Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I do, because he writes music as well as more strict 'songs'. It's not to do with quality, but form.I think songwriting refers to writing short-ish songs that are perfectly realised, rather than longer passages of music or extended songs.
That's how I interpret it, anyway.
...as was my intention. But, I left it open ended, and as such leaves it open to interpretation.
It's funny, when anybody asks you to prove anything of value, you crap your pants, yet the one thing you continually provide proof for without request, is your complete musical ignorance and idiocy.
The idea that you believe Prince doesn't belong in this thread is a belief that will get you laughed at far more harder than anyone would question Prince.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's funny, when anybody asks you to prove anything of value, you crap your pants, yet the one thing you continually provide proof for without request, is your complete musical ignorance and idiocy.The idea that you believe Prince doesn't belong in this thread is a belief that will get you laughed at far more harder than anyone would question Prince.
-AC
Oh yeah I crap my pants at not giving responses to your irrelevant request . Well… even if I did/do "crap my pants"... at least I don't blatantly lie about things when backed into at corner, you pathetic worm. Oh yeah you speak of ignorance, perhaps I am ignorant about many aspects of musical knowledge. Well at least I don't think I am highly knowledgeable like you to, nor do I harbor a completely false belief that I have an elevated musical aesthetical taste. You see genius…the fact that you think you know so much just proves how idiotic you are. Oh and yeah who cares if you and all the other musical gurus on KMC laugh at me? .... ermmmm... well I will let you answer that one. Musical taste is all subjective, yes? So why do you feel the need to tell somebody to “get out”when she/he calls Jewel the "best song writer"? Then when you say "prince" and I say “get out” your pink panties get wet. The point is Prince is far from the "best song writer" in my opinion, Jewel is in both yours and mine. What a hypocritical and pathetic little music aficionado you are, dolt.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Oh yeah I crap my pants at not giving responses to your irrelevant request . Well… even if I did/do "crap my pants"... at least I don't blatantly lie about things when backed into at corner, you pathetic worm. Oh yeah you speak of ignorance, perhaps I am ignorant about many aspects of musical knowledge. Well at least I don't think I am highly knowledgeable like you to, nor do I harbor a completely false belief that I have an elevated musical aesthetical taste. You see genius…the fact that you think you know so much just proves how idiotic you are. Oh and yeah who cares if you and all the other musical gurus on KMC laugh at me? .... ermmmm... well I will let you answer that one. Musical taste is all subjective, yes? So why do you feel the need to tell somebody to “get out”when she/he calls Jewel the "best song writer"? Then when you say "prince" and I say “get out” your pink panties get wet. The point is Price is far from the "best song writer" in my opinion, Jewel is in both yours and mine. What a hypocritical and pathetic little music aficionado you are, dolt.
The hilarious thing is, you've blatantly been bottling that up for weeks on end of your daily life, just waiting for the opportunity where you could come online and let some guy know what you thought of him, then claim how you don't really care. Sitting in your chair at home, listening to a Dido CD whilst gripping the arms of a chair and staring at your comp, finding it unbearable that I am living my life free of care for your existence.
Such a sad, sad man.
Furthermore, my "Get out." reply was at Robbie Williams, who doesn't actually write songs. Nor was it a serious request, she doesn't actually have to get out. Additionally, me saying "Get out." doesn't contradict the fact that music taste is subjective, in any way. I'm not telling her she's wrong to like him, I was telling her - far from seriously - to get out because she suggested someone who OBJECTIVELY isn't a songwriter, and is SUBJECTIVELY shit.
Prince, however, is a songwriter. One of the most revered, respected, prolific, skilled and lauded songwriters of all time, on top of that. So you'd have been better off picking someone who wasn't a shoe-in for the thread, your retort to prove the point would have been better that way.
Still using "dolt"? Nice, nice. Have a good day.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The hilarious thing is, you've blatantly been bottling that up for weeks on end of your daily life, just waiting for the opportunity where you could come online and let some guy know what you thought of him, then claim how you don't really care. Sitting in your chair at home, listening to a Dido CD whilst gripping the arms of a chair and staring at your comp, finding it unbearable that I am living my life free of care for your existence.Such a sad, sad man.
Hahahaha. You make me laugh friend. At least you bring something to the world besides tons of hypocrisy and a false image of wisdom. Bottling what up ? I've always freely told you what a dolt you are.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Furthermore, my "Get out." reply was at Robbie Williams, who doesn't actually write songs. Nor was it a serious request, she doesn't actually have to get out. Additionally, me saying "Get out." doesn't contradict the fact that music taste is subjective, in any way. I'm not telling her she's wrong to like him, I was telling her - far from seriously - to get out because she suggested someone who OBJECTIVELY isn't a songwriter, and is SUBJECTIVELY shit.
Nice way to TRY to cover your ass…sorry no dice. Nice how you get to decide who is a "song writer" and who isn’t, arrogant prick. It's only "subjective" if you agree, yes?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Prince, however, is a songwriter. One of the most revered, respected, prolific, skilled and lauded songwriters of all time, on top of that. So you'd have been better off picking someone who wasn't a shoe-in for the thread, your retort to prove the point would have been better that way.
That's your personal reason for considering him a great song writer? Because others do? Umkay... whatever feeds your notion that you have good taste in music.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Still using "dolt"? Nice, nice. Have a good day.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Hahahaha. You make me laugh friend. At least you bring something to the world besides tons of hypocrisy and a false image of wisdom. Bottling what up ? I've always freely told you what a dolt you are.
Yes, and that's all very nice, 2D. You should be very proud.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Nice way to TRY to cover your ass…sorry no dice. Nice how you get to decide who is a "song writer" and who isn’t, arrogant prick. It's only "subjective" if you agree, yes?
What...? Songwriter = someone who writes songs. If you don't write songs, how are you a songwriter?
Do you genuinely want to get into this? There are probably people here who DON'T think you're a total idiot, so if you wish to remove all doubt, we can continue.
How can you be a songwriter if you do not write songs? I'm curious.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
That's your personal reason for considering him a great song writer? Because others do? Umkay... whatever feeds your notion that you have good taste in music.
No, that's me telling you why you'd have been better off not picking someone who is ACTUALLY a songwriter to counter my telling her to get out for naming someone who isn't a songwriter. Robbie Williams isn't, so she was wrong. In retaliation and defense, you said the same to me...regarding Prince...who is an actual songwriter. On top of that, you automatically assumed I was referring to her mentioning Jewel.
I think Jewel is a horrible songwriter, but she's a songwriter nonetheless, and if Yvonne choose to name her as her choice, that's fine by me. Robbie Williams isn't actually a songwriter, though.
Again, you seem to think who is and who isn't a songwriter is subjective. Maybe you can tell us why. Thought the profession or trade of being a "songwriter" seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Apparantly, though, you don't need to write songs to be one. So please, go on.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, and that's all very nice, 2D. You should be very proud.What...? Songwriter = someone who writes songs. If you don't write songs, how are you a songwriter?
Do you genuinely want to get into this? There are probably people here who DON'T think you're a total idiot, so if you wish to remove all doubt, we can continue.
How can you be a songwriter if you do not write songs? I'm curious.
No, that's me telling you why you'd have been better off not picking someone who is ACTUALLY a songwriter to counter my telling her to get out for naming someone who isn't a songwriter. Robbie Williams isn't, so she was wrong. In retaliation and defense, you said the same to me...regarding Prince...who is an actual songwriter. On top of that, you automatically assumed I was referring to her mentioning Jewel.
I think Jewel is a horrible songwriter, but she's a songwriter nonetheless, and if Yvonne choose to name her as her choice, that's fine by me. Robbie Williams isn't actually a songwriter, though.
Again, you seem to think who is and who isn't a songwriter is subjective. Maybe you can tell us why. Thought the profession or trade of being a "songwriter" seems pretty self-explanatory to me. Apparantly, though, you don't need to write songs to be one. So please, go on.
-AC
Dolt stop TRY to cover your ass. You responded to her whole post saying "get out". Be more specific next time. I typed "jewel" to avoid typing out "Jewel, Roby Williams...blah blah" in my responses. Either way, you're the one who typed a simple "get out". Just stop trying to cover your barse arse and get back to topic already.
(hopefully you won't be so quick to tell somebody to "get out"😉
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Dolt stop TRY to cover your ass. You responded to her whole post saying "get out". Be more specific next time. I typed "jewel" to avoid typing out "Jewel, Roby Williams...blah blah" in my responses. Either way, you're the one who typed a simple "get out". Just stop trying to cover your barse arse and get back to topic already.(hopefully you won't be so quick to tell somebody to "get out"😉
You were the one who dived into it and picked the wrong person, you are the one who should stop assuming. Be less idiotic next time, be less lazy next time. I'm not responsible for your interpretations. You typed it because you're a trolling fool who, far from caring about what I'd said, simply wanted an argument and once again got shown up. I'm not trying to cover anything, you were wrong, you made stupid and incorrect points and I exposed them as always, causing you to wanting to scurry back on topic, which I suspect you'll then not consider "relevant".
I love how now you're entirely dodging everything else, but I'll afford you the quick escape this time and move on;
Civil question; how can you be a songwriter if you don't write songs?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You were the one who dived into it and picked the wrong person, you are the one who should stop assuming. Be less idiotic next time, be less lazy next time. I'm not responsible for your interpretations. You typed it because you're a trolling fool who, far from caring about what I'd said, simply wanted an argument and once again got shown up. I'm not trying to cover anything, you were wrong, you made stupid and incorrect points and I exposed them as always, causing you to wanting to scurry back on topic, which I suspect you'll then not consider "relevant".I love how now you're entirely dodging everything else, but I'll afford you the quick escape this time and move on;
Civil question; how can you be a songwriter if you don't write songs?
-AC
Oh yes, I am the one dodging things. First off I won't continue any long if you expect me to know that you meant something to the effect of " What? Robbie Williams isn’t a song writer. Get out!" when you merely wrote "Get out." Explain yourself better next time. You see my "get out " post was made knowing that you would just be a hypocrite and claim me thinking Price wasn’t a "great song writer" was” proof “ of how musically “ignorant” I was/am. Of course you did exactly what I thought you would do, congratulations. You went off about how ignorant and idiotic I was for telling you to "get out". Now you're trying to cover your ass and claim that you only meant Rob Williams, (not Jewel and blah blah )because he is not a "song writer" and blah blah blah. You lose, so just shut up if you're going to feed me a bunch of shit and ignore your intent ambiguous "get out" post. Now I am off work, have fun listening to Price, aficionado.
AC, it's time to claim I left because I "can't handle" you.
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Oh yes, I am the one dodging things. First off I won't continue any long if you expect me to know that you meant something to the effect of " What? Robbie Williams isn’t a song writer. Get out!" when you merely wrote "Get out." Explain yourself better next time. You see my "get out " post was made knowing that you would just be a hypocrite and claim me thinking Price wasn’t a "great song writer" was” proof “ of how musically “ignorant” I was/am. Of course you did exactly what I thought you would do, congratulations. You went off about how ignorant and idiotic I was for telling you to "get out". Now you're trying to cover your ass and claim that you only meant Rob Williams, (not Jewel and blah blah )because he is not a "song writer" and blah blah blah. You lose, so just shut up if you're going to feed me a bunch of shit and ignore your intent ambiguous "get out" post. Now I am off work, have fun listening to Price, aficionado.AC, it's time to claim I left because I "can't handle" you.
I don't need to claim anything, you are all the proof I need.
I didn't need to explain myself, you made poor assumptions, wrong claims, stupid statements and when I asked you to answer a question based on one such retarded claim, oh look, it's time for you to leave, as it always is when I ask you something you're too embarassed to answer. You haven't got the time to explain how you can be a songwriter without writing songs, but you've got the time to be abusive and reply as a troll would, most odd.
You obviously don't like Prince, so you said what you did whilst assuming that I told her to get out because she likes people who aren't to my taste. I didn't, I told her to get out cos she mentioned someone who is shit (SUBJECTIVE.) and not a songwriter (OBJECTIVE.). You then tried telling me I thought I had the right to decide who is and isn't a songwriter, then when asked how Robbie Williams would count, not writing any songs, you shy away like a coward because you can't answer, you're scared to answer and you know it.
You are a very silly boy who blames everyone else for his idiocy.
I don't need to "cover" anything, you prove everything I say about you correct.
-AC