Originally posted by Nikkolas
YouTube videoThat's the only time Heihachi fell anywhere really.
Yep, and that looks nothing like a volcano and if it did thats one weird looking volcano plus it looks more like the side of a cliff.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Yep, and that looks nothing like a volcano and if it did thats one weird looking volcano plus it looks more like the side of a cliff.
what about the time he was smacked through a wall and down a pyramid and the part where he was blown out of the sky right after getting his @$$ handed to him in T4?
Now I know this will be hard for you but let's learn something, kay?
What did V2D say:
" Oh, well he was tossed down some big hole type of thing by Kazuya, was he not?"
And my response was that was the only time he ever fell anywhere.
We are talking about someone dropping him down. V2D mixed the Tekken endings in 1 and 2 and I was correcting him. Perhaps I didn't clarify what I meant too well but come on. I know very well he's fallen down other times. I MENTION ALL THE STUFF YOU JUST SAID ON THE FIRST PAGE. I even posted a link to the Tekken 3 video.
get your facst straight nik_remy
Your attempts at needlessly insulting me has only confirmed the fact you don't have one clue what you're talking about.
Stay off the drugs, learn how to type and stop being a douche.
Now I know this will be hard for you but let's learn something, kay?
What did V2D say:
"Oh, well he was tossed down some big hole type of thing by Kazuya, was he not?"
And my response was that was the only time he ever fell anywhere.
We are talking about someone dropping him down. V2D mixed the Tekken endings in 1 and 2 and I was correcting him. Perhaps I didn't clarify what I meant too well but come on. I know very well he's fallen down other times. I MENTION ALL THE STUFF YOU JUST SAID ON THE FIRST PAGE. I even posted a link to the Tekken 3 video.
Your attempts at needlessly insulting me has only confirmed the fact you don't have one clue what you're talking about. Stay off the drugs, learn how to type and stop being a douche.
~Sado
nik_remy really isn't an insult.
I know the user Shin_Remmy is poorly regarded around here so I don't see how Nik_remmy ISN'T an insult.
And about lame fanboy statements, you're the one who spends an hour writing up posts with unnecessary fluff that has nothing to do with the fights. like, Jin is part Devil, part Mishima and part Kazama. We all kinda know that. And that's also needless ABC Logic to try and make Jin look better. You point to his heritage and thinkg he's never been able to do to back him. So his mother can beat Devil...er, Jin can't. Obviously. So Kazuya survived being chucked off a cliff and Heihachi survived a massive explosion. Jin hasn't done either of those things.
You also primarily use non-canon endings for your evidence, along with statements by random people. Threaten the planet sure...but when it comes to actually proving Jinpachi's power through actions, you fail miserably. Holding up a boulder and making the ground shake does not equal planetary threat, sorry.
I know the user Shin_Remmy is poorly regarded around here so I don't see how Nik_remmy ISN'T an insult
as for the rest:
thats really funny. i mentioned Jin's uberness cuz you considered Jinpachi a wuss because Jin beat him. what kind of an impression is that supposed to give me, nik? and for one no one seemed to know that till i pointed it out. it was only natural that i assumed you didn't either. sue me. not only do you get half the facts wrong you didn't even acknowledge the fact that Jinpachi could erase existence. so no...i will post those kind of posts so that people you can get it through the skull. and the argument follows like this, genius:
-jun's mother defeated devil with her kazama powers which passed on to Jin
-jin is from a family that has insane endurance
-jin has devil powers mixed with his insane family blood and his kazama powers.
that is what i was pointing out. that he's a freakin threeway hybrid with three seperate powers flowing through him. not some random 22 years kid that Jinpachi lost to.
You also primarily use non-canon endings for your evidence, along with statements by random people. Threaten the planet sure...but when it comes to actually proving Jinpachi's power through actions, you fail miserably. Holding up a boulder and making the ground shake does not equal planetary threat, sorry.
oh and 😆
this is coming from the guy who says akuma can destroy the world despite:
-it never being stated that he can
-him not having a feat that REMOTELY suggests that he can
again, sorry for flaming you before but seriously, better stop dicking around with such fanboyism. chances are you'll be in the same running joke of KMC like shinremy that no one even takes seriously anymore. be careful.
~Sado
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thats really funny. i mentioned Jin's uberness cuz you considered Jinpachi a wuss because Jin beat him
I never ONCE said that.
I know how uber Jin is.
What I said was that Jinpachi got up, came out, and was promptly beaten by Jin before he could do anything of note, thus removing the chance of feats.
I was showing the flaw in claiming he has planetary-level destructive power He was defeated too quickly and showed too little to possibly think that.
not only do you get half the facts wrong
Name these facts I've gotten wrong.
you didn't even acknowledge the fact that Jinpachi could erase existence
I don't acknowledge non-canon endings and I look for FEATS. Not people harping on about a character. I look at what teh character actually DID. Again, there is a story-telling tool called hyperbole. And going by what is SHOWN, Jinpachi "erasing existence" IS pure and utter hyperbole.
so no...i will post those kind of posts so that people you can get it through the skull. and the argument follows like this, genius:
You mean you will continue to try and make Jin stronger by association via Heihachi and Kazuya's feats?
-jun's mother defeated devil with her kazama powers which passed on to Jin
Looks more like they passed on to Asuka. We've seen 3 Kazamas: Jun, Jin and Asuka. Out of those 3, Jin has shown jack all in the way of Kazama powers to beat Devil. He has in fact, tapped into his Devil power several times and showed zero Kazama spiritual power.
You forget Jin has been, since we saw him in Tekken 3, largely motivated by anger and revenge. Ogre killed his mother so he hunted down Heihachi who trained him. Jin trained as hard as he could so he would kill Ogre. Then heihachi attacked him and Jin tapped into his Devil power to escape. He is then further motivated by hate for his Mishima bloodline and is nearly consumed by the Devil power in him before barely stopping himself from killing Heihachi.
This does not reek of the Kazama nature, of the way his mother was. It reeks of a Mishima trying his hardest to contest his nature and failing.
-jin is from a family that has insane endurance
And Jin has his own endurance feats. We know how durable he is from what we've seen of him. We don't need to point to his family.
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-jin has devil powers mixed with his insane family blood and his kazama powers.
And he never is shown using his Kazama powers, only his Devil ones.
Fancy that.
that is what i was pointing out. that he's a freakin threeway hybrid with three seperate powers flowing through him. not some random 22 years kid that Jinpachi lost to.
I know he's not some random kid. Kinda figured that when he took down the God of Fighting then sprouted wings after getting shot and then all the other things that clearly indicate otherwise.
I've actually had this conversation with Sam Z in the past. He was pissing about how Jin shouldn't win and I pointed out that naturally Jin would win because he is a blend of the most powerful evil and the most powerful good we know of in the Tekkenverse. It makes him a hybrid of awesome.
But when it comes into actually debating who wins this and that, feats matter more than theoretical and analytical study of the storyline.
like what? non-canon endings? endings are allowed here as long as they are not from NON-CANON games. and the fact remains: bison is said to be capable of destroying cities because charlie said he COULD. using the same logic, Jinpachi can destory and annihilate existence because everyone said he could and that is why avrious participents of the tournament came to stop him.
Good for Mr. Bison. I don't care. If a character says somethinga and it's unproven, it's BS. I got no clue if Bison showed city-destroying power but I sure as hell no Jinpachi didn't show existence-destroying power.
this is coming from the guy who says akuma can destroy the world
I never said that.
-him not having a feat that REMOTELY suggests that he can
Talk about hypocrisy.
If we get into feats, Akuma has a much better chance of destroying the world than Jinpachi.
again, sorry for flaming you before but seriously, better stop dicking around with such fanboyism. chances are you'll be in the same running joke of KMC like shinremy that no one even takes seriously anymore. be careful.
Are V2D and SBP lumped in that category of running jokes?
They seem to agree with me.
Originally posted by Sado22
and the fact remains: bison is said to be capable of destroying cities because charlie said he COULD.~Sado
Originally posted by Sam Z...Kazuya did swim in lava...😐
Kazuya didn't throw Heihachi in a volcano. Heihachi threw him.
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God I f***ing love Christie Monteiro dd
Actually Sado22, I addressed this in another thread already. Bison hasn't ever destroyed a city under his own power, so we don't say he can. Othwerwise, it would open this Pandora's Box of city,continent, and planet busters who haven't shown the ability to do so.
Actually, I think Sado was trying to attack my )supposed) SF fanboyism by stating some hyperbole from SF like I'd agree with that.
Fact is, I agree with your assessment. What is said, IS BS unless it's backed up.
Bison can't destroy a city.
Jinpachi can't destroy existence.
Just because it's said, doesn't make it true.
nik, i told you to IGNORE my post cuz it was after our pm exchange. we don't need to drag this further....don't you think?
i'll just respond to one thing:
we say that Jinpachi can annihilate existence because Raven's superiors specifically asked him to join the Tekken5 tournament because jinpachi was threatening existence. that is clearly seen in Raven's cutscenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wNF5ewguw
the way i see it, there was no reason for hyperbole or whatever if a whole secret organization was behind stopping it. this is the point everyone seems to agree with....and you and styletime could at least acknowledge it.
@Styles. dude...i never said that bison can wreck the city. its just something everyone points out here all the time. i was just doing a cross reference. that's all.
~Sado
nik, i told you to IGNORE my post cuz it was after our pm exchange. we don't need to drag this further....don't you think?
Ah. Sorry.
the way i see it, there was no reason for hyperbole or whatever if a whole secret organization was behind stopping it. this is the point everyone seems to agree with....and you and styletime could at least acknowledge it.
Except HOW is he threatening existence?
Existence has nukes.
Can Jinpachi survive a nuke?
How will he kill existence?
Blow it up with one hand?
Take 4 months to exterminate each continent?
It's too vague and nothing we saw explains it.