidity. [/B]
True, I think the One instance where she did control a solar wind was retconned though. In Classic X-Men...it's been re-written into lightning...instead of a Solar Wind.
Uncanny #99(June 1976)
Retcon takes place in Classic X-Men #7(March 1987)
Claremont wrote both issues.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakand a backpack thruster rather than "solar winds" for movement.
True, I think the One instance where she did control a solar wind was retconned though. In Classic X-Men...it's been re-written into lightning...instead of a Solar Wind.Uncanny #99(June 1976)
Retcon takes place in Classic X-Men #7(March 1987)
Claremont wrote both issues.
Cause seriously... Storm flying on solar winds... yes, lets surround ourselves with charged surface of the sun temperature plasma... to move...
That's okay, back around that time he had cool ideas ... his explinations just sucked... Like Jubilee's original description of her power... Articulate quasi animate transitory plasmoids...
Sounds cool, but in essence its just buzz speak. Course she was a kid at the time and never really had a chance to learn what it was she was actually doing. *shrugs* how was she supposed to know that she was creating localized nuclear explosions?
They believe that solar wind (a stream of ionized particles and alpha particles) equals a nuclear bomb in overall destructive power...yes, but it can be stopped by a piece of metal foil.
Also I don't get what the stream of electrons and ions has to do with Earth's weather patterns which are subject of Storm's manipulation.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=454474&pagenumber=6#post9498330
In fact, comics physics is dumb. For example, how would you explain Human Torch surviving the side effect of his Supernova attack which has nothing to do with heat?
At such extreme temperatures air around him burns out creating powerful pressure wave when the ambient air rushes into free space.
A person with human durability would logically be sqished at such pressures. Though sometimes you can use that effect in your favour, by burning out the air around enemies.
In comics they tend to overlook the pressure wave effect, though heat vortexes to suck things in are used.
The whole "rapid pressure changes stuff" is also the reason why evaporating great amouths of water in close proximity to you is dumb. You'll be thrown away as if you were standing at point blank of explosing grenade due to immediately created great amouth of vapor.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelElectricity itself is a stream of electrons or protons.. I.E. Lightning.
They believe that solar wind (a stream of ionized particles and alpha particles) equals a nuclear bomb in overall destructive power...yes, but it can be stopped by a piece of metal foil.
Also I don't get what the stream of electrons and ions has to do with Earth's weather patterns which are subject of Storm's manipulation.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=454474&pagenumber=6#post9498330
Saying "The power of a nuclear bomb" isn't saying much... Jubilee's power WAS that of nuclear explosions. She detonated the air on a sub-atomic level
Originally posted by Creshosk
X-Men #36 actually.
In the Ultimate universe they explained Ultimate Dazzler's power the way that 616 Jubilee's power functioned.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelBeing immune to the effects of your own powers seems to be pretty standard... in fact to Masque it was a hinderence.
In fact, comics physics is dumb. For example, how would you explain Human Torch surviving the side effect of his Supernova attack which has nothing to do with heat?
At such extreme temperatures air around him burns out creating powerful pressure wave when the ambient air rushes into free space.A person with human durability would logically be sqished at such pressures. Though sometimes you can use that effect in your favour, by burning out the air around enemies.
In comics they tend to overlook the pressure wave effect, though heat vortexes to suck things in are used.
Torch is like the embodiment of the element of fire. *shrugs* I mean seriously, when he's just burning regularly what is he burning?So he's gotta have some pressure durability if there's even that level of it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Electricity itself is a stream of electrons or protons.. I.E. Lightning.Saying "The power of a nuclear bomb" isn't saying much... Jubilee's power WAS that of nuclear explosions. She detonated the air on a sub-atomic level
In the Ultimate universe they explained Ultimate Dazzler's power the way that 616 Jubilee's power functioned.
Being immune to the effects of your own powers seems to be pretty standard... in fact to Masque it was a hinderence.
Torch is like the embodiment of the element of fire. *shrugs* I mean seriously, when he's just burning regularly what is he burning?So he's gotta have some pressure durability if there's even that level of it.
The effect of ambient pressure is known to be ignored in comics physics, that's all. Though it happens around 4000 Kelvin degrees if I'm not mistaken.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelWell, superstength for exampl also includes a level of durability even if it's not part of a powerset, as the person has to be durable enough that their muscle doesn't tear and their bones don't break when they lift the heavy stuff.
He's resistant to heat energy according to his power description, heat, and not pressure.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelI meant each of the FF are an embodiment of one of the four western elements. not that he was made of it. Meh, it was an offhand comment anyway.
His body isn't composed of fire, also.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelthe ambiant pressure would simply be the surrounding air rushing into fill the gaps where the older air was removed from. It happened at least one time to jubilee when she detonated the Mandarin's mansion. In fact that's basically what her "pafs" of her powers were.
The effect of ambient pressure is known to be ignored in comics physics, that's all. Though it happens around 4000 Kelvin degrees if I'm not mistaken.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well, superstength for exampl also includes a level of durability even if it's not part of a powerset, as the person has to be durable enough that their muscle doesn't tear and their bones don't break when they lift the heavy stuff.I meant each of the FF are an embodiment of one of the four western elements. not that he was made of it. Meh, it was an offhand comment anyway.
the ambiant pressure would simply be the surrounding air rushing into fill the gaps where the older air was removed from. It happened at least one time to jubilee when she detonated the Mandarin's mansion. In fact that's basically what her "pafs" of her powers were.
I remember how it was explained in that X4 crossover. Superstrength and superhuiman durability are "pair powers", that's well known fact.
That depends of amouth of the air. An inverse effect of pressure wave from explosion, if you prefer that. By the way, sometimes it adds an extra aspect to your attack (for example, when your opponent is resistant to heat but not resistant to pure physical force, pressure wave striking him really fast and from all directions is going to help). In fact, pressure waves from rapidly moving gas is one of the major factors of damage in explosions.
I know that Jubilee's powers are pyrokinesis-related, they were described as pyrokinesis and not once. I know Jubilee's powerset rather well.
By the way, do you know that her powers (their psionic aspect used to direct the whole plasmoids stuff)sometimes can make it difficult for telepaths to read her minds (that happened once when Jean (or Psylocke, I don't remember) were trying to mindprobe her)?
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelYup.. it happened in Uncanny #244
I remember how it was explained in that X4 crossover. Superstrength and superhuiman durability are "pair powers", that's well known fact.That depends of amouth of the air. An inverse effect of pressure wave from explosion, if you prefer that. By the way, sometimes it adds an extra aspect to your attack (for example, when your opponent is resistant to heat but not resistant to pure physical force, pressure wave striking him really fast and from all directions is going to help). In fact, pressure waves from rapidly moving gas is one of the major factors of damage in explosions.
I know that Jubilee's powers are pyrokinesis-related, they were described as pyrokinesis and not once. I know Jubilee's powerset rather well.
By the way, do you know that her powers (their psionic aspect used to direct the whole plasmoids stuff)sometimes can make it difficult for telepaths to read her minds (that happened once when Jean (or Psylocke, I don't remember) were trying to mindprobe her)?
Though I never posted in in the respect thread is because that's the only time I recall her doing it. It was forgotten shortly after that and then Psylock was able to read her mind passivley, and then later to transfer knowledge to her, and she got taken over by the shadow king...
And while she's my favorite character I don't want to be a fanboy and hype her up into something she's not. I like her for who she is and recognize that even though it was her first appearence... it didn't happen again after that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yup.. it happened in Uncanny #244
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/281/uxm244pg22jd8.jpgThough I never posted in in the respect thread is because that's the only time I recall her doing it. It was forgotten shortly after that and then Psylock was able to read her mind passivley, and then later to transfer knowledge to her, and she got taken over by the shadow king...
And while she's my favorite character I don't want to be a fanboy and hype her up into something she's not. I like her for who she is and recognize that even though it was her first appearence... it didn't happen again after that.
Desent decision. Though some Jubilee fans loved that feat (especially Simon but he was a fanboy and was treated by the most part of Russian comics fans community in the way Judge is treated here at KMC), but it was quite a PIS. Especially against skilled telepath. Look at what Emma does with Jubilee...from unlocking her potential in the fight with Phalanx to causing her powers to misfire during the Onslaught arc.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelSmart lady Emma. Kept the kids out of Onslaught and even bamboozled them for a period of time while whisking them away to Canada. I'm really appreciative of her for that.
Desent decision. Though some Jubilee fans loved that feat (especially Simon), but it was quite a PIS. Especially against skilled telepath. Look at what Emma does with Jubilee...from unlocking her potential in the fight with Phalanx to causing her powers to misfire during the Onslaught arc.
Happened in GenX #18 where she triggered the misfire and she kept them safe in GenX #19.
I wouldn't call it PIS really, just a power trait that was quickly forgotten. Psylocke might not have memorized her patterns in the panic, since they first met where Jubilee was going to be captured in that wierd device. plus it was in a mall so there might have been too many to pick through while they were ducking the cops themselves.
At anyrate, it happened only once that a telepath failed to find her in her first appearence and never again so is not one of her power set.
