Yo.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Fear Happened. They couldn't even defeat him until crept into his heart.
thats not true: Kyle got beat when he got hit from behind by Sinestro, and then multi-blasted by the rest of the SC'ers, however he got DEFEATED when Sin ripped out the Ion-symbiote & made him cry about his mom.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Umm... what are you talking about now? GL's are not in general on par with heralds. High level Green Lantern's are - yes, this is true, if you look at Kyle or Hal or some of the other good ones. If you look at Green Lantern's as a whole though, a lot of the GL corp right now are new recruits from doing battle with the Sinestro corp. and aren't even that used to their powers yet, that's why they're dropping like flies right now.You got a few uber Green Lantern's like Hal, Mogo, Kyle, Killowogg, and John Stewart, but as a whole they aren't that well trained and / or well disciplined at the moment; as of the last few showings they have taken a beating.
GLs not being on-par w/heralds is so untrue its not even funny, and U called MOGO uber??? wats he done to deserve that distinction???
and sure the last few showing have taken a beating since theyve all been sneak attacks, so I dont see how U can hold that against them really.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazerglanterns arent on par with the hearlds, how many gls' just die like nothing. most of them are foot soldiers. heralds on average are more powerful.
Yo.GLs not being on-par w/heralds is so untrue its not even funny, and U called MOGO uber??? wats he done to deserve that distinction???
and sure the last few showing have taken a beating since theyve all been sneak attacks, so I dont see how U can hold that against them really.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.GLs not being on-par w/heralds is so untrue its not even funny, and U called MOGO uber??? wats he done to deserve that distinction???
and sure the last few showing have taken a beating since theyve all been sneak attacks, so I dont see how U can hold that against them really.
Tazer
In the Green Lanterns war against the Sinestro Corps, numreous times GL's were one-shot and died instantly. How often to you see a herald get one-shot by another herald level being?
Let's go over some herald feats:
Silver Surfer:
Creates anti-gravity to protect someone from a black hole:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-14.jpg
Goes into a black hole with ease:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-15.jpg
Evolves an entire planet billions of years:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-015b.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-016.jpg
Absorb the entire power of the Oa central battery which Kyle cannot maintain.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0047.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0048.jpg
So what was that again about Kyle being above skyfather level, when he can't even handle what Silver Surfer can? 🙄
Oh but wait, GL's are so much more powerful than Heralds, right? Well look what happens when Quasar, Marvel's version of a GL, tries to contain Surfer in a construct:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpg
Or how about how he deals with Genis, a powerhouse in his own right:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_122_17.jpg
Keep in mind this is Silver Surfer before he got upgraded by Galactus during the Annihilation saga. Keep in mind that Surfer is far below a skyfather, as we see him get stomped when he tried to attack Odin.
Oh but wait, according to Nvr, Kyle is "skyfather level", so why was he, a "skyfather level" being, unable to do what Silver Surfer could do, a mere herald level being, of which, according to Nvr, each GL is at least equal to.
😆 Nvr you crack me up. I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff sometimes. Skyfather level. Bwahahahahahaha.
😂 🤣
Heck even Superman is impressed with herald level abilities:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/SilvSurf_Superman_1997_001_45.jpg
Originally posted by Kutulu
In the Green Lanterns war against the Sinestro Corps, numreous times GL's were one-shot and died instantly. How often to you see a herald get one-shot by another herald level being?Let's go over some herald feats:
Silver Surfer:
Creates anti-gravity to protect someone from a black hole:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-14.jpgGoes into a black hole with ease:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-15.jpgEvolves an entire planet billions of years:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-015b.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-016.jpgAbsorb the entire power of the Oa central battery [b]which Kyle cannot maintain.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0047.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0048.jpgSo what was that again about Kyle being above skyfather level, when he can't even handle what Silver Surfer can? 🙄
Oh but wait, GL's are so much more powerful than Heralds, right? Well look what happens when Quasar, Marvel's version of a GL, tries to contain Surfer in a construct:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpgOr how about how he deals with Genis, a powerhouse in his own right:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_122_17.jpgKeep in mind this is Silver Surfer before he got upgraded by Galactus during the Annihilation saga. Keep in mind that Surfer is far below a skyfather, as we see him get stomped when he tried to attack Odin.
Oh but wait, according to Nvr, Kyle is "skyfather level", so why was he, a "skyfather level" being, unable to do what Silver Surfer could do, a mere herald level being, of which, according to Nvr, each GL is at least equal to.
😆 Nvr you crack me up. I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff sometimes. Skyfather level. Bwahahahahahaha.
😂 🤣Heck even Superman is impressed with herald level abilities:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/SilvSurf_Superman_1997_001_45.jpg [/B]
Show me one herald containing a unviersal big bang or being the archetech of the beyonders transcending time and space. Until you do, your entire argument is a big FAIL.
Originally posted by Kutuluyou owned him. and bad. u have proof while he has nothing. nicely down as proof always hold weight in any debate.
In the Green Lanterns war against the Sinestro Corps, numreous times GL's were one-shot and died instantly. How often to you see a herald get one-shot by another herald level being?Let's go over some herald feats:
Silver Surfer:
Creates anti-gravity to protect someone from a black hole:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-14.jpgGoes into a black hole with ease:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-15.jpgEvolves an entire planet billions of years:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-015b.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_Vol3-016.jpgAbsorb the entire power of the Oa central battery [b]which Kyle cannot maintain.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0047.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0048.jpgSo what was that again about Kyle being above skyfather level, when he can't even handle what Silver Surfer can? 🙄
Oh but wait, GL's are so much more powerful than Heralds, right? Well look what happens when Quasar, Marvel's version of a GL, tries to contain Surfer in a construct:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpgOr how about how he deals with Genis, a powerhouse in his own right:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1996_122_17.jpgKeep in mind this is Silver Surfer before he got upgraded by Galactus during the Annihilation saga. Keep in mind that Surfer is far below a skyfather, as we see him get stomped when he tried to attack Odin.
Oh but wait, according to Nvr, Kyle is "skyfather level", so why was he, a "skyfather level" being, unable to do what Silver Surfer could do, a mere herald level being, of which, according to Nvr, each GL is at least equal to.
😆 Nvr you crack me up. I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff sometimes. Skyfather level. Bwahahahahahaha.
😂 🤣Heck even Superman is impressed with herald level abilities:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/SilvSurf_Superman_1997_001_45.jpg [/B]
😉
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Show me one herald containing a unviersal big bang or being the archetech of the beyonders transcending time and space. Until you do, your entire argument is a big FAIL.
I already showed a scan of Silver Surfer doing something that Kyle could not. You lose. If Kyle was as powerful as you make him out to be, he would have defeated Imperiex by himself.
Originally posted by Kutulu
I already showed a scan of Silver Surfer doing something that Kyle could not. You lose. If Kyle was as powerful as you make him out to be, he would have defeated Imperiex by himself.
He held the big bang. Nuff said. There is nothign the surfer can do that a GL cannot. The Ring user can do ANYTHING the user can imagine and has the will power to accomplish. hence why Kyle was able to shield a big bang. FAIL. try again.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There is nothign the surfer can do that a GL cannot. The Ring user can do ANYTHING the user can imagine and has the will power to accomplish. hence why Kyle was able to shield a big bang. FAIL. try again.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpg
Hmmm that's funny, because a certain comic book company says that you are wrong.
Oh and by the way: "I can't contain it all". I have proved, with this scan, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are wrong. If Kyle was so leagues above a herald in strength, then he would not have needed a herald to help him out. End of story.
Kyle couldn't hold Imperiex indefinitely either. Surfer has manipulated the big crunch, the equivilant to more than a big bang energy (it's the equivilant of manipulating the source wall). It severely hurt him, but he did it. So there goes your theory, down the drain. You lose, try again.
Originally posted by Kutulu👆
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpgHmmm that's funny, because a certain comic book company says that [b]you are wrong.
Oh and by the way: "I can't contain it all". I have proved, with this scan, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are wrong. If Kyle was so leagues above a herald in strength, then he would not have needed a herald to help him out. End of story.
Kyle couldn't hold Imperiex indefinitely either. Surfer has manipulated the big crunch, the equivilant to more than a big bang energy (it's the equivilant of manipulating the source wall). It severely hurt him, but he did it. So there goes your theory, down the drain. You lose, try again. [/B]
Originally posted by Kutulu
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpgHmmm that's funny, because a certain comic book company says that [b]you are wrong.
Oh and by the way: "I can't contain it all". I have proved, with this scan, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are wrong. If Kyle was so leagues above a herald in strength, then he would not have needed a herald to help him out. End of story.
Kyle couldn't hold Imperiex indefinitely either. Surfer has manipulated the big crunch, the equivilant to more than a big bang energy (it's the equivilant of manipulating the source wall). It severely hurt him, but he did it. So there goes your theory, down the drain. You lose, try again. [/B]
UM, Imperiex was more than a big bang, he was going to destroy the first reality and then create another, more than just a big bang. And where does it state that the cruch is universal destroying in power? Are you using a non cannon crossover? The one where Kyle absorbed the power cosmic and Thanos needed the help of a GL?
Actually, to clarify, what Surfer manipulated was not a "Big Crunch" (which is the state all the matter and energy collapsing together at one possible end of a universe), but something entirely different with a similar name, which is apparently some kind of physical barrier at the edge of the 616 universe that separates it from the negative zone. Said energies of this "Crunch" were also stated to be specifically harmful to the Proemial gods, like their Kryptonite.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually, to clarify, what Surfer manipulated was not a "Big Crunch" (which is the state all the matter and energy collapsing together at one possible end of a universe), but something entirely different with a similar name, which is apparently some kind of physical barrier at the edge of the 616 universe that separates it from the negative zone. Said energies of this "Crunch" were also stated to be specifically harmful to the Proemial gods, like their Kryptonite.
I didn't think it was the big crunch itself, but a remainder of the energy or something like that. It was stated that T n A both wielded the crunch energies AND that it was particularly harmful to them :/
Originally posted by llagrok
I didn't think it was the big crunch itself, but a remainder of the energy or something like that. It was stated that T n A both wielded the crunch energies AND that it was particularly harmful to them :/
A Big Crunch is something that happens at the end of a universe. How could it be a remainder of something that hadn't happened yet?
to clarify further...if i recall correctly the crunch is actually the same energy released from the big bang that is radiating outward...i.e. the crunch is literally the exact point where the (marvel 616) universe is expanding....and it's expanding into the negative zone, which annihilus uses as a pretext to wage war. why is called the crunch? maybe it is constricting the negative zone, like a real big crunch...who knows. it's certainly a better name than the bang.
surfer rides the "crunch" >>> surfer rides the "bang"
Originally posted by Tenebrous
to clarify further...if i recall correctly the crunch is actually the same energy released from the big bang that is radiating outward...i.e. the crunch is literally the exact point where the (marvel 616) universe is expanding....and it's expanding into the negative zone, which annihilus uses as a pretext to wage war. why is called the crunch? maybe it is constricting the negative zone, like a real big crunch...who knows. it's certainly a better name than the bang.surfer rides the "crunch" >>> surfer rides the "bang"
It is the expanding outer shell of the universe. It is the force of creation which created the universe itself, and supposedly it is how the former universe was destroyed when it one day turned inbound and caused the universe to implode, leaving only Galan who later became Galactus after being protected by the cosmic egg.
