Who IS the best Jedi knight?

Originally posted by Gideon
In a sense, you're very much correct. But the problem is that you seem to be unaware of certain details about Emperor Palpatine's 'agenda', so to speak, and you seem to be confusing other, minor issues, so I will do my best to clarify.

It is not my justification for Palpatine's death bringing balance to the Force that he was "a threat to the galaxy". You misunderstand; his presence was causing an unprecedented disturbance in the Force itself -- which extends well beyond the galaxy. So, yes, in that sense, you're correct. Emperor Palpatine's tyranny, though vicious and malevolent, was not as brutal as Darth Nihilus's glutton-based scheme to remove all Force-wielding life from the galaxy. For, as you say, Palpatine seemed to ultimately just want to lord over his galaxy.

But here is what most people are not aware of: ruling the galaxy was the Sith Order's ultimate plan; it wasn't Palpatine's. Ultimately, as detailed in the Dark Empire sourcebook, Palpatine -- after his death at Endor -- became quite mentally unstable. If it could be said that he had any control over his raw power prior to his death, it is most certain that he was losing control over it then. Consider Palpatine a more intelligent, more patient, and a more controlled version of Darth Nihilus. The Dark Empire states the following:

...Publius and several others have made convincing arguments that Palpatine toyed with the above idea during his reign as Galactic Emperor. However, it was his first death at the hands of Anakin Skywalker that inspired him to accelerate his mad ambitions. So, as you can see, ultimately Palpatine was not only a greater threat to the Force -- but he was a very threat to the universe itself, not isolated to just one galaxy. In that regard, he was indeed worse than Nihilus.

Fortunately, his spirit was destroyed before he could carry this out. As it were, I'm not here to debate Sidious. As much as I enjoy the character, Janus is right in that it seems everywhere I go, I turn it into a Sidious-based discussion.

Let's not have that here. If you'd like to discuss it further, a new thread or PM will do.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kay, thanks, that made alot of sense. On topic, I still say it's Qui-Gon.

No problem. 🙂

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Hmmmm I didn't know they were non canon. I'm pretty sure Sidious was a master of sith alchemy and sith magic and all that and this basically summed up what he was doing. Where does it say all of them are non canon? I know the one with Maul is but I don't know about the others...

And as a rule, random collections of stories which contain obviously contradictory material (the first several volumes of SW Tales) are generally considered as such, unless indicated otherwise.

LS says that 'Sithisis' features in the Ultimate Visual Guide on a page detailing Palpatine's rise to power, and I believe REX told me that one of them concerning Mon Mothma's son is also canon.

Originally posted by Gideon
LS says that 'Sithisis' features in the Ultimate Visual Guide on a page detailing Palpatine's rise to power, and I believe REX told me that one of them concerning Mon Mothma's son is also canon.

You mean the same Ultimate Visual Guide which calls Visas Marr a "Jedi apprentice of Darth Sion", written by a bunch of guys noted for making guides to for Spider-Man, Batman, Hulk and The Transformers?

And Rex just earlier posted that Visionaries are all non-canon, which makes a good deal of sense considering that they're just a compilation of well-illustrated short stories made by visual artists. They're not meant to be real EU material.

Qui Gon was the wisest.

Luke the most powerful.

But Yoda and Mace are by far the coolest.

Obi Wan had the best all-round game. Diplomat, force, wise, pilot, battle exp., and sword fighter.

Ithink Ajass Ventress And Aurra Sing even though Aalya beat Aurra. 💃

Obi-wan is the perfect example of a Jedi Knight. He is meant to be a counter to Anakin's arrogance and thirst for power.

If we are talking what it MEANS to be a Jedi Knight then its between Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan IMO. I'd give it to ol'Ben though.

id go with both qui gon and obi..even though both were tempted by the darkside, they both overcame it...they are perfect examples of jedi knights and what they represent..

Mace Windu anyone. Great diplomat, able pilot, 2nd best with lightsaber and force, wise, and down to earth type of guy.

you mean mace as a knight, not a master?

I don't think the thread-creator means it as much as the rank but the Jedi overall universal name. It's what their known by and called throughout the galaxy. So I think Masters can fit here to.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Mace Windu anyone. Great diplomat, able pilot, 2nd best with lightsaber and force, wise, and down to earth type of guy.

he also took care of those snakes on a plane...