Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl❌
Oh ok. I can agree that destiny is powerful. But wouldn't the word, or Lucifer be able to over come even destiny?
According to Destiny,
ALL things are predetermained, everything Lucifer did, does, or ends up doing, are already in Destiny's book.
The path Lucifer chooses, is little more then a story to Destiny, (in the literal sense.)
Originally posted by Galan007poor lucy. everything seems planned so nothing happens that isnt predestined.
❌According to Destiny,
ALL things are predetermained, everything Lucifer did, does, or ends up doing, are already in Destiny's book.
The path Lucifer chooses, is little more then a story to Destiny, (in the literal sense.)
Originally posted by Galan007If Lucifer wanted to kill Destiny, he probably could however, he would just know and accept these events as preordained, as written. Then another aspect would replace him, as Lucifer very likely probably could not actually destroy the very concept of Destiny. Just as what happened with Despair once before, according to the conversation with Dream and Destruction.
❌According to Destiny,
ALL things are predetermained, everything Lucifer did, does, or ends up doing, are already in Destiny's book.
The path Lucifer chooses, is little more then a story to Destiny, (in the literal sense.)
Originally posted by Juntaiso if he ever destroyed destiny then destiny would already know this so he really didnt destroy anything as destiny has everything written.
If Lucifer wanted to kill Destiny, he probably could however, he would just know and accept these events as preordained, as written. Then another aspect would replace him, as Lucifer very likely probably could not actually destroy the very concept of Destiny. Just as what happened with Despair once before, according to the conversation with Dream and Destruction.
Originally posted by JuntaiRight.
If Lucifer wanted to kill Destiny, he probably could however, he would just know and accept these events as preordained, as written. Then another aspect would replace him, as Lucifer very likely probably could not actually destroy the very concept of Destiny. Just as what happened with Despair once before, according to the conversation with Dream and Destruction.
And before Dream journeyed to Hell he remarked a few times that if he were to be destroyed by Lucifer, another manifestation would replace him.
(concepts are safe when they are needed)
Originally posted by Galan007Yep. Destruction also noted that if he fully up gave up his position, and not just his responsibilities- that another him would just come along and take his place.
Right.And before Dream journeyed to Hell he remarked a few times that if he were to be destroyed by Lucifer, another manifestation would replace him.
Originally posted by King KandyBut raw power, shouldn't be all that defines whether or not character A is greater then character B.
There's no doubt in my mind that Lucifer could destroy the Destiny Being, but a new aspect would just come back...But Raw power wise, the Endless are far below Lucifer.
We know for sure that Lucifer > Death and Dream.
But since he will always be bound by Destiny, is Lucifer truly greater then him?
No, imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
my phenomenol style of debating. 🙄what are u talking about. ion isnt as versatile as thanos. i have just shown scans showing thanos had complete mastery and everyone knows this as well over mind,soul,space,power,reality, and time.
while ion has a vast array of abilities and can mess with time thanos had complete mastery over it and had more power than kronos. than kronos. thanos has more impressive feats as well.
you are trying to so hard to get the point across that thanos left the opening needed to be defeated but thats after he put all the abstracts down. im combat he beat eternity.
i say curbstomp when it is necessary and here he could toy with ion. thanos wins this all day.
Rolling your eyes doesn't make you any less wrong.
Where are you getting the utter crap that you are spewing?
Complete mastery over mind? Must have been why Warlock was able to plot against Thanos and Eternity was able to mask himself. Why Nebula needed time to adjust to the gauntlet..etc.
Space, power, reality, and time...all easily accomplished by ION. He's everywhere at once and part of everything and his power is unlimited.
Soul - Even Parallax was able to resurrect, Ion is more powerful...and the rightful owner of OA's unlimited power. Even the current weaker version of Ion can resurrect.
While Thanos was out foolishly flaunting bravado and being emo for death...Kyle was fixing the universe while in bed.
Thanos lost the IG by becoming one with the universe. Warlock was able to hide from the IG in plain sight.
Equal power for the most part... one wiser in using it than the other. Kyle was only able to lose his power if he gave it up. Thanos could lose it if he lost the gauntlet.
Last but not least - in the one xover they had... Thanos surely wanted OA's power to destroy existnece..but yea..no power there. LOL
Originally posted by Avlonthanos could have altered drax and the silver surfer, he let them plot against him and said he was so powerful he could afford to let his enemies live. warlocks plotting had what effect on thanos in ig?
Rolling your eyes doesn't make you any less wrong.Where are you getting the utter crap that you are spewing?
Complete mastery over mind? Must have been why Warlock was able to plot against Thanos and Eternity was able to mask himself. Why Nebula needed time to adjust to the gauntlet..etc.
Space, power, reality, and time...all easily accomplished by ION. He's everywhere at once and part of everything and his power is unlimited.
Soul - Even Parallax was able to resurrect, Ion is more powerful...and the rightful owner of OA's unlimited power. Even the current weaker version of Ion can resurrect.
While Thanos was out foolishly flaunting bravado and being emo for death...Kyle was fixing the universe while in bed.
Thanos lost the IG by becoming one with the universe. Warlock was able to hide from the IG in plain sight.
Equal power for the most part... one wiser in using it than the other. Kyle was only able to lose his power if he gave it up. Thanos could lose it if he lost the gauntlet.
Last but not least - in the one xover they had... Thanos surely wanted OA's power to destroy existnece..but yea..no power there. LOL
u keep saying ion was able to ressurect. so could thanos he had completel mastery of all these while ion dabbled in them and was never described a having mastered time.
think of it this way thanos could have went back in time to defeat everyone but was powerful enough to face them all head on. ion never showed any feats like thanos. to say ion is more powerful than thanos is laughable. no feats to prove otherwise just ur opinion with no real weight to it. kyle could lose if he met a more powerful being with the same to thanos. imagine the heart vs either. curbstomp.
ion could not have defeated thanos by any means. any skill by ion would matched by thanos and then some. thanos was far more powerful. he could kill enemies by snapping his fingers.
power my friend.
Originally posted by Galan007
But raw power, shouldn't be all that defines whether or not character A is greater then character B.We know for sure that Lucifer > Death and Dream.
But since he will always be bound by Destiny, is Lucifer truly greater then him?
No, imo.