I think this has been done before, and E.Ryu got the majority...
Why this was done again is beyond me...
DJins lasers are close to useless due to their lags (Yes even in the cutscenes they take time to fire) and alot of the non-canon feats Superboy relied on are irrelevant, since if we brig in non-canon material, then Evil Ryu can quite literally open up HUGE cans of whoop ass.
The only non-canon reference I mentioned was Jin getting a motorcycle explode on his face.
Devil Jin has been shown to blast Hwoarang's motorcycle with telekinesis. Even Devil Kazuya used Telekinesis to KO and battlefield remove Heihachi out of the honmaru.
Devil Jin HAS taken shots to the head and regained consciousness in less than a second. He did throw tekken force guys against walls and they hit them with such a force their bodies literally exploded. D. Jin smashed Heihachi through a brick wall and then smashed him harder against the ground and took flight out of the arena.
Even Devil Kazuya flew his way out of Honmaru's explosion at the end of T4. They are not limited to 3 seconds flight like in gameplay. That is an obvious gameplay restriction.
Heihachi himself, who does not posess the Devil gene, managed to survive the honmaru explosion. True he was unconscious while Tekken 5 took place. However I doubt an explosion of that caliber would be enough to destroy Devil Kazuya/Jin. Heck a KOed Kazuya was thrown into the mouth of a volcano and the G-corporation still found living tissue to clone/revive him.
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Yes this was done before, but times change and people's opinion's change. Quite in fact I was one of the main Evil Ryu supporters back then...now I am more neutral....but arguing for Jin because Evil Ryu supporters simply shout "SHUNGOKUSATSU FOR THE ****ING WIN."
Strength: Jin can break stone and steel with his fists, whereas Ryu could lift two boulders while normal, so taking that into account I say about even.
Speed: Jin is faster, and is definately faster while flying.
Durability: Jin, I can't think of a great Ryu durability feat.
Reach: Ryu's arms and legs are a bit longer so Ryu.
Range: Jin has those lasers and some kinda TK shit whereas Ryu has his hadokens, so it's about a tie.
Power: Jin's laser can cut a building in half, whereas Ryu's can bust a big ass hole in one, but Jin's laser takes time to fire, whereas hadouken doesn't, so Ryu.
Versatility: Ryu has many moves, so he wins this.
Intelligence: Don't know, but Jin is canonically now owner of Mishima Zaibatsu, so I guess he takes it.
Experience: Ryu takes this I believe, his whole life revolves around fighting and I think he's been in what? Over 1,000 fights?
Skill: Ryu has had more time to perfect his skills, so I say him.
Ryu takes this with difficulty.
Power I felt was right on, even tho Jin has lasers and telekinesis, his lasers are too slow to fire and telekinesis does not have the destructive capability of his hadoukens. Versatility is closer, but Ryu has too many different moves and ways to use them ,I can't name all his moves so I'll leave that to DSZ.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeBy moves I meant like his special or signature whatever moves he has in and out of gameplay.
He has all the moves...but I mean the potential of having actual flight, telekinesis and laser beams.Besides Jin has a shitload of moves himself, but I won't mention them because it is not worth it unless we're willing to enter just frame gameplay moves etc.
Hey, don't get me wrong, This fight I beleive is very close, but as V2D pointed out, E.Ryu does have a few more advantages, and remember, while Jin can fly, Ryu can teleport.
Ryu's also got the whole 3 techniques thing going, and a not quite optimal SGS to work with.
However, simply saying SGS FTW is retarded, since we don't know just how it would work on Jin, the guy's not exactly evil at heart... (Well now... I dunno... People who take over the Zaibatsu have a nasty habit of going evil.)
Oh it is definitely going to be close.
By the way V2D another thing I disagree with that I didn't catch before is about Evil Ryu being more experienced than Devil Jin.
That's wrong. Evil Ryu only appeared in Alpha 2-3(someone correct me about which was his canon appearance) So that version of Ryu does not have the experience of SF2 and SF3 Third Strike etc. Heck I could argue that during that time Ryu couldn't even lift the boulder, but I won't go that far.
Devil Jin on the other hand has been making appearances since Tekken 3.
This version of Ryu does not have more experience than Devil Jin. Not at all.