Actually, Evil Ryu only ever appeared Canonically for one instant, to deliver the Metsu Shoryuken to Sagat at the end of SFer1.
Evil Ryu that appears in the Alpha Games is a what-if character, and under that mentality, Evil Ryu will have all of Ryu's experience, since Evil ryu would have been in Ryu's place.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeDamn, good point. Alright, I guess experience would be equal then.
Oh it is definitely going to be close.By the way V2D another thing I disagree with that I didn't catch before is about Evil Ryu being more experienced than Devil Jin.
That's wrong. Evil Ryu only appeared in Alpha 2-3(someone correct me about which was his canon appearance) So that version of Ryu does not have the experience of SF2 and SF3 Third Strike etc. Heck I could argue that during that time Ryu couldn't even lift the boulder, but I won't go that far.
Devil Jin on the other hand has been making appearances since Tekken 3.
This version of Ryu does not have more experience than Devil Jin. Not at all.
Who says Gouki was not holding back and simply toying around with Ryu?
Exactly.
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Breaking huge chains after just waking up from being sedated and then go on to defeat a Devil-in-control Kazuya followed with Heihachi Mishima is more impressive since neither combatant was going to test Jin. They wanted to kill him and both failed miserably.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Yeah...but those are non-canon appearances. So...where will CvSNK Ryu be placed in the actual SF timeline?IMO it is somewhat silly to give Evil Ryu experience from non-canon tournaments etc.
IF the CVS2 tourney took place, I'd say it would be somewhere bitween SF2 and 3.
However, I didn't mean Experience, I only reffered to those characters for technique rather than EXP.
It will be really hard to kill a Devil.
Really really hard.
Heck Jin was shot in the head and that did not stop him from regaining his senses a second after and smashing people against walls with such a force their bodies exploded.
You are apparetely ignoring Devil Jin's ability to fly. His telekinesis. Him surviving getting motorcycles explode on his face(non-canon but still) etc.
All i have to say about Devil.
now back to topic:
Devil Jin and Evil ryu will be a tough fight for both, regardless of who wins. they both have a good shot at taking down the other but the fact remains that Jin's durability and stamina is in a word INSANE. getting shot in the head, being smashed by harly davidsons and the like puts me in Jin's court. then there are bits like exploding a bike using...well....whatever it was. from the looks of it he could blow up a bike while standing many yards away with waht seemed to be either an invisible projectile or him using tele-what-you-call-it.
and if its the D jin of his ending from T5, then all the more trouble. not only did regular Jin take down a person who could annihilate existence from this planet but if that Jin is getting an upgrade with devil powers mixed with Jinpachi's?! run for cover baby.
to take nothing away from Ryu, cutting open a behemoth like Sagat with a special attack is impressive..........but pit that against wrecking a forest.
still, with teleporation and projectiles Ryu can put up a pretty good fight. however, Jin can FLY and shoot beams.
as for the SGS, all that is good but you're talking about a guy who can fly, shoot beams and turn a lush green forest into a barren wasteland.
Devil Jin, 6/10.
~Sado
P.S. supes did you check out that post of mine in the videogame section its called King of fighters: blood and flames.
Existance wiping is overhype to the extreme............ Every indication was that Unleashed Jinpachi could end life on earth, not planet popping and certainly not reality ending...
Anyways... E.Ryu has teleportation, speed, overwhelming strength, superior energy manip, and experience advantages all on his side, the only actual advantage DJ has here is flight... and Ryu's dealt with fliers before, Most notably, Bison.
Durability against bullets is one thing... durability against getting nearly torn in half? thats something else...
E.Ryu 6/10..
All of existence is referring to all living things in existence...
Speed isn't as great as DJ's. "Overwhelming strength" is also something DJ has though even more of. In addition DJ has a list of better feats than E. Ryu (Withstanding bullets, an exploding mortocycle, destroying a forest, cutting a huge skyscraper in half in a mere split second, etc.) Devil Jin, once again, can use telekinetic force to crush E. Ryu from a distance by simply putting his hand out...just what would E. Ryu do about that anyway.
Must agree with what Sado said. IF this is DJ from his T5 Ending this would be an utter curbstomp at the very least.
DJ 6.7/10
T5 Ending DJ 10/10
Originally posted by Guilty Gear
Yeah, a guy who can't even take out a cyborg and bleeds by having a beer bottle smashed on his head, can take the force that crushes an entire forest and beams that cut clean through huge skyscrapers. 🙄
You are talking about the un-canon Ryu from the anime.
I talk about the game version. The one who lifted an enormous boulder with a hand. I have not seen Devil Jin do anything close with his pure strenght. And Ryu is also faster than Devil Jin.
You are talking about Devil Jin´s special moves, what about his psycical stats?
The un-canon Ryu from the anime happens to have all of the traits and characteristics of canon Ryu, as stated by Capcom themselves, assuming Capcom fans haven't been lying about that. Oh and if you discount that version you're basically toning Ryu down in the long run.
Lifting a boulder does not compare to the feats I've listed dude. What? Faster? Basing speed purely off of gameplay again? 😂
His physical stats, such as his durability and destructive power have been talked about in my second to last post. His speed has been mentioned on the first page as well. Look, you don't have to agree that DJ would win as it's my opinion as well as other's. You can believe E. Ryu would win this. Who would win is more of an opinion than anything.
Originally posted by Guilty Gear
The un-canon Ryu from the anime happens to have all of the traits and characteristics of canon Ryu, as stated by Capcom themselves, assuming Capcom fans haven't been lying about that. Oh and if you discount that version you're basically toning Ryu down in the long run.Lifting a boulder does not compare to the feats I've listed dude. What? Faster? Basing speed purely off of gameplay again? 😂
His physical stats, such as his durability and destructive power have been talked about in my second to last post. His speed has been mentioned on the first page as well. Look, you don't have to agree that DJ would win as it's my opinion as well as other's. You can believe E. Ryu would win this. Who would win is more of an opinion than anything.
STRENGHT: Ryu wins
Ryu lifted a giant boulder with one hand.
That´s just the first feat that hits my mind. Can you come with one example where Devil Jin can compare in strenght?
SKILL: Ryu wins
Ryu has trained martial arts in many years and is a more motivated fighter than Devil Jin.
SPEED: Ryu wins
This is hard to decide. But Ryu is seen as faster than Devil JIn in all medias.
And i talk about the videogame Ryu. Stop using the anime as an example.
Now why haven't I thought of this earlier...youtube videos FTW
Jin smashed Heihachi straight through a thick wall of concrete back in T3, and this was just regular Jin. Also lifting boulders can hardly compare with smashing big robots to bits and tossing them across a room like no tomorrow. These are feats done be people who aren't even as strong as regular Jin...there you go.YouTube video
By the way, that explosion you see is the explosion Heihachi survived despite what Raven says. Skill, Ryu of course is more experienced due to being a sexually deprived 40 year old training since childhood. However simply having more skill isn't good enough to defeat someone of Jin's level, let alone DJ.
Speed watch the last part of that video I posted and show me an instant showing Ryu having greater speed than that. That's just ground speed and of course DJ's faster in the air as he is fast while airborne and can fly, unlike Ryu/E.Ryu.
Originally posted by Guilty Gear
Now why haven't I thought of this earlier...youtube videos FTWJin smashed Heihachi straight through a thick wall of concrete back in T3, and this was just regular Jin. Also lifting boulders can hardly compare with smashing big robots to bits and tossing them across a room like no tomorrow. These are feats done be people who aren't even as strong as regular Jin...there you go.YouTube video
By the way, that explosion you see is the explosion Heihachi survived despite what Raven says. Skill, Ryu of course is more experienced due to being a sexually deprived 40 year old training since childhood. However simply having more skill isn't good enough to defeat someone of Jin's level, let alone DJ.Speed watch the last part of that video I posted and show me an instant showing Ryu having greater speed than that. That's just ground speed and of course DJ's faster in the air as he is fast while airborne and can fly, unlike Ryu/E.Ryu.
Ryu is more skilled and he IS faster, just look at him.
And Devil Jin is stronger, i see now. But not by much.
I admit when i lose... Ryu can´t defeat Devil Jin. But it would be a hard fight.
But Evil Ryu would easily win this.
Desrayman, Ryu never lifted the boulder with one hand. he was lifting them with both hands and it was a considerable task for him since he was gritting his teeth and sweating like hell. though not taking away anything from ryu. that shite was impressive as hell.
Existance wiping is overhype to the extreme............ Every indication was that Unleashed Jinpachi could end life on earth, not planet popping and certainly not reality ending...
~Sado