multibattle

Started by Soljer8 pages
Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
If there's a chane in stamina, chances are that strength is involved. If this is some magic comic, then I'll concede and back off.

Exactly! You're saying if the stamina changes, the strength changes. Whether that's true or not, it doesn't matter!

What WOULD matter is if STRENGTH changes, stamina changes. It doesn't.

So you're still off topic, unable to grasp that fact, and are ignoring that the divide in strength, by the original post, WAS magic.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Forum Rule #0:

What the OP says goes no matter how stupid it seems.

Yeah, I'm going to back off.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I never said he would change permenantly, mane. I said, Stamina effects strength. Spider-man can't lift 25 tons at any given time no matter what. Taxing his stamina will deplete his strength.
No, taxing his stamina will deplete his energy, eventually. Spider-Man has the capacity to lift 25 tons, but does not always have the energy.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I just posted definitions for stamina. Plus, when you use stregth certain things correlate to endurance I.e. bracing.

Your links aren't working.

If Spider-Man can lift 25 tons, and you halve his stamina, at the begining of the day he will still be able to lift 25 tons. Do you disagree?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Because the definitions are different, wow. seriously, do you work out?
Yes I do, but that doesn't matter. And it's not about the definitions.

If I have the capacity lift a car, and you lower my stamina I'll still have the capacity to lift a car, and at the begining of the day I could. Later on, if I'm dead tired, I'll still have the capacity but not the energy. If my stamina had not been lowered, then I may still have the energy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah he's still a class 25. He just can't lift 25 tons.

Makes sense 😐

Because he lacks the energy, not the ability. His body still has the capacity to lift 25 tons, but doesn't have enough fuel. And, even by taxing stamina, he could still have the fuel, but not for as long.

No direct correlation.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Stamina is about how long you have energy to do anything.
And therefore about time. If I decrease stamina, I don't directly decrease amount of energy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How could you have the capacity to do something if you simultaneously lacked the ability to do it?
I answered with the first quote.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
No, taxing his stamina will deplete his energy, eventually. Spider-Man has the capacity to lift 25 tons, but does not always have the energy.

Energy, which is required for strength. 😬

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph

Your links aren't working.

If Spider-Man can lift 25 tons, and you halve his stamina, at the begining of the day he will still be able to lift 25 tons. Do you disagree?
Yes I do, but that doesn't matter. And it's not about the definitions.

Links are irrelevant, it's the definitions that matter.

That spider-man scnerio is ridculous, because no one can halve your stamina like magic. Tax your stamina and see if they have no effect on your strength. Furthermore, Strength is not just about lifting, my dude.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph

If I have the capacity lift a car, and you lower my stamina I'll still have the capacity to lift a car, and at the begining of the day I could. Later on, if I'm dead tired, I'll still have the capacity but not the energy. If my stamina had not been lowered, then I may still have the energy.

Refer to above, and I already gave you examples of people being dead tired and not lifting their max. No offense, but stick to talking about comics.

Example - Stamina - does a car have the capacity to drive, even if it's outta gas?

Sure.

Strength - does a car have the capacity to drive if it doesn't have enough horsepower to push it's frame forward?

Nope.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Because he lacks the energy, not the ability. His body still has the capacity to lift 25 tons, but doesn't have enough fuel. And, even by taxing stamina, he could still have the fuel, but not for as long.

No direct corelation.

I see your point.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
And therefore about time. If I decrease stamina, I don't directly dicrease amount of energy.

What? If you have less stamina you have less energy by default.

It takes energy to do work. Stamina is how long you can do work. If you drop stamina you have to drop energy.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Energy, which is required for strength. 😬

Links are irrelevant, it's the definitions that matter.

That spider-man scnerio is ridculous, because no one can halve your stamina like magic. Tax your stamina and see if they have no effect on your strength. Furthermore, Strength is not just about lifting, my dude.

Refer to above, and I already gave you examples of people being dead tired and not lifting their max. No offense, but stick to talking about comics.

Yes, someone CAN halve a statistic like magic - the original poster can.

Originally posted by Soljer
Example - Stamina - does a car have the capacity to drive, even if it's outta gas?

Sure.

Strength - does a car have the capacity to drive if it doesn't have enough horsepower to push it's frame forward?

Nope.

When did cars have stamina?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
When did cars have stamina?

It's a metaphor.

Go to the fourth grade. Directly to the fourth grade. Do not pass Go. Do not collect diploma.

Originally posted by Soljer
It's a metaphor.

Go to the fourth grade. Directly to the fourth grade. Do not pass Go. Do not collect diploma.

You mean an analogy, drop the insults because your up here arguing that less gas will effect a cars ability to do work?

I never knew my car would go slower because it has less gas.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
You mean an analogy, drop the insults because your up here arguing that less gas will effect a cars ability to do work?

I never knew my car would go slower because it has less gas.

An analogy utilizes the word 'like' or 'as.'

Try not to correct someone when you're a moron.

Originally posted by Soljer
An analogy utilizes the word 'like' or 'as.'

Try not to correct someone when you're a moron.

That's a similie.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Energy, which is required for strength. 😬
It's about direct correlations.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Links are irrelevant, it's the definitions that matter.

That spider-man scnerio is ridculous, because no one can halve your stamina like magic. Tax your stamina and see if they have no effect on your strength. Furthermore, Strength is not just about lifting, my dude.

They can in a forum thread. The situation in this thread is ridiculous, and the scenario I presented was not dissimilair.

Whether the strength it applied to lifting or not is arbitrary.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Refer to above, and I already gave you examples of people being dead tired and not lifting their max. No offense, but stick to talking about comics.
Because they lacked the energy, not the capacity. The stat Strength, is refering to the capacity to lift, not the ability at any one moment due to energy.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
That's a similie.

Damn, I was hoping you'd pull 'similie' on me.

Regardless, I didn't mean analogy, I meant metaphor.

Oh, and nice edit. Hide your ignorance. 🙂.

Originally posted by Soljer
Damn, I was hoping you'd pull 'similie' on me.

Regardless, I didn't mean analogy, I meant metaphor.

Okay, but did you have to be an ass about by calling me a moron and a fourth grader. Is that how adults debate?

Originally posted by Soljer
Hide your ignorance. 🙂.
I edited before I read your post.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Okay, but did you have to be an ass about by calling me a moron and a fourth grader. Is that how adults debate?

When they're debating with someone who can't grasp a simple fourth grade concept? Absolutely.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I edited before I read your post.

If you say so.

Originally posted by Soljer
When they're debating with someone who can't grasp a simple fourth grade concept? Absolutely.

Stamina is a fourth grade concept yet you got it wrong. 😬