Thanos(with individual Infinity Gems) vs Darkseid · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because they weren't equal to Pre Crisis Supes at the time. Until their planet got moved they weren't all that different than humans overall. And since there was only 3 billion of them, it means that DS taking control over them(while impressive) is no more impressive than any other telepath with enough power to mess with the heads of everyone on Earth. In fact since there's MORE people on Earth than there was on Daxam, anyone who dominates Earth has a better feat to their credit than DS has from the Daxamites.

this makes a lot of sense here. very good points. this feat isnt all that impressive anymore. another feat taking a hit here. moves down a few notches. but it doesnt count anyways as it hasnt happened yet.

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nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
this makes a lot of sense here. very good points. this feat isnt all that impressive anymore. another feat taking a hit here. moves down a few notches. but it doesnt count anyways as it hasnt happened yet.
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The feat actually is better. Becuz he took over them and held them as they got more powerful under a yellow sun. you FAIL.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The feat actually is better. Becuz he took over them and held them as they got more powerful under a yellow sun. you FAIL.

he dominated no one special mentally in this sotry and lost as he always does. this feat doenst count and it isnt as impressive now that goober proved that point. any powerful telepath could do this. sorry but the feat isnt that impressive.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The feat actually is better. Becuz he took over them and held them as they got more powerful under a yellow sun. you FAIL.

Even if you were right about it being harder to sustain control over someone after you've broken their will and altered the way there mind works(which you're not), it still wouldn't be MORE impressive than most people think, because then he just did what everyone originally acted like....he dominated 3 billion PC Supes level beings(with no feats to their credit to suggest a high level of resistance to tp). But again, it's easier to sustain control over someone who's mind has been completely broken than to get control over the person in the first place.

quanchi112 Disney

yes 3 billion nobodys. no one who had any feats whatsoever in the future that hasnt happened yet. feat doesnt count anyways and if it did it doesnt carry as much weight.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Well if it's so easy to hold on to someone after they have been taken control of, then how come thor has broken lose, The jla has broken lose, hell no Tp in the history of comics has held on to any one forever. I am inclined to think that it's harder to keep control. The only person I know who can keep hold on beings indefinitely is Despero.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well if it's so easy to hold on to someone after they have been taken control of, then how come thor has broken lose, The jla has broken lose, hell no Tp in the history of comics has held on to any one forever. I am inclined to think that it's harder to keep control. The only person I know who can keep hold on beings indefinitely is Despero.

prof x could do better. i feel onslaught could most def as well. sorry but this feat isnt that impressive.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well if it's so easy to hold on to someone after they have been taken control of, then how come thor has broken lose, The jla has broken lose, hell no Tp in the history of comics has held on to any one forever. I am inclined to think that it's harder to keep control. The only person I know who can keep hold on beings indefinitely is Despero.

Could it be that the heroes always break mental control that way there'll be another issue of the comic? Now there's a real mind bender for you...

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by darthgoober

No we have perspective on his faded, and then amped up power. It's still inadmissible under forum rules until he does it(I know because I checked with Digi).

Yeah.....screw Digi. 😛 And he's wrong. I'll take the opinions of Batdude, Galan, WD, Avalon, Estacado and Skeets over you and Digi. you guys plainly don't know DC if you think Thanos ever compares to Darkseid in terms of his personal power.

The GDS feats are admissable, as a measure of Darkseid's power. And his powers weren't amped, SINCE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE WASN'T ANYWHERE NEAR HIS FULL POWER EVEN AFTER ABSORBING MORDRU AND THE CONTROLLER.

you think that 3 billion is nothing? 🤨 Let's see anyone under skyfather pull that feat.

Quanchi: Onslaught could not control 3 billion Daxamites, especially under a yellow sun. Nor could Prof. X.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Yeah.....screw Digi. 😛 And he's wrong. I'll take the opinions of Batdude, Galan, WD, Avalon, Estacado and Skeets over you and Digi. you guys plainly don't know DC if you think Thanos ever compares to Darkseid in terms of his personal power.
The GDS feats are admissable, as a measure of Darkseid's power. And his powers weren't amped, SINCE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE WASN'T ANYWHERE NEAR HIS FULL POWER EVEN AFTER ABSORBING MORDRU AND THE CONTROLLER.
you think that 3 billion is nothing? 🤨 Let's see anyone under skyfather pull that feat.
Quanchi: Onslaught could not control 3 billion Daxamites, especially under a yellow sun. Nor could Prof. X.

nope its just a dc fanatic gets mad when people say thanos whoops his ass when he does. superman whoops his ass doomsday whoops his ass.

lookey here scanss to back up my fact based logic.

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HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VILLAIN LOOK SO HELPLESS AND SCARED LIKE THIS BEFORE.

quanchi112 Disney

oh and onslaught wouldnt have lost them. hes more of a telepath than ds will ever be, and gds doesnt count becuz it hasnt happened yet.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Yeah.....screw Digi. 😛 And he's wrong. I'll take the opinions of Batdude, Galan, WD, Avalon, Estacado and Skeets over you and Digi. you guys plainly don't know DC if you think Thanos ever compares to Darkseid in terms of his personal power.
The GDS feats are admissable, as a measure of Darkseid's power. And his powers weren't amped, SINCE HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE WASN'T ANYWHERE NEAR HIS FULL POWER EVEN AFTER ABSORBING MORDRU AND THE CONTROLLER.

You don't seem to get it Trick, the only question is whether or not the GDS falls under the heading of an alternate version by forum rules and in regards to what is or isn't against forum rules, I'll take the word of a mod over the word of a member ANY day.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
you think that 3 billion is nothing? 🤨 Let's see anyone under skyfather pull that feat.

I never said it was nothing(in fact I said it was impressive), I just said it wasn't as impressive as someone doing the same thing to the planet Earth due to Earth having a higher population.

llagrok Restricted

Tp, Professor x can't do it because of Magneto.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by llagrok
Tp, Professor x can't do it because of Magneto.

Wouldnt' he still need cerebro to accomplish the feat?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by darthgoober
You don't seem to get it Trick, the only question is whether or not the GDS falls under the heading of an alternate version by forum rules and in regards to what is or isn't against forum rules, I'll take the word of a mod over the word of a member ANY day.
I never said it was nothing(in fact I said it was impressive), I just said it wasn't as impressive as someone doing the same thing to the planet Earth due to Earth having a higher population.

whos word would i take i mod or a dc fanatic who loves ds. hmmmmmmmmmm

a mod?

starking African nipple cobra

Originally posted by darthgoober
You can't impartially hold one standard true for DS and then hold everyone else to a different standard. I mean come on, either we're all drinking from the same water fountain or not...

Lmao, like we really can compare two different character's, with DIFFERENT powersets. 🙄

Originally posted by darthgoober
His powers waned OVER THE MILLENNIUM, that means that they faded with time.

Nah really. That doesn't SPECIFICALLY state that Ds was weakened by age. His power could of wanned by anything, him lossing it by age, is just plain RIDICULOUS! Seeing how he's....immortal.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Good then we won't be hearing that DS's current incarnation defeated his future self from the GDS in combat anymore...

I suppose.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't care if it's the same character or not, it's his FUTURE self which means that DS's current incarnation doesn't have the feats to his credit. I understand why it seems like it SHOULD be considered valid because of the complex nature of the New Gods, that's why I asked Digi whether or not the GDS would qualify as being an alternate version under forum rules. And you know what, it does. That means that the feats are inadmissible to DS's current incarnation.

Here's the problem, Digi's ruling is more of an opinion than a actual rule. Just because it came from a mod's mouth, doesn't make it fact. Secondly, Digi's well, retired if I'm not mistaken. Thirdly, the character is STILL the same person, and he was supposed to be weaker than his 20th centurary self. So how can you not give him credit, for those feats? We know the Gds existed, it's no illusion just a different timeline. People effected by the alterization of time, will not remeber the experiance. When the outcome of time is changed, it merely reshapes what already exist. Here's the challenge, find some context that says his powerset was somehow different, then you maybe on to something.

Originally posted by darthgoober
BTW, when I looked through the GDS again to find that scan of him stating that his powers waned over time I noticed something interesting. When DS took control of Daxam, the planet was orbiting a red sun. That means that he NEVER took control over 3 billion Pre Crisis Superman level beings in that arc, he took control over 3 billion HUMAN level beings because none of them had ANY powers until DS transported the planet so that it would orbit a yellow sun(which is what bumped them up to Pre Crisis Supes level).

Hmmm, maybe your right. Thing is, HE HELD CONTROL OF THEM. Say what you want, but very few can replicate that feat.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by starking
Lmao, like we really can compare two different character's, with DIFFERENT powersets. 🙄
Nah really. That doesn't SPECIFICALLY state that Ds was weakened by age. His power could of wanned by anything, him lossing it by age, is just plain RIDICULOUS! Seeing how he's....immortal.
I suppose.
Here's the problem, Digi's ruling is more of an opinion than a actual rule. Just because it came from a mod's mouth, doesn't make it fact. Secondly, Digi's well, retired if I'm not mistaken. Thirdly, the character is STILL the same person, and he was supposed to be weaker than his 20th centurary self. So how can you not give him credit, for those feats? We know the Gds existed, it's no illusion just a different timeline. People effected by the alterization of time, will not remeber the experiance. When the outcome of time is changed, it merely reshapes what already exist. Here's the challenge, find some context that says his powerset was somehow different, then you maybe on to something.
Hmmm, maybe your right. Thing is, HE HELD CONTROL OF THEM. Say what you want, but very few can replicate that feat.

ask and ye shall receive.

here ur source saying it altered his abilities.

In the Great Darkness Saga, Darkseid survived into the 30th century. Having been forgotten by almost everyone, he defeated the era's two most powerful villains (Mordru and the Time Trapper) and absorbed their powers, subsequently using those abilities to enslave the entire population of the planet Daxam!!!!!!!!

alternate and it hasnt happened yet means it doesnt count.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by starking
Lmao, like we really can compare two different character's, with DIFFERENT powersets. 🙄

I'm not comparing the characters, I'm comparing the standard that's being applied to DS. Either the standard is the same, or you're playing favorites one way or the other.

Originally posted by starking
Nah really. That doesn't SPECIFICALLY state that Ds was weakened by age. His power could of wanned by anything, him lossing it by age, is just plain RIDICULOUS! Seeing how he's....immortal.

They didn't slap you across the face with a fish to get their point across, but the phrase My powers have waned over the Millennium seems to be a pretty clear indication IMO. Again if we hold the same standard to a different character(we'll use Silver Surfer) and he says "My control over the Power Cosmic has grown weaker over the years" what does that say to you? And again, Runner was immortal(and billions of years old) and the Time Gem still took him out.

Originally posted by starking
I suppose.

Cool.

Originally posted by starking
Here's the problem, Digi's ruling is more of an opinion than a actual rule. Just because it came from a mod's mouth, doesn't make it fact. Secondly, Digi's well, retired if I'm not mistaken. Thirdly, the character is STILL the same person, and he was supposed to be weaker than his 20th centurary self. So how can you not give him credit, for those feats? We know the Gds existed, it's no illusion just a different timeline. People effected by the alterization of time, will not remeber the experiance. When the outcome of time is changed, it merely reshapes what already exist. Here's the challenge, find some context that says his powerset was somehow different, then you maybe on to something.

No Digi's ruling is nothing more than clarification of Forum policy. That means that all he was doing was stating whether or not a specific arc fell under the heading of an "Alternate Version". That's aways been where confusion came into play, because people didn't KNOW whether or not it fell under that heading, but now we do. If we don't trust the mods to explain what is or is not against the rules, then who should we turn to?

Originally posted by starking
Hmmm, maybe your right. Thing is, HE HELD CONTROL OF THEM. Say what you want, but very few can replicate that feat.

Didn't say it wasn't impressive, just that it wasn't as impressive as people have been saying.

starking African nipple cobra

Originally posted by quanchi112
ask and ye shall receive.
here ur source saying it altered his abilities.
In the Great Darkness Saga, Darkseid survived into the 30th century. Having been forgotten by almost everyone, he defeated the era's two most powerful villains (Mordru and the Time Trapper) and absorbed their powers, subsequently using those abilities to enslave the entire population of the planet Daxam!!!!!!!!
alternate and it hasnt happened yet means it doesnt count.

Wow, copying and pasting from Wikipedia again. How predictable, anyone with reading comprhesion skills, can tell that means Seid did those feats, when he absorbed their power(and he wasn't even at his peak). You can't say Ds is incapable of those feats, because we've seen him do similar outside of that story. Oh and Quan, stop responding to me, your a joke, a hypocrite, and a exaggerator. Your not worthy of my time and effort.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by starking
Wow, copying and pasting from Wikipedia again. How predictable, anyone with reading comprhesion skills, can tell that means Seid did those feats, when he absorbed their power(and he wasn't even at his peak). You can't say Ds is incapable of those feats, because we've seen him do similar outside of that story. Oh and Quan, stop responding to me, your a joke, a hypocrite, and a exaggerator. Your not worthy of my time and effort.

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oh starking i just showed u up. dont be angry im here arguing, it make perfect sense that if u abosrb all these powers and especially an abstract with no end in his lifespan that u will rdically alter ur own powers. wiki agrees becuz its common sense. and ur insults have no effect on me.

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