Superboy Prime Vs...

Originally posted by pr1983
Ok, i'm bumping this for a good reason (well at least i think it is), because after reading back over IC i spotted something...

i'm just going to explain why i think Prime is at best, a slightly more powerful superman... and with his suit, pretty much a more powerful (but not to a huge extent) sundipped superman...

here goes:

In IC #6, just after Prime Returns, he has the following conversation with Alex:

and we learn that Prime had been imprisoned under a red sun for several years...

Now: How do we know that all that exposure to Red Sun didnt permanently change/reduce his powers? if he was so powerful why did he keep the suit after his return? Imo he needed the suit, as he wasn't as powerful as he'd been before... still powerful, yes, but easily lining planets up powerful? no...

and wasnt it just rann?

Let's look at what he did after he got back:

he fought Black Adam, and while he seemed to stand up well to Adam's punches, so have people like Superman and Marvel... he does punch Adam a decent distance, but he isn't the only one, for example Atom Smasher (JSA #27) did it, so its not a huge feat imo, given that Adam was only out of the fight because he'd been knocked too far away, and he was conscious in the next panel. we also see prime is resistant to magic, but thats earth one's magic, he could very well be vulnerable to his old earth's magic...

Then prime fought J'onn, and J'onn in the few panels it showed had as much of the fight as Prime had, and we only actually see j'onn go down on a screen behind batman in a later page...

then he fights superboy, and in the course of the fight superboy hits prime pretty hard, because he gives him a pretty bloody mouth, showing that kon-el was able to at least hurt prime... and conner is the one who rams prime into the tower...

then after a short fight with bart, prime heads to oa...

as we know, on his way he meets the GL corps led by guy, and he proceeds to kill several of them...

Now: how many of the GL's he killed were Hal or kyle level? very few by the looks of it, and let me ask this question:

A sundipped Superman (earth 1, kal-el) without holding back couldnt do the same?

hal destroys part of the armour, so its not invincible (as we later see)

so then the two superman grab him and drag him to krypton's old site (entirely unaware that prime's abilities may have been altered), and after going through rao (i think its called) they crash on a kryptonite covered mogo... with prime's armour destroyed, and the red sun draining his powers (as it does with the other two supermen), he proceeds to kill earth 2 superman, and then fights earth 1 superman, who beats him...

long story short, i believe prime as he is, without the suit is just a slightly more powerful superman... with the suit, he's pretty much permanently sundipped...

thats why i think if you put current Prime against the group i named (and not even all of them), prime would go down...

Superman-prime owned everyone in the sinestro corps war. He was actually NEVER beaten in that war. He was bfred.

He killed a guardian... how many people other than parallax or the am have done that?

Also, when he fought monarch, he was loosing power, and still managed to match monarch in power. This team will be decimated by Superman-prime. He is like superman without limits. As close to precrisis as dc will allow right now. Thats why no one has been able to match him (except monarch).

Originally posted by Sirius77
Superman-prime owned everyone in the sinestro corps war. He was actually NEVER beaten in that war. He was bfred.

He killed a guardian... how many people other than parallax or the am have done that?

Also, when he fought monarch, he was loosing power, and still managed to match monarch in power. This team will be decimated by Superman-prime. He is like superman without limits. As close to precrisis as dc will allow right now. Thats why no one has been able to match him (except monarch).

Prime started to do stuff after Pr's post that you quoted in SC... let alone his big feats - it's safe to say he was talking about Prime from IC.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
SBP fvcks them up the ass and then shows them videos of him fvcking their mothers up the ass.

stop please.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Threadstart - [b]Aug 15th, 2007
Post by Pr -Sep 1st, 2007

Prime started to do stuff after Pr's post that you quoted in SC... let alone his big feats - it's safe to say he was talking about Prime from IC. [/B]

aye... i just wanted to see if attitudes had changed at all...

This thread sucks.....uhuh

Superman sundipped--for the win....by himself

If superman was insane and went all out, he would do it by himself and not even need a sundip....imo

Originally posted by Estacado
This thread sucks.....uhuh

YOU suck... crackers

Originally posted by starlock
Superman sundipped--for the win....by himself

If superman was insane and went all out, he would do it by himself and not even need a sundip....imo

i agree that supes could do it by himself against a non amped prime, but thats just the two of us... and trick...

Originally posted by pr1983
i agree that supes could do it by himself against a non amped prime, but thats just the two of us... and trick...

Originally posted by pr1983
YOU suck... crackers

Originally posted by Estacado

uhuh

Even an insane sundipped superman isnt taking prime out seriously guys,prime destroys this team.

Originally posted by starlock
Superman sundipped--for the win....by himself

If superman was insane and went all out, he would do it by himself and not even need a sundip....imo

Superman sun dipped is easily more powerful than SBP (by more than billions of times). So he doesn't need anyone.

But adding WW is overkill because of the lasso.
Adding Hourman is overkill because of stopping time standing behind sundipped Superman.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Threadstart - [b]Aug 15th, 2007
Post by Pr -Sep 1st, 2007

Prime started to do stuff after Pr's post that you quoted in SC... let alone his big feats - it's safe to say he was talking about Prime from IC. [/B]

My bad... 🙁

Seriously. I dont think that superman has a chance here unless he stays in the sun for at least a year... maybe not even then.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Seriously. I dont think that superman has a chance here unless he stays in the sun for at least a year... maybe not even then.

SMP is only planetary strong and sundipped (for several minutes) Superman is galaxies strong.

Galaxies? What has he done galactically?

Also, Superman-prime is 'dimensions' strong, considering he punches through them regularly.

Originally posted by starlock
Superman sundipped--for the win....by himself

If superman was insane and went all out, he would do it by himself and not even need a sundip....imo

Originally posted by h1a8
SMP is only planetary strong and sundipped (for several minutes) Superman is galaxies strong.

Originally posted by h1a8
SMP is only planetary strong and sundipped (for several minutes) Superman is galaxies strong.

Action Comics #782: Superman’s greatest ever feat of raw power. After flying through the sun for an increase in power, Superman moves the planet WarWorld, home of Braniac. But there’s more. Braniac has stolen the energy of Imperiex. Imperiex gained his power from the consumption of thousands of whole galaxies since the dawn of time. Hence his universal reputation as the “Devourer of Galaxies”. It is argued that Braniac wasn’t resisting Superman’s push, and that Superman was “merely” moving a planet. This is directly contradicted by Braniac’s narrative: “Full thrust counter-measure! How is he moving my planet? The Kryptonian does not have that power!” The panel clearly shows the blue Imperiex energies firing from WarWorld’s engines. Yes, Superman was resisting the awesome Imperiex-begotten force, and pushed WarWorld through a boom tube to the beginning of time (big bang).
Note that this example confirms what we’ve suspected all along: that whatever the role that metabolized solar energy stores play in granting Superman his powers, he is obviously accessing power beyond that of the solar energies he can absorb (access to extra dimensional energy). A few minutes in the sun is piddling compared to galaxies of power. (All of Superman’s feats listed here exceed the energy he could have gleaned from 30 years of absorbed sunlight, BTW.) Also, John Byrne has already confirmed that Superman's power is psionic and it increases with his will. The amount of solar energy he's converted determines the amount of strength his psionic potential provides.

Originally posted by h1a8
SMP is only planetary strong and sundipped (for several minutes) Superman is galaxies strong.