Pre-retcon Molecule Man vs Spectre and Michael or Lucifer

Started by Mr Master19 pages
Originally posted by kevdude
Didn't TOAA/God tell the f4 thats how he looks to them?? He could look different to others.

What difference does it make?

Regardless of what he looked like he was God (an Artist)
and he had a Collaborator (the Writer)

This took place in Marvel Heaven, which is located Outside of Reality.

God/Toaa were depicted working on Marvel Comic book titles from Black Panther to Silver Surfer,
even Galactus was just a drawing on a piece of paper.

Originally posted by kevdude
He could look different to others.

Actually he said all of his creations see him this way.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The MM couldn't bring her back either. And The beyonder had to have someone sacrifice themselves if I am remembering. Obviously niether the beyonder nor the Mm were infinitely powerful. where as you have already stated that the LT is omnipotent. I am done with you. My point stands. The Lt is superior to either.
now he is but back then he wasnt. retcons kinda change things.

nvr is an intransigent fool that always gets owned by mr master.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which is it master/ did Warlock kill the abstracts or M bodies? either the IG isn't all the powerful and The user cant' tell the difference between m bodies and the real thing, or the Ig has no power over real abstracts. which doesn't make any sense, since we know eternity didn't want anyone to have the Ig. So It makes sense that Warlock was poweful enough to kill the abstracts and the LT brings them back with a wave of his hand. thus THe LT is far superior to classic beyonder or classic mM. Rebuttle? You either have to prove that the Ig is a worthless trinket and doesn't make one god or that The LT isn'at all that powerful and only reacreated the M bodies. which makes no sense since we know the abstracts can do that on thier own. which is it. enlighten us

hey why don't you try reading a comic book for once.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know you are kidding right? THe Spectre Blasted The AM with a Creation Destroying/Remaking Blast. Try again. You FAIL.

I should have pointed this out earlier. This wasn't even the Spectre's own power. This was when he was fueled by all the sorcerors. Pathetic. PR MM was way more impressive by himself.

Originally posted by Akuki
Just to clarify was the Universe creating and destroying blast by the spectre when he was under his own power or when he was fueled by all the sorcerors in the multiverse?

Yes it was. Should have answered this sooner.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
nvr is an intransigent fool that always gets owned by mr master.
you are master's whore **** who can't think for himself. my argument is valid you idiot. suck sucking nuts and start thinking.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
nvr is an intransigent fool that always gets owned by mr master.
👆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you are master's whore **** who can't think for himself. my argument is valid you idiot. suck sucking nuts and start thinking.

Maybe I should report this. You were warned yesterday...reporting you might temporarily ban you.

I say quit being intransigent for once and accept the sound logic that utterly owns you everytime.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Maybe I should report this. You were warned yesterday...reporting you might temporarily ban you.

I say quit being intransigent for once and accept the sound logic that utterly owns you everytime.

There was no logic. My logic is sound. MM has no feats to even begin to suggest he is in Any of these three's league. Now shall I report him bashing me first why dont' we all take a temp ban.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
There was no logic. My logic is sound. MM has no feats to even begin to suggest he is in Any of these three's league. Now shall I report him bashing me first why dont' we all take a temp ban.

He's wrong. I'm right. Sound logic 👆
Reported.

Air Legend, you started that one. Don't try to pass it off just because Nvr is one to react thusly. Next time it will be a warning.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Air Legend, you started that one. Don't try to pass it off just because Nvr is one to react thusly. Next time it will be a warning.

Just because I called him an intransigent fool doesn't give him the right to say "you are master's whore **** who can't think for himself. my argument is valid you idiot. suck sucking nuts and start thinking." Those are VERY different level of abuses. Letting this fly by like you have is unacceptable.

Spectre and Michael or Lucifer ftw, this is over kill.

I find it ridiculous how people use Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (and Beyonder) in versus matches , the main reason being that there shouldn't be such a thing as Pre-Retcon .
Either way , Spectre and Lucifer or Michael erase MM from existence .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I find it ridiculous how people use Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (and Beyonder) in versus matches , the main reason being that there shouldn't be such a thing as Pre-Retcon .
Either way , Spectre and Lucifer or Michael erase MM from existence .

I don't find- it is ridiculous how you think Spectre and Lucifer or Michael could erase MM from existence. Show me a scan of any of them doing a more impressive feat than PR MM.

Originally posted by Air Legend
I don't find- it is ridiculous how you think Spectre and Lucifer or Michael could erase MM from existence. Show me a scan of any of them doing a more impressive feat than PR MM.

Has PR MM ever gone up against Gods opposite? How about be in Deaths realm powerless and be able to kill her?? Or stand right in the middle of a big bang explosion and reform from nothing in mer seconds?

Originally posted by kevdude
Has PR MM ever gone up against Gods opposite?

He went up against the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe at the time.
Originally posted by kevdude
How about be in Deaths realm powerless and be able to kill her??

How about PR MM>all abstracts including LT.
Originally posted by kevdude Or stand right in the middle of a big bang explosion and reform from nothing in mer seconds?

How about MM shielding the Multiverse from being obliterated by the Beyonder's power. Also Galactus survived a big crunch. That feat is not impressive.

MM can take this.

1. loses
2. loses because he can't do it without this powers
3. Galactus had help to survive, and didn't the Beyonder not know about him shielding his powers?? If he did know he would have destroyed him, much like Michael would do.

So still loses

Originally posted by kevdude
1. loses
2. loses because he can't do it without this powers
3. Galactus had help to survive, and didn't the Beyonder not know about him shielding his powers?? If he did know he would have destroyed him, much like Michael would do.

So still loses

1. Duh. He was going up against the MOST powerful being.
2. What?
3. Beyonder fired and MM deflected. Don't try to belittle MM's power. MM was the second most powerful being in Marvel. Can Michael say the same? No.