Originally posted by Kutulu
It is the expanding outer shell of the universe. It is the force of creation which created the universe itself, and supposedly it is how the former universe was destroyed when it one day turned inbound and caused the universe to implode, leaving only Galan who later became Galactus after being protected by the cosmic egg.
That goes against the phoenix thoery as well as the Infinity being theory.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That goes against the phoenix thoery as well as the Infinity being theory.
Okay? It still is the story of how Galactus came to be.
Also, Mike. The current 616 universe is the result of the big crunch and not the big bang, so it's not completely unfeasible that there would be remnants of it.
Originally posted by llagrok
Okay? It still is the story of how Galactus came to be.Also, Mike. The current 616 universe is the result of the big crunch and not the big bang, so it's not completely unfeasible that there would be remnants of it.
Remnants of it and it in it's entirety are altogether diff. IMO.
Originally posted by llagrok
Okay? It still is the story of how Galactus came to be.Also, Mike. The current 616 universe is the result of the big crunch and not the big bang, so it's not completely unfeasible that there would be remnants of it.
well according to physics a big crunch occurs when the universe's gravity or whate have you is too great and starts reigning in dark matter and whatever...it is analogous to a sun turing into a dwarf...big crunch ends the universe, big bang begins it.
to clarify, Galan's universe was being destroyed by the cosmic "radiation" which was later explained (in adventures of x-men or in a subsequent handbook or some such) to be the result of the shattering of the m'kraan crystal....the big crunch didn't end Galan's universe.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
well according to physics a big crunch occurs when the universe's gravity or whate have you is too great and starts reigning in dark matter and whatever...it is analogous to a sun turing into a dwarf...big crunch ends the universe, big bang begins it.to clarify, Galan's universe was being destroyed by the cosmic "radiation" which was later explained (in adventures of x-men or in a subsequent handbook or some such) to be the result of the shattering of the m'kraan crystal....the big crunch didn't end Galan's universe.
Interesting.
Originally posted by Tenebroussomeone who knows their stuff. 😉
well according to physics a big crunch occurs when the universe's gravity or whate have you is too great and starts reigning in dark matter and whatever...it is analogous to a sun turing into a dwarf...big crunch ends the universe, big bang begins it.to clarify, Galan's universe was being destroyed by the cosmic "radiation" which was later explained (in adventures of x-men or in a subsequent handbook or some such) to be the result of the shattering of the m'kraan crystal....the big crunch didn't end Galan's universe.
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
glanterns arent on par with the hearlds, how many gls' just die like nothing. most of them are foot soldiers. heralds on average are more powerful.
most of the 1's who die are, like any force involving more than 5, nameless and meant to show scope moreso than anything else.
heralds arent any better or worse in that regard, and insofar as power goes the only way U can argue that heralds R more powerful is if U have yur head up yur keister; hell, GLs might even have the bigger displays of power at that.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Kutulu
In the Green Lanterns war against the Sinestro Corps, numreous times GL's were one-shot and died instantly. How often to you see a herald get one-shot by another herald level being?
ummm, U realize that the 1st 2 or GLs who got sniped werent actively protecting themselves, and due to the fact that they were being sniped were getting hit by an extrodinarily high-intensity beam.
as for those feats I could post some that equal or better it, but Im not really in the mood atm.
and for that matter, how often have we ever seen a herald GET sniped anyways??
Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]So what was that again about Kyle being above skyfather level, when he can't even handle what Silver Surfer can? 🙄Oh but wait, GL's are so much more powerful than Heralds, right?
ummmm.....where did I say that??
Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]Keep in mind this is Silver Surfer before he got upgraded by Galactus during the Annihilation saga. Keep in mind that Surfer is far below a skyfather, as we see him get stomped when he tried to attack Odin.
so wait, where was that upgrade when SS got chumped by BP???
Originally posted by Kutulu
[B]Oh but wait, according to Nvr, Kyle is "skyfather level", so why was he, a "skyfather level" being, unable to do what Silver Surfer could do, a mere herald level being, of which, according to Nvr, each GL is [b]at least equal to.😆 Nvr you crack me up. I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff sometimes. Skyfather level. Bwahahahahahaha.
😂 🤣
ummmm...if U wanted to address that to Nvr, maybe U shoulda POSTED that in a rply to Nvr. ya think???
🙄 😉
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Kutulu
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GL_SS_UA_-_0046.jpgHmmm that's funny, because a certain comic book company says that [b]you are wrong.
Oh and by the way: "I can't contain it all". I have proved, with this scan, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are wrong. If Kyle was so leagues above a herald in strength, then he would not have needed a herald to help him out. End of story.
Kyle couldn't hold Imperiex indefinitely either. Surfer has manipulated the big crunch, the equivilant to more than a big bang energy (it's the equivilant of manipulating the source wall). It severely hurt him, but he did it. So there goes your theory, down the drain. You lose, try again. [/B]
but U mis-interpret that scene: sure Kyle couldnt contain all of those energies as he did....becuz GLs dont contain energy w/in their bodies. if he'd tried to do the same feat using the Ring that couldve/wouldve been a diff story.
but also, Id like to address the fact that the above feat as mark against Kyle is rendered BUSTED by the fact that Hal Jordan absorbed the entire CPB (at the end of _ET_ when he becomes Parallax), which in turn facilitated the enlistment of Kyle to be a GL, and then later on he does the same when he absorbs the Oblivion and a significant amount of Parallaxs energies to become Ion the 1st time.......and THOSE energies prove to be enuff to refill the CPB.
so right there ya got 2 instances where GLs have done wat U claimed they couldnt.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Some say a Big Crunch later becomes a Big Bang
quite so; according to our current understanding the Universal Expansion will eventually halt and Gravity will start pulling everything back in........all coming together into a single mass which will explode outward again and the whole cycle begins again.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazerno u are flat out wrong. i haven t see n many green lanterns that can hang with the silver surfer,morg,firelord, or the fallen one. for the most part gl's are cannon fodder.
Yo.most of the 1's who die are, like any force involving more than 5, nameless and meant to show scope moreso than anything else.
heralds arent any better or worse in that regard, and insofar as power goes the only way U can argue that heralds R more powerful is if U have yur head up yur keister; hell, GLs might even have the bigger displays of power at that.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
no u are flat out wrong. i haven t see n many green lanterns that can hang with the silver surfer,morg,firelord, or the fallen one. for the most part gl's are cannon fodder.
flat out wrong eh?? PROVE IT.
if the Heralds can be caught by the Skrulls, and SS himself beaten 1-on-1 by a Skrull, then I dont see how U come by that estimation.
and just so's ya know: that no-name GLs end up as cannon fodder isnt saying much of a damn thing.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazerho wlong did it take the awave to caprute how many heralds. think about it. green lanters get smoked in record time during a crisis. cannon fodder.
Yo.flat out wrong eh?? PROVE IT.
if the Heralds can be caught by the Skrulls, and SS himself beaten 1-on-1 by a Skrull, then I dont see how U come by that estimation.
and just so's ya know: that no-name GLs end up as cannon fodder isnt saying much of a damn thing.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
ho wlong did it take the awave to caprute how many heralds. think about it. green lanters get smoked in record time during a crisis. cannon fodder.
I have no idea how long; I didnt read much of it beyond the Nova -mini.
and of course, thats not PROOF, now is it??
and since U wanna focus on them being "cannon fodder" do U think ALL of the GLs would get taken down easy, or just the no-names??
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazeri feel like when a mjor threat hits dc that green lanterns fail miserably. the no names fall easily. hal jordan and kyle rayner are very powerful. but the rest for the most part are filler.
Yo.I have no idea how long; I didnt read much of it beyond the Nova -mini.
and of course, thats not PROOF, now is it??
and since U wanna focus on them being "cannon fodder" do U think ALL of the GLs would get taken down easy, or just the no-names??
Tazer
Originally posted by quanchi112
i feel like when a mjor threat hits dc that green lanterns fail miserably. the no names fall easily. hal jordan and kyle rayner are very powerful. but the rest for the most part are filler.
It's obvious you dont' even know the Gls. There are more GL's who are powerful and have feats of thier own. You can't even name them.
