Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYou're getting SW I, and SW II confused (as darth said).
The smaller events may be cannon. But the part where the Beyonder or MM being more powerful than the LT were retconned. Thus The the events pertaining to the LT are cannon how?
SW I = 100% canonical
SW II = retconned
Originally posted by Galan007
You're getting SW I, and SW II confused (as darth said).SW I = 100% canonical
SW II = retconned
What i'm not confused about is that the LT back then was weak. He didn't have any of the feats he has now. They keep saying the LT was never retconned, when actually he was. When the omniverse was created, discovered, he instantly became the judge over an omniverse. When the megaverses where created, it was he and the spectre who passed judgement on how they would form. He didn't have those powers back then. Am I correct in this line of thinking? And yeah I guess I got the two stories mixed up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What i'm not confused about is that the LT back then was weak. He didn't have any of the feats he has now. They keep saying the LT was never retconned, when actually he was. When the omniverse was created, discovered, he instantly became the judge over an omniverse. When the megaverses where created, it was he and the spectre who passed judgement on how they would form. He didn't have those powers back then. Am I correct in this line of thinking? And yeah I guess I got the two stories mixed up.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Not having the feats back then that he does now doesn't necessarily mean a recton, otherwise every issue of every comic would recton every character featured because they would all have something else to their credit that they were lacking previously. Now I understand what you're saying about LT not SHOWING as much power back in the day, but he's never actually been the subject of a recton to my knowledge.
So what if The one above all Creates something bigger than an omniverse and the LT is automatically put over it. He hasn't gotten a retcon but one can assume that he is now more powerful than ever as his judgement extends beyond an omniverse. This is what I'm saying. Back then, he was only judge over the multiverse. The area that the beyonder came from was a void. I'd wager this area is now smaller than the omniverse as the beyonder's universe was only so many times bigger. While the omniverse is truly infinite. So going by this, The Current LT must infact be more powerful than his depiction in the SW and the beyonders. Since the beyonder wasn't over the Marvel Multiverse. The MM was there to challenge his might.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlthanos foguht tougher beings and tougher odds all at once. thanos had access to more options as well. he could defeat ion however he wanted to. lots of possibilites when u have control over time,space,soul,power,mind,reality dont u think. thanos wins anyways he wants to.
How does he curbstomp someone with obviously more power? He only wins becuz he has access to areas of influence Ion does not. He doesn't curb stomp him. You give an opinion with no weight. Back it up. What has the IG done that is more poweful than the multiversal power of Ion? Nothing.
read ig if u want to see what hes capable of. far more than ion has demonstrated on panel.
Originally posted by Mr Master👆
He could have an IP adddress for "E" and another for himself.This can be easily accomplished by using a different cpu for each account.
That's just a ploy to differentiate himself from the "E" (the Sock account)
Got caught the first time around using the other Sock account "eyesofgod" because he was debating exactly like himself, he know's that was too easy to spot now, so now we have "E" asking questions like "who's Mxy?"
😆 (quite slick if you ask me ... but it's been done before)
Someone has learned the tricks to the trade in the Socking business,
the kid's becomin a pro, Judge style.The weakness though, that will always blow his cover?
That unique intransigence that is paralleled by none.
Simple solution, use Two CPUs ... 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWhat's changed for LT since the days of SW II?
What i'm not confused about is that the LT back then was weak. He didn't have any of the feats he has now. They keep saying the LT was never retconned, when actually he was. When the omniverse was created, discovered, he instantly became the judge over an omniverse. When the megaverses where created, it was he and the spectre who passed judgement on how they would form. He didn't have those powers back then. Am I correct in this line of thinking? And yeah I guess I got the two stories mixed up.
1.) LT is now judge of the Omniverse, not merely a single Multiverse. Does that = a retcon though? ❌
-LT simply got a "cosmic promotion", so to speak, as Marvel decided to expand their company.
2.) LT demonstrates more on panel nowadays, then he did back then. But does that = a retcon? ❌
-ALL of comics (Marvel and DC alike), have become much more feat oriented over the years.
Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos foguht tougher beings and tougher odds all at once. thanos had access to more options as well. he could defeat ion however he wanted to. lots of possibilites when u have control over time,space,soul,power,mind,reality dont u think. thanos wins anyways he wants to.read ig if u want to see what hes capable of. far more than ion has demonstrated on panel.
Actually I know about the IG. Thanos only has on panel power over Souls and the mind that Ion does not. And I"m not even sure about that. But in all other areas, Ion is superior to Thanos with I/G
Originally posted by Galan007well nothing u say will change my mind on this. i ahve seen nothing but on panel statements about michael and other top dogs at vertigo with u backing them up with no scans of any real meat to them.
Nope.I debate nothing but what's stated or shown on panel.
Just because you disagree with me, doesn't mean I favor DC more. 🙂
just how i feel is all.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlhes not superior to thanos in anything prove it. thanos wins this as u have agreed with me. i think its a cursbtomnp and u dont. so ur wrong there but u have agree that thanos wins regardless.
Actually I know about the IG. Thanos only has on panel power over Souls and the mind that Ion does not. And I"m not even sure about that. But in all other areas, Ion is superior to Thanos with I/G
😛
feels good.
Originally posted by quanchi112That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. 🙂
well nothing u say will change my mind on this. i ahve seen nothing but on panel statements about michael and other top dogs at vertigo with u backing them up with no scans of any real meat to them.just how i feel is all.
😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
well nothing u say will change my mind on this. i ahve seen nothing but on panel statements about michael and other top dogs at vertigo with u backing them up with no scans of any real meat to them.just how i feel is all.
😉
So how you feel>>> ON panel evidence already presented? 😕 😕
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm talking about when the LT and his hooded spectral ally conferred about the two mega verses in the LT's hand.
You have absolutely NO proof whatsoever that was refering to the Spectre.
And if it was Spectre,
this means Spectre is part of the Marvel Omniverse,
in which case Roma can erase the DC Reality any time she wishes:
"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse CEASES TO EXIST"
Do you agree that Roma can Erase DC from Marvel?
I didn't think so.
In the same way, Spectre has nothing to do with Marvel's Cosmology.
Originally posted by Galan007
What's changed for LT since the days of SW II?1.) LT is now judge of the Omniverse, not merely a single Multiverse. Does that = a retcon though? ❌
-LT simply got a "cosmic promotion", so to speak, as Marvel decided to expand their company.
2.) LT demonstrates more on panel nowadays, then he did back then. But does that = a retcon? ❌
-ALL of comics (Marvel and DC alike), have become much more feat oriented over the years.
👆
Originally posted by Mr Master
You have absolutely NO proof whatsoever that was refering to the Spectre.And if it was Spectre,
this means Spectre is part of the Marvel Omniverse,
in which case Roma can erase the DC Reality any time she wishes:
"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
CEASES TO EXIST"
"By breaking it, that [B]Entire Portion of the OmniverseDo you agree that Roma can Erase DC from Marvel?
I didn't think so.
In the same way, Spectre has nothing to do with Marvel's Cosmology. [/B]
Roma couldn't erase DC's universes if she wished if Spectre was part. He wouldn't allow her. Just like she can't do it in Marvel. The LT supercedes her. And it's obviously the spectre. The companies do stuff like that all the time.
