Yo.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually on panel it was clearly stated that more than one Universe was involved:Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other Timelines,
Like Horus:
"[B]Tis also THIER Universe
(like 4321) that be imperiled"[/B]
ok, but the problem here is that yur mistaken the use of the word to mean a separate universe, rather than another realm (truly, since 1 of the definitions of the word universe means sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place, and lets be real here its not like Thor comes to the 616 from the MU-654 & Zeus from MU-345 right? we know Olympus & Asgard exists in separate realms, but "universe" in the usual sense is wrongly applied here), yur mistaken here comrade.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And Thanos says,"meanwhile [B]Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe
(616) badly shaken"[/B]
the same applies here too; the word here is synonymous with "world", as in "his whole WORLD is badly shaken." I dont take that to mean wat yur implying.
Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no getting around this,
yall wanted some [B]On Panel Proof that depicted the END taking place in MORE than One Universe,Well there it is, On Panel.[/B]
except Uve taken the uses of the word outta context here.I dont think the writer, or ANYBODY who read MU:TE considered Thanos to have wiped out the Marvel OMNIVERSE when he did wat he did.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Also, Thanos became the embodiment of the Omniverse:[/B]
"omni-reality" does not equate to "omni-verse"; "omni-reality" means "ALL-reality". now, U *could* try to argue that means "all reality throughout the MU-omniverse......but even thats stretching it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
This proves it was the Omniverse:"
"[B]I was a grain of sand in a Distant FutureThe Past & Future of the 616 Reality are located in separate UniverseS in Marvel.[/B]
well, I know that we've yet to see the TRUE future of the MU, however there WAS the 2099 -stuff and IIRC that was (by design) supposed to be future. but I'll admit I dont know if that was line of books was retconned out or not.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"I was Everything"Indeed.
not being TOTALLY disputed........
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not exactly as you just noticed above.And according to the official Handbooks:
"[B]Thanos destroyed All that Existed
"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)[/B]
none of which says anything about him becoming ALL with the M-omniverse.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And according to Marvel.comThanos erased and recreated the Marvel Universe (Omniverse)
uh-UH comrade, I dont think so. look at the way they worded it:
The Marvel Universe is renowned for the presence of fantastic superhuman beings, the supernatural, and the cosmic. Although considered the “prime reality” in which events of universal significance occur (and, indeed, megauniversal and/or omniuniversal significance), this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”) to differentiate it among the infinite numbers of alternate realities.
by the simple fact that they separated it in calling it the "prime reality", means that when theyre using the word, its meant as a term for a *singular* realm, not the totality of realms that have come to be established.
in short: when they mean "the Marvel Universe" they mean just "the 616".
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.
Ey.
Originally posted by Tazer
[COLOR=green]ok, but the problem here is that yur mistaken the use of the word to mean a separate universe, rather than another realm (truly,
Actually, you're the one that's mistaking terms friend.
If you want to add text to the scans,
and make believe Zeus was talking about "other realms" ... when he clearly said,
"their Universe"
srugyellowshoes
Again, OTHER TImelines IN MARVEl are located in separate UniverseS.
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.
You don't wanna accept that, fine,
write Marvel a letter and leave me alone about it.
Originally posted by Tazer
[COLOR=green]since 1 of the definitions of the word universe means sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place,
So now you're trying to redefine how Marvel defines it's Universes?
As for,
"sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place"
Yea, IN Marvel those are called Pocket Dimensions/Universes.
Which can be as small as a single Planet:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Counter-Earth_%28Franklin_Richards%29
😬
Originally posted by Tazer
[COLOR=green] and lets be real here its not like Thor comes to the 616 from the MU-654 & Zeus from MU-345 right? we know Olympus & Asgard exists in separate realms, but "universe" in the usual sense is wrongly applied here), yur mistaken here comrade.
No one was talking about Zeus, Thor
or Odin's Asgard which are located in pocket universes WITHIN the 616 Reality.
I specifically was talking about the Pantheons that come from different TIMELINES!
And ALL TImelines (PAST & Future) IN Marvel,
are located OUTSIDE the 616 Reality in OTHER UniverseS:
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.
So you're mistaken comrade.
Originally posted by Tazer
the same applies here too; the word here is synonymous with "world", as in "his whole WORLD is badly shaken."
😆
Yea, that's what he meant, although the scan says otherwise:
"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"
And Thanos says,
"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"
Originally posted by Tazer
[COLOR=green] I dont take that to mean wat yur implying.
Email Marvel then.
Originally posted by Tazer
except Uve taken the uses of the word outta context here.
Cause you think so?
Originally posted by Tazer
I dont think the writer, or ANYBODY who read MU:TE considered Thanos to have wiped out the Marvel OMNIVERSE when he did wat he did.
Oh that's right, you know EVERYONE that has read the issue,
and of course you made a world wide researched survey,
and this is how you came to this conclusion.
Yet, Marvel the Company that publishes the Comics,
on their Official Website state that Thanos destroyed the Marvel Universe.
srugdoped
But you're right, how can the World be wrong ... and Marvel be right?
Originally posted by Tazer
"omni-reality" does not equate to "omni-verse"; "omni-reality" means "ALL-reality". now, U *could* try to argue that means "all reality throughout the MU-omniverse......but even thats stretching it.
hum
Even though Thanos' consciousness went,
"BEYOND the Abstract"
"Into Realms he never knew even existed before"
He was "a grain of sand in a Distant Future"
And this is the SAME Thanos that became the entire 616 Universe TWICE!
Originally posted by Tazer
well, I know that we've yet to see the TRUE future of the MU, however there WAS the 2099 -stuff and IIRC that was (by design) supposed to be future. but I'll admit I dont know if that was line of books was retconned out or not.
If Thanos was a grain of sand in a "Distant Future"
The he encompassed UniverseS, not just one.
And if he encompassed UniverseS, then Omni-Reality meant the Omniverse.
Originally posted by Tazer
not being TOTALLY disputed........
It can't be.
Originally posted by Tazer
none of which says anything about him becoming ALL with the M-omniverse.
Nah,
it just says, that "Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed"
and that "Thanos destroyed ALL of Reality"
But I suppose all that exists in the Marvel Universe is one Reality. 😂
Originally posted by Tazer
uh-UH comrade, I dont think so. look at the way they worded it:
uh-UH comrade, go back and READ!
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Actually, I'll make it easy for ya:
According to Marvel.com
Thanos erased and recreated the Marvel Universe (Omniverse)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
"The Marvel Universe Although considered the “prime reality”
in which events of universal significance occur,
(and, indeed, Megauniversal and/or Omniuniversal significance),
this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”)
to differentiate it among the infinite numbers of alternate realities.
.................................
In the Last paragraph: (The ENDS of The Universe)
"Thanos decided that the true sign of his Ultimate power,
would be to destroy The Universe and become The One True Supreme being."
You don't like it, email Marvel.
Originally posted by Tazer
by the simple fact that they separated it in calling it the "prime reality", means that when theyre using the word, its meant as a term for a *singular* realm, not the totality of realms that have come to be established.in short: when they mean "the Marvel Universe" they mean just "the 616".
In short: You're wrong comrade.
Interesting, how you completely ignored all the relevant info.
Hmm, now how in the heck did that Alien Entity
fold Marvel back to the point before the Original Big Bang was initiated,
from the 616 Reality, BEFORE the Universe became an Omniverse?
How can this be if according to you, the Marvel Universe is just 616? hm
Originally posted by Mr MasterThis scan, simply means that it is also their universe as well.
😆Yea, that's what he meant, although the scan says otherwise:
"[B]Tis also THIER Universe
(like 4321) that be imperiled"[/B]
Meaning, that their universe is in danger.
The same universe as Thor, and Zeus's.
Example:
"It's their world that also lies in the balance."
A line we usually see in movies, but it's still talking about a singular planet, which usually is Earth.
Also, Doom's universe was badly shaken, because he found out that a bunch of time travelers were caught.
It had no effect on the universe, only Doom, so, in this scene, we can safely say, it would be the same as saying that "my world was recently rocked."
And of course, King Thor is from the same universe as Doom from those scans, so...
Originally posted by King Kandy
Is it possible that by "Their universe" Zeus just meant Helios,
similar to how Asgard could be considered "Thor's Universe"?
Nah.
Asgard is Thor's home, located in a pocket realm within the 616 Universe.
Originally posted by King Kandy
"Trouble conserning ancient Egypt" probably is just a reference to Akhenaten being from Ancient Egypt.
Actually, that was Horus he was talking about.
Who came through a Time portal into the 616 Reality from the Year 1334.
The year 1334 is located in a separate Universe. (like ALL Timelines)
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
This scan, simply means that it is also their universe as well.
Meaning, they also reside in the universe.Meaning, that their universe is in danger.
The same universe as Thor, and Zeus's.Example:
"It's their world that also lies in the balance."A line we usually see in movies, but it's still talking about a singular planet, which usually is Earth.
Also, Doom's universe was badly shaken, because he found out that a bunch of time travelers were caught.
It had no effect on the universe, only Doom, so, in this scene, we can safely say, it would be the same as saying that "my world was recently rocked."
And of course, King Thor is from the same universe as Doom from those scans, so...
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
This scan, simply means that it is also their universe as well.
Meaning, they also reside in the universe.Meaning, that their universe is in danger.
The same universe as Thor, and Zeus's.
Only that Horus' Timeline is the year 1334,
the PAST (another Universe) so ...
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Example:
"It's their world that also lies in the balance."A line we usually see in movies, but it's still talking about a singular planet, which usually is Earth.
Also, Doom's universe was badly shaken, because he found out that a bunch of time travelers were caught.
It had no effect on the universe, only Doom, so, in this scene, we can safely say, it would be the same as saying that "my world was recently rocked."
And of course, King Thor is from the same universe as Doom from those scans, so...
Horus is from a PAST Timeline. (Another completely separate Universe)
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.
🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
I totaly agree with this statement.
Of course you do, he's speculating about the same thing as you.
Bottomline though:
Horus is from a PAST Timeline (the Year 1334)
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.
noneyes
Originally posted by Mr MasterHowever, Thor and Zeus called all of the Gods from that portal.
Only that Horus' Timeline is the year 1334,the PAST (another Universe) so ...
Horus is from a PAST Timeline. (Another completely separate Universe)
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm
ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616
are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.
🙂
And, unless the rest of the Skyfathers come from Horus's universe, then I do believe that he was talking about a singular universe at that particular instance.
Wait a minute, didn't Marvunapp say that Thanos erased the multiverse?
Aren't you now saying that he destroyed the omniverse?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Though you have to admit that the Dr. Doom line was probably not literal.
You mean when Thanos was refering to Akhenaten creating chaos in the 616 Universe?
You best believe It was literal:
Eternity/Infinity were blind.
Doom's Universe being badly shaken is an understatement. 🙂
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
However, Thor and Zeus called all of the Gods from that portal.
Actually we only saw Horus came for that particualr Portal.
Neither you nor I have any idea how the others arrived there.
And Horus isn't the only one that resides in a separate Timeline.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
And, unless the rest of the Skyfathers come from Horus's universe, then I do believe that he was talking about a singular universe at that particular instance.
Addressed above.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Wait a minute, didn't Marvunapp say that Thanos erased the multiverse?
Yes it does.
(But when you erase the Prime Multiverse .. you essentially erase everything)
This is why Genis/Entropy are credited with erasing All of Marvel along with Thanos:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Last paragraph under (The ENDS of The Universe)
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Aren't you now saying that he destroyed the omniverse?
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Marvel >>> even it's officially sponsored sites.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You mean when Thanos was refering to Akhenaten creating chaos in the 616 Universe?You best believe It was literal:
Eternity/Infinity were blind.
Doom's Universe being badly shaken is an understatement. 🙂
Kind of like "He rocked my world".
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
When he was talking about that statement, he only referred to the time travelers being caught.
How do you know that?
Where is it stated?
What we do know is that at that particular moment and through out that issue,
Akhenaten was taking over the Universe and murdering heroes,
and he also made Eternity/Infinity go blind, in the PRIOR issue.
So how you figure, that "Doom's Universe" = himself?
When the actual entire Universe 616, was getting raped by Akhenaten at that very moment?
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
And again, Doom comes from the same universe as King Thor,
so they weren't talking about different universes.
Tomato .. tomatoe.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah but it seems like "His universe was shaken" refered to him being amazed at the captured time travelors.
Can you imagine the horror?
😆
Come on K,
Again,
although Eternity/Infinity (Doom's Universe) were being raped by Akhenaten,
you still think Thanos was refering to Doom alone?
As you wish then.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Can you imagine the horror?
Originally posted by Mr Master
😆Come on K,
Again,
although Eternity/Infinity (Doom's Universe) were being raped by Akhenaten,
you still think Thanos was refering to Doom alone?
As you wish then.
If A and B are happening at the same time, then of course people have to be refering to A!
No, actualy now that I think about it that sounds pretty damn illogical.
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo, if others come from other universes as well, then why would he only mention "their universe"?
Actually we only saw Horus came for that particualr Portal.Neither you nor I have any idea how the others arrived there.
And Horus isn't the only one that resides in a separate Timeline.
Addressed above.
Hell, from the way Thor said it, everyone came from the same universe...
Also, where was it stated that Horus came from another universe, other than 1602?
I think it was, however, I'm curious.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYou know, I remember editing Storm's bio a while ago, about her sucking, and being nothing to Magneto, in marvel.com.
Yes it does.(But when you erase the Prime Multiverse .. you essentially erase everything)
This is why Genis/Entropy are credited with erasing All of Marvel along with Thanos:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Last paragraph under (The ENDS of The Universe)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Marvel >>> even it's officially sponsored sites.
