Pre-retcon Molecule Man vs Spectre and Michael or Lucifer

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl19 pages

Originally posted by Air Legend
And thus the circle begins again. 🙄

Classic MM wins. Everyone on this board agrees except nvr, but intransigence doesn't count. If nobody else is going to argue against this, then I don't see the point of continuing this thread since we are all in unanimous agreement.

everyone on the board does not agree. You can't even show me one thing on panel that shows the MM doing anything remotely as powerful as the things the LT has done. you can't even show me a retcon of the LT. You can't even provide a panel of the Mm beating the LT. Thus your whole argument is really based upon the LT's power and you pretty fail anyway you look at it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
everyone on the board does not agree. You can't even show me one thing on panel that shows the MM doing anything remotely as powerful as the things the LT has done. you can't even show me a retcon of the LT. You can't even provide a panel of the Mm beating the LT. Thus your whole argument is really based upon the LT's power and you pretty fail anyway you look at it.

This fails. If everybody used this kind of logic, we'd be saying Mxy is greater than the Presence. 🙄

Originally posted by Air Legend
This fails. If everybody used this kind of logic, we'd be saying Mxy is greater than the Presence. 🙄

Your desperation is evident. Mxy is a creation of the presence, as it's already been established the everything was created by him in DC. Now shut up and show me a retcon of the LT cuz as far as I'm concerned he's always been 2nd only to god which means the molecule man was NEVER more powerful than he. Or The LT was retconned and Mm was more powerful, but the LT is far more powerful now. you can't have you cake and eat it too. Trying to use that bullshit of two versions of characters to justify. Dumb dumb dumb. And you fall for that bullshit.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Hypocrite. You keep evading the fact that you are implying Celestials are greater than Classic MM. Seeing how you keep saying the same shit over and over without actually answering my questions I see no point in continuing this debate.
Show me a scan or give me the issue and page # of the Spectre, Michael, and Lucifer cutting off someone's family tree.
Show me a scan stating Celestials are >> than MM.
Show me somebody besides PR Beyonder getting the best of MM after MM reached full potential, because there are plenty of instances of the Spectre, Michael, and Lucifer being "pwned".

Show me some proof or don't respond and concede that MM wins.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Why woudl you repost bullshit. i have already dismantled the pathetic thing you called an argument. Come harder. Come better or don't come at all.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Hypocrite. You keep evading the fact that you are implying Celestials are greater than Classic MM. Seeing how you keep saying the same shit over and over without actually answering my questions I see no point in continuing this debate.
Show me a scan or give me the issue and page # of the Spectre, Michael, and Lucifer cutting off someone's family tree.
Show me a scan stating Celestials are >> than MM.
Show me somebody besides PR Beyonder getting the best of MM after MM reached full potential, because there are plenty of instances of the Spectre, Michael, and Lucifer being "pwned".

Show me some proof or don't respond and concede that MM wins.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Come harder. Come better or don't come at all.

I thought this was a family oriented forum. 💃

Originally posted by Air Legend
LMAO. Can't even quote yourself correctly. Are you frustrated becuz you dont' have an answer to the conundrum? I'm sure you are.

What?

LMAO. You're the one who backed out of the debate coward. You seem perfectly fine debating with me when there are no stakes, but the moment there is, you crawl back in to that hole you came from hahaha.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, one thing, The LT has never been retconned, thus Reece isn't above the LT, which means the only thing reece has going for him is people using the LT as a shield, to what reece is supposed to be able to do. that fails on so many lvls.

You wrong on everything except the part where you say that the Living Tribunal never have been retconned.

In the 80's, during the Secret Wars arc Beyonder was supreme, followed by Reece.

There you have it on panel, Owen Reece was mightier than all other abstracts, until Beyonder came along.

And the LT can't beat mike. The LT has shown he doesn't have the will do certain things. Lucifer is Will. He'd use Lt's own power against him. Take the LT out of the equation becuz you can't use later showings of the lt as a marker to what Reece should be able to do, since you won't acknowlege that the LT has never been retconned, or he has, and thus he is far superior now than then.

I'm sensing the psychodynamical defense mechanism of projection.
I've always stayed clear on the fact that the Living Tribunal never was retconned. You on the other hand used to belive that the current Living Tribunal was retconned (stronger now than then).

Back on topic. Why do you say that I can't use later showings of the Living Tribunal when you yourself agreed on that he has never been retconned.
In other words, he was able to do it now, he was able to do it then.

Michael lacks the feats to compare with a being such as the Living Tribunal, and so does Lucifer.
Creating a Multiverse out of ones death, being able to shape--it's simply not enough.

heh...
Mole Man ftw. Spectre's power fluctuates too much, Lucifer doesn't have the power, and Michael would be defeated as well.

Originally posted by Air Legend
heh...
Mole Man ftw. Spectre's power fluctuates too much, Lucifer doesn't have the power, and Michael would be defeated as well.

he was a bit like lucifer. but his feats are confined to one multiverse. lucifer or micheal beat him.

Originally posted by Air Legend
heh...
Mole Man ftw. Spectre's power fluctuates too much, Lucifer doesn't have the power, and Michael would be defeated as well.
Agreed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
he was a bit like lucifer. but his feats are confined to one multiverse. lucifer or micheal beat him.

Of course you'd say Lucifer wins cuz you literally think Lucifer is greater than DC's "God". dur

And Michael loses as well.

MM has displayed more power than any of his opponents.

Like always, MM ftw.

MM can fight with PR Beyonder without getting totally anal fvcked, so he wins.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
MM can fight with PR Beyonder without getting totally anal fvcked, so he wins.
Lucifer can fight the power of God and not get totally ****ed. he wins. Mikey is the literal power of god. So he wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer can fight the power of God and not get totally ****ed. he wins. Mikey is the literal power of god. So he wins.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
FAIL. YOu fail.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer can fight the power of God and not get totally ****ed. he wins. Mikey is the literal power of god. So he wins.
Prove it please. 🙂

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Prove it please. 🙂
😂