Forgotten Realms Discussion Thread

Originally posted by emporerpants
well, i mean, who would win in a fight if everyone is given their best weapons?

in my opinion are the two greatest warriors.

you guys are going to make me go and catch up on my books lol

Anybody remember the singing priest i think his name was Caderly..he used a drow crossbow for a while with explosive bolts? i read like 6 or more of his books, he got powerfull real fast and then aged from his magic. what was the books names? the books are not available to me at the moment,but i loved them, might want to revisit them

Heh, I'm going out to eat with Bob Salvatore tonight at 7.

Just thought that was relevant to this thread, especially because Capt thinks I'm full of it. 🙄

.....becuase you are...............

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.....becuase you are...............

Think what you'd like man. Salvatore was in KC today for a book signing (Orc King, obviously), and the guys and I from Tabletop Games & Hobby took him out to eat after the signing.

.......ya and I was cruising around town with larry bird...........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.......ya and I was cruising around town with larry bird...........

Larry Bird is a national celebrity.

Bob Salvatore is a fantasy author.

Huge difference.

Whoever hinted that Artemis is better than Drizzt.... have you read any of the books they've fought in, because if I remember correctly Drizzt has handed him his ass in single combat several times.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............are you serous . dude the stats have nothing to do with the books.

I once saw a no named character from one of the books who could not even hand drizzt or bruenor even if they were unarmed stated as a level 26..........

The stats are carbage they don't even have bruenors equitpmen or weapon correct.

No stats are given in any of the fantasy books, they are only provided in campaign books for the table top / miniature game. In order for a character be name a level 26... someone would have needed to write about them in on of the Forgotten Realms campaign books... which would make them far from nameless. An while the stats aren't always up to date (Artemis' haven't update since before he aquired Charon's Claw I believe), they are alway fairly accurate

In short: You either have no idea what you are talking about or you are flat out lying.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Whoever hinted that Artemis is better than Drizzt.... have you read any of the books they've fought in, because if I remember correctly Drizzt has handed him his ass in single combat several times.

Oh please Drizzt is always about to lose when Bob introduces a dues-ex machina that allows the Drow to miraculously pull his fat out of the fire, he wins on pure luck, not skill. Artemis is better then Drizzt, he was created to be better then Drizzt (created to kill Drizzt actually but WotC wouldn't let Bob do it) and they haven't fought since Artemis was a) de-aged and b) acquired Charon's Claw (one nick would end up killing Drizzt in the long run).

... and before Artemis was de-aged he had a pretty significant skill increase to compinsate for his decline speed and reflexes. Now he is stronger and faster (and most importantly, a better fighter) then he ever was before and being part Shade he may out live Drizzt! With his current equipment and stats, Artemis would steam roll Drizzt.

Sorry to go off topic but what's the status of the Wolverine Respect thread Srank?

Originally posted by Badabing
Sorry to go off topic but what's the status of the Wolverine Respect thread Srank?

I have to finish write ups for the scans then I'll send the links/descriptions to Jinzin so he can compile them the way he wants. He has a certain layout / organization he wants to use so the whole read is unified.

I'm at my parents this weekend for thanksgiving and most of my week will be spent studying for my Art History midterm but hopefully after that I will have some free time to finish my write ups since I think all my Art and Design studio class have a one week lull in the projects/work load.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have to finish write ups for the scans then I'll send the links/descriptions to Jinzin so he can compile them the way he wants. He has a certain layout / organization he wants to use so the whole read is unified.

I'm at my parents this weekend for thanksgiving and most of my week will be spent studying for my Art History midterm but hopefully after that I will have some free time to finish my write ups since I think all my Art and Design studio class have a one week lull in the projects/work load.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh please Drizzt is always about to lose when Bob introduces a dues-ex machina that allows the Drow to miraculously pull his fat out of the fire, he wins on pure luck, not skill. Artemis is better then Drizzt, he was created to be better then Drizzt (created to kill Drizzt actually but WotC wouldn't let Bob do it) and they haven't fought since Artemis was a) de-aged and b) acquired Charon's Claw (one nick would end up killing Drizzt in the long run).

... and before Artemis was de-aged he had a pretty significant skill increase to compinsate for his decline speed and reflexes. Now he is stronger and faster (and most importantly, a better fighter) then he ever was before and being part Shade he may out live Drizzt! With his current equipment and stats, Artemis would steam roll Drizzt.

You're dillusional dude, can u give one example of Artemis beating Drizzt fair and square... can u give one example of how Drizzt got "lucky" enough to beat Drizzt. Did you even read Artemis's own books where he makes frequent mention of the multiple times that Drizzt humiliated him?

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
You're dillusional dude, can u give one example of Artemis beating Drizzt fair and square... can u give one example of how Drizzt got "lucky" enough to beat Drizzt. Did you even read Artemis's own books where he makes frequent mention of the multiple times that Drizzt humiliated him?

Drizzt only has one win against Artemis, a win that he flat out stated was because of pure luck and nothing else. He got lucky; Artemis' eye got swollen over, leaving a massive blind spot that Drizzt capitalized on... he said it him self right after he "beat" Artemis (it is in his journal also). He never beat Artemis because he was his superior he beat him because he got luck when the head bunted each other and Artemis eye swelled over. Artemis even held the advantaged (both Jarlaxle and his dark elf crew and Drizzt's companions thought Artemis had him) but his condition continued to deteriorate until Drizzt pulled out a win. It was a plot device victory, one that was needed because Drizzt can't best Artemis on skill alone... and that is ignoring the fact that Artemis states, in that very book, that in the decade since he first met Drizzt he has become slower and his reflexes have dulled because of his age.

And Artemis is upset that Drizzt was killed because of Kimmuriel's interference. He wanted to best Drizzt in a fair fight or die trying but instead Drizzt was killed (as far as Artemis knows anyway) because of Kimmuriel's magic, so wasn't the closure he was after.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No stats are given in any of the fantasy books, they are only provided in campaign books for the table top / miniature game. In order for a character be name a level 26... someone would have needed to write about them in on of the Forgotten Realms campaign books... which would make them far from nameless. An while the stats aren't always up to date (Artemis' haven't update since before he aquired Charon's Claw I believe), they are alway fairly accurate

In short: You either have no idea what you are talking about or you are flat out lying.

Please jsut read bruenor character.....it says he has one eye....false.........he wields a great axe...false..........does not even mention his shield as his equiptment.

His entire character is completely rubbish.

The stats are wrong. Theya re not written by the author and are worse then marvel hand books yet your trying to use that as soem sort of evidences come on srank.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Neither and you know better then that.

Please jsut read bruenor character.....it says he has one eye....false.........he wields a great axe...false..........does not even mention his shield as his equiptment.

His entire character is completely rubbish.

The stats are wrong. Theya re not written by the author and are worse then marvel hand books yet your trying to use that as soem sort of evidences come on srank.

Bruenor lost his eye in The Legacy, it was restored by magic, and he uses a a +3 great axe. You are right that they forgot to mention his shield in his Silver Marches entry but that is the only mistake in his bio or stats.

The Forgotten Realms books are all written around the stats system and campaign settings, which is completely different then the Marvel stats/bios. The Forgotten Realms forgotten realms campaign setting has a deep and complex lore, and a set of rules to match it, all the Forgotten Realms characters adhere to these rules and there stats/class determine the abilities and feats they can preform. The D&D campaign books and the novels work together in unison and are both overseen by Ed Green (I think) to maintain unity and avoid contradiction. What you don't understand is the the novels exist for the sole purpose of enriching and providing a deeper understanding of the lore in provided campaign settings, they aren't a separate entity.

Now I'm not at all familiar with FR comics or anything, but does Elminster make any comic appearances at all? He's always been my favorite character from FR (I say nay to all ye who say he is but a rip-off of the classic Gandalf arch-type)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Bruenor lost his eye in The Legacy, it was restored by magic, and he uses a a +3 great axe. You are right that they forgot to mention his shield in his Silver Marches entry but that is the only mistake in his bio or stats.

The Forgotten Realms books are all written around the stats system and campaign settings, which is completely different then the Marvel stats/bios. The Forgotten Realms forgotten realms campaign setting has a deep and complex lore, and a set of rules to match it, all the Forgotten Realms characters adhere to these rules and there stats/class determine the abilities and feats they can preform. The D&D campaign books and the novels work together in unison and are both overseen by Ed Green (I think) to maintain unity and avoid contradiction. What you don't understand is the the novels exist for the sole purpose of enriching and providing a deeper understanding of the lore in provided campaign settings, they aren't a separate entity.

your completely wrong first off a great axe can not be wielded one handed.......first mistake. second sheild was missing.

Those to mistakes alone prove that it a bunch of crap.

there completely sepperate. There worse then hand books and are not even close to factaul evidence.

you should know better then to use things such as hand books as reasonable evidence were they clearly cotrodict the books.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
your completely wrong first off a great axe can not be wielded one handed.......first mistake. second sheild was missing.

Those to mistakes alone prove that it a bunch of crap.

there completely sepperate. There worse then hand books and are not even close to factaul evidence.

you should know better then to use things such as hand books as reasonable evidence were they clearly cotrodict the books.

battlethimble, perhaps the novels are wrong and the handbooks are correct. 😉