Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Originally posted by Mr Master

TOAA & GOD (inconsequential)

because everything below is drawings on a piece of paper to them.
In fact, Marvel has it as though they themselves create & draw the Marvel comics we read.

THOTI
The LT & Scathan glare (I disaprove of this ... but it is Canon)
The Alien Entity
The BeyonderS
Edifice Rex
Jaspers 616
Jamie Braddock
Merlyn
Havok/Nexus
Meggan (FP)
Vangaard
Masters of the Matrix
Eternity/Infinity/Umar
Death/Oblivion
Other Multiversal Abstracts
The Infinites
The Makers
Slorioth
The Hunger
The Universal Abstracts (Phoenix Force included)

This is a Current active hierarchy.

Ultimate items:

Sword of Might (Excalibre) & Amulet of Right
Infinity Gauntlet
Cosmic Containment Units
Ultimate Nullifier
Celestial Nullifier
Dark Angel's armor

Originally posted by Juntai
It does however show which concept is more all-consuming.

But she's not the 'most powerful' of the Endless, so long as they are needed. [That spot goes to Destiny imo].

Originally posted by Galan007
Death 'outlasts' everything because she has to. That's her curse as a concept.

But she's not the 'most powerful' of the Endless, so long as they are needed. [That spot goes to Destiny imo].

Originally posted by Galan007
Death 'outlasts' everything because she has to. That's her curse as a concept.

But she's not the 'most powerful' of the Endless, so long as they are needed. [That spot goes to Destiny imo].

Agreed. Destiny is the most powerful, he was here before everything and can see the future. He is beyond Death until the very end and being around so long there is literally nothing else for him to see or do.

And yes these God threads are getting old. Pretty soon well see 1 of the Marvel Creators vs Thanos w/thotu lol

Originally posted by kevdude
Agreed. Destiny is the most powerful, he was here before everything and can see the future. He is beyond Death until the very end and being around so long there is literally nothing else for him to see or do.

And yes these God threads are getting old. Pretty soon well see 1 of the Marvel Creators vs Thanos w/thotu lol

bump

Originally posted by Juntai
Death is second eldest, lives beyond him, and knows the future too.
There's really nothing to say one is more powerful than the other. But we do know Death eventually claims Destiny. What is greater?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It really comes down to who has the most influence. Even if Death lives beyond destiny, it's only becuz Destiny has written it so. So Destiny still has more power than Death. No one can escape Destiny. Not even Destiny.

They're all pretty all powerful. I don't see how to put one beyonder the others, but if I did, it would have to be death, imo for the very nature of the character.

Originally posted by Juntai
They're all pretty all powerful. I don't see how to put one beyonder the others, but if I did, it would have to be death, imo for the very nature of the character.

Originally posted by Juntai
She outlives the concept of Destiny. Death is all-consuming, to say she doesn't have the most influence seems foolish.
It's like she said, she doesn't just know the future, she is the future, because it all comes back to her.

Actually The ALE entity is even beyond Her. It's the nothingness that comes after she falls. But meh, I consider the one who wrote the book at the most powerful. Even if not the longest lasting. For destiny could, conceiveably write death out of existance. 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
What makes you believe that, though?

Yet even beings such as Lucifer are bound by Destiny's book.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually The ALE entity is even beyond Her. It's the nothingness that comes after she falls. But meh, I consider the one who wrote the book at the most powerful. Even if not the longest lasting. For destiny could, conceiveably write death out of existance. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
so destiny actually writes the book. i thought destiny just knew what happened and had no influece on what occurs.

The Book is already written, By whom? Destiny. Destiny is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Book is already written, By whom? Destiny. Destiny is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Book is already written, By whom? Destiny. Destiny is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
so destiny is above the presence to u to huh. so is presence third to u. under mr mxy and destiny.

From Now on, Quote me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
From Now on, Quote me.

ps u feel mxy is most powerful right then destiny.

Originally posted by quanchi112
im trying to figure out who u feel is supreme in dc. wait thats the wrong word as there is no supreme being there. who is the baddest. or is it a tiebreaker? u neither confirm or deny my thoughts about ur opinion on the matter.

ps u feel mxy is most powerful right then destiny.

Destiny wrote that Mxy would destroy everything and then set it all back. What do you think?

their are 2 destinies in vertigo. one is the endless. and the other is the will of the presene. the former has no power over lucifer, the later does. and the later is the one that lucifer is trying to break free from.

similarly their are 2 deaths. one the endless, who was told off by lucifer to NOT have any power over him as he reseurrected himself. the other is TRUE oblivion which befell even the presence. heck, death herself warned lucifer not to kill HER as in the end it would just mean less souls for lucifer to control in hell as theyd have to die to go there{she said "if you kill the messenger, in the end, all youll end up doing is getting less mail"}.

the ultimate DESTRUCTION can befall the endless death herself. lucifer micheal/etc are beyond the bounds of the endless.

and the list preseted earlier is highly biased.