Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Started by kevdude49 pages
kevdude The Hooded Man
Originally posted by Superherovandal
The Presence is not Yahweh of Lucifer. Dan Didio himself has stated that Vertigo is separate from DCU.

Actually The Presence does = Yhwh, I don't know where you get it saying they aren't the same. Just because Dan said Vertigo is seperate from DCU does not mean what you say at all 😕

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Astner
Read it and wheep. Beyonder is near-omnipotent, not omnipotent.
He can be beaten.

So you took ONE scan where Captain America makes a statement,
and now Beyonder is limited and can be beaten?

You want me to flood this thread with scans that state Beyonder was Omnipotent and Omniscient?

Say the word.

Meh, here's one seldom seen,

Beyonder erases drug dealers from existence,
the WRITER descirbes it as:

"In the blink of an Omnipotent eye"

Originally posted by Astner
Here's even an instance where Puma could kill Pre-retconned Beyonder.
Because at this point Puma was more powerful tha him.

yea, that was Beyonder that wanted that to happen,
in fact, Beyonder created that Destiny for Puma.

Why are you posting scans without reading them friend.

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

Originally posted by kevdude
Actually The Presence does = Yhwh, I don't know where you get it saying they aren't the same. Just because Dan said Vertigo is seperate from DCU does not mean what you say at all 😕
Dan Didio the Freaking Editor in Chief of DCU said it....Its True.

kevdude The Hooded Man
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Dan Didio the Freaking Editor in Chief of DCU said it....Its True.

Ok do you get what Dan said?? He's not talking about God hes talking about the Continuity of DC and Vertigo, if you read Sandman and other DC Vertigo Comics you would know they are the same being!!

Air Legend Moderat0r

Damn some people are trying to argue that Lucifer can beat Classic Beyonder or Thanos HOTI. Forget that. If we go by feats and the Presence as Yahweh of Vertigo, Thanos wins this in a stomp.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Well, seeing how Lucifer broke the Presence's bonds. And how he stated that he wasn't supreme. I'm actually starting to doubting the Presence.

I mean Thanos was everything in creation (every feather on a bird, a dying woman's last breathe, a clock ticking etc.) He had aboslute control, though the Presence could as well have some subconscious restrictions.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Plus, Yahweh was an omniscient dumbass. Hell, any person with a brain knows there are more than two choices (talking about the destroy or save creation instance) and that not everything is so black and white.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Astner
Well, seeing how Lucifer broke the Presence's bonds. And how he stated that he wasn't supreme. I'm actually starting to doubting the Presence.

I mean Thanos was everything in creation (every feather on a bird, a dying woman's last breathe, a clock ticking etc.) He had aboslute control, though the Presence could as well have some subconscious restrictions.

Thanos had absolute control? And yet he speculated about others who might threaten his reign? How could he be everything and WONDER about other beings? He was everything and yet on panel, warlock and death were outside of his influence? NOTHING is outside the influence of a supreme being.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Well, you can't ignore panel evidence and expect people to take you seriously or even spend their time debating with you.

fangirl101 Restricted
Originally posted by Astner
Well, you can't ignore panel evidence and expect people to take you seriously or even spend their time debating with you.

Exactly what on panel evidence is anyone ignoring? It would seem that supporters of Thanos would be doing the exact same thing. Ignoring blatant on panel evidence. Picking and chosing what they like and ignoring what they don'.

Air Legend Moderat0r
Originally posted by Astner
Well, you can't ignore panel evidence and expect people to take you seriously or even spend their time debating with you.
leonheartmm Senior Member

overkill. the presence would destroy thanos and the heart.

Mr Master Junior Member

Supreme Being vs Supreme Being = Stalemate

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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)

Excerpt from Thanos' own Bio:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being ... "

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=========== SUPREME BEING =============

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And GOD!

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Official Marvel Handbook as well:

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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=========== GOD =============

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leonheartmm Senior Member

infinity, supreme, infinity supreme, greater than writers, ifinity, supreme, universe GAGA DOUGHNUT!

that is all the above argument boils down to. according to mr.master, thanos has more power than the writers.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by leonheartmm

infinity, supreme, infinity supreme, greater than writers, ifinity, supreme, universe GAGA DOUGHNUT!


Precisely, gobbledygook, seen a lot of that coming from your corner.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

that is all the above argument boils down to. according to mr.master,
thanos has more power than the writers.


Liar.

Nothing left ey,
now it's time to begin lies,
in a vain attempt to confuse onlookers.

Slick ploy.

For the record though,

Mr Master has NEVER ever said that.

leonheartmm Senior Member

^an anomoly that TOAA cudnt get rid off.

those are your words not mine. get back to riding it now.

BetrayedUnicorn ...its science,dear

presence...thanos sucks...

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Astner
Well, you can't ignore panel evidence and expect people to take you seriously or even spend their time debating with you.
Agreed.

lannfear Senior Member

This is better than watching political debates...much more entertaining........

😆

fangirl101 Restricted

Thanos had all power

Presence has All power
Authority
Omnicience
Omnipresence Etc.

Easy to pick a winner.