DC cosmic vs Marvel cosmic

Started by xJLxKing14 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
How did they get defeated in weird ways?

Someone so powerful should be defeated in a lame way. Abraxas was soo powerful that he collapsed universal barriers. He was undefeated able, but he got defeated by 2 scientist, and a UN. Given that the plot was against him. Galactus, where will I start!?, he got defeated by earths hero so easily and very...blah! I mean if they were threatening him, he could have killed them in one attack, or bring his people for help. Roma(power to destroy a universe) gets killed so easily by Abraxas. LT(second to god) gets beat by Thanos, then Thanos kill himself. How can thanos be dumb enough to do that even though he has enough knowledge to use IG and HOTU.

What I am trying to say is that the cosmic entities in Marvel keep killing each other to the put that Marvel keeps making stronger and stronger foes(That's not the point). Look at DC's cosmic entities. Spectre, Micheal, and Lucifer are still undefeated by any foe and they are just a figure, they barely enter to kill an enemy. Everyone in Dc is in order.
-Presence
-Micheal, Lucifer
-Spectre
..etc

In Marvel it can't stay in order forever. They had Beyonder, MM, then they changed it to LT, IG, HOTU, Abraxas, Roma, Eternity, Death ...etc.

Originally posted by Mindset
How did they get defeated in weird ways?

maybe he's the one that is weird..claiming weird stuff 😆

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Someone so powerful should be defeated in a lame way. Abraxas was soo powerful that he collapsed universal barriers. He was undefeated able, but he got defeated by 2 scientist, and a UN. Given that the plot was against him. Galactus, where will I start!?, he got defeated by earths hero so easily and very...blah! I mean if they were threatening him, he could have killed them in one attack, or bring his people for help. Roma(power to destroy a universe) gets killed so easily by Abraxas. LT(second to god) gets beat by Thanos, then Thanos kill himself. How can thanos be dumb enough to do that even though he has enough knowledge to use IG and HOTU.

What I am trying to say is that the cosmic entities in Marvel keep killing each other to the put that Marvel keeps making stronger and stronger foes(That's not the point). Look at DC's cosmic entities. Spectre, Micheal, and Lucifer are still undefeated by any foe and they are just a figure, they barely enter to kill an enemy. Everyone in Dc is in order.
-Presence
-Micheal, Lucifer
-Spectre
..etc

In Marvel it can't stay in order forever. They had Beyonder, MM, then they changed it to LT, IG, HOTU, Abraxas, Roma, Eternity, Death ...etc.

Well there is quite a bit wrong about this post, but w/e. lol

Originally posted by Mindset
Well there is quite a bit wrong about this post, but w/e. lol

Well I am tired and don't have time to write it properly. However, my opinion is my opinion and I am entitled to it!

Any ways my point is, Marvel easily brings in new cosmic enemies and makes it look strong compared to the other "old" cosmic entities. Get it?

Originally posted by Slaanesh
marvel cosmic looks more interesting..

Looks, but they aren't. I know it's all opinion, but DC/Vertigo has some of the coolest abstracts in comics. Sandman is arguably the best comic book run of all time and it centers around Morpheus. Lucifer also had one of the best runs in comic history.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Someone so powerful should be defeated in a lame way. Abraxas was soo powerful that he collapsed universal barriers. He was undefeated able, but he got defeated by 2 scientist, and a UN. Given that the plot was against him. Galactus, where will I start!?, he got defeated by earths hero so easily and very...blah! I mean if they were threatening him, he could have killed them in one attack, or bring his people for help. Roma(power to destroy a universe) gets killed so easily by Abraxas. LT(second to god) gets beat by Thanos, then Thanos kill himself. How can thanos be dumb enough to do that even though he has enough knowledge to use IG and HOTU.
Abraxas was beaten by the UN... nothing more, nothing less. And that's not relevant to anything unless DC has the UN.

Galactus was defeated once by Earth's heroes off the top of my mind. And it wasn't easy. Unless Galactus is hungry in this battle, it isn't relevant.

Roma really has no feats, and she's not a cosmic...

LT was defeated by HOTU... the power of God. 😐

And Thanos never killed himself with the HOTU. He surrendered the power to create the universe anew but without the flaw that was going to bring it down.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What I am trying to say is that the cosmic entities in Marvel keep killing each other to the put that Marvel keeps making stronger and stronger foes(That's not the point). Look at DC's cosmic entities. Spectre, Micheal, and Lucifer are still undefeated by any foe and they are just a figure, they barely enter to kill an enemy. Everyone in Dc is in order.
-Presence
-Micheal, Lucifer
-Spectre
..etc

In Marvel it can't stay in order forever. They had Beyonder, MM, then they changed it to LT, IG, HOTU, Abraxas, Roma, Eternity, Death ...etc.

None of those are really cosmic entities (especially God). DC focuses on the mystic, while Marvel focuses on the cosmic.

And Spectre is not even close to undefeated...

As well as your order not making sense, if you're going by power order.

Beyonder, MM were first, but were ret-conned to be illusions.

LT has as long as he's existed been under God (except when Beyonder came along). IG was under LT in its run.
And HOTU was supposedly the power of God.
The other characters weren't switching the order of anything... if I understand this post correctly.

Didn't Reed Richards defeat Living Tribunal with a gun he created? And Lucifer/Michael aren't really 'mystic".

Originally posted by cloud102
Didn't Reed Richards defeat Living Tribunal with a gun he created?
Where did you get this?

A Reed fan keeps on saying this. I think it happened in an alternate time line, but that's not important.

Originally posted by cloud102
Didn't Reed Richards defeat Living Tribunal with a gun he created? And Lucifer/Michael aren't really 'mystic".
It took thirty years, was a cheapshot attack to reflect their powers on each other, and was never expanded on what it did exactly after it hit.

They're more-so than cosmic. Biblical if it makes you feel better.

Abraxas was beaten by the UN... nothing more, nothing less. And that's not relevant to anything unless DC has the UN.

They brought in a good character and killed him with a powerful weapon.

Galactus was defeated once by Earth's heroes off the top of my mind. And it wasn't easy. Unless Galactus is hungry in this battle, it isn't relevant.

Yeah, but he could have killed them easily. Why bring in someone so powerful if he is gonna be defeated in a stupid way.

Roma really has no feats, and she's not a cosmic...

It was just an example

LT was defeated by HOTU... the power of God.

Yeah, but LT could have prevented that

And Thanos never killed himself with the HOTU. He surrendered the power to create the universe anew but without the flaw that was going to bring it down.

Yeah, but he had the power of god, how could he have killed himself
None of those are really cosmic entities (especially God). DC focuses on the mystic, while Marvel focuses on the cosmic. And Spectre is not even close to undefeated... As well as your order not making sense, if you're going by power order. Beyonder, MM were first, but were ret-conned to be illusions. LT has as long as he's existed been under God (except when Beyonder came along). IG was under LT in its run. And HOTU was supposedly the power of God. The other characters weren't switching the order of anything... if I understand this post correctly.

I did not put them in order

Originally posted by I'm Bran
It took thirty years, was a cheapshot attack to reflect their powers on each other, and was never expanded on what it did exactly after it hit.

They're more-so than cosmic. Biblical if it makes you feel better.

So the LT never got Knock the f out?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They brought in a good character and killed him with a powerful weapon.

Yeah, but he could have killed them easily. Why bring in someone so powerful if he is gonna be defeated in a stupid way.

It was just an example

Yeah, but LT could have prevented that

Yeah, but he had the power of god, how could he have killed himself

I did not put them in order

Well... duh. How else were they going to stop him?

He was severely weakened. To make an appearance... 😐
That's the same line as: Why have Spectre appear if he doesn't solve anything?

Uh... huh...

How? And what does it matter? You're bringing in irrelevant plots in comics to try and say they lose a battle. The plot devices have absolutely no relevance here.

By not killing himself...

So explain what you meant by it, because it was confusing as hell.

Originally posted by cloud102
So the LT never got Knock the f out?
'and was never expanded on what it did exactly after it hit.'

That I recall anyway.

I repeat...Marvel cosmics are sissies.

You know who wins?

The Fans.

You never see what happens to LT or the other cosmics in Last Planet Standing. My guess is it was a lesser powered M-body of the LT.

Oblivion ends all the DC foo's except the Presence.

Oblivion sucks

What has Marvel's Oblivion done that places him above Eternity or Infinity??

You guys are insane 😐