I do not like humans.

pls take the time to watch the video clip on Liberty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVlfTIOwaM

And I am not advocating any party line at all. Just the basic concept of liberty, and how we are suppose to treat each other and how we esteem ourselves with respect to our ability to respect others. And I am not advocating drugs or other stuff, or even objectivism, not hardly. btw, there are a lot of things i would not recommend, but out of political correctness, i don't tell another person not to smoke cigerates, etc. and b/c freedom of speech could cost a person's job, it's better not to talk too much.

Humanity will destroy itself, we are really the evilest animal on Earth.

thats a tautology

we are the only animals capable of evil because evil is a human concept

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Give it some more thought please. As 'superiour' as us humans are, we are born in a society that pretty much demands us to assist in the destruction of nature in order to survive for ourselves on a individual basis. We just have little choice, but that doesn't mean you can't disagree on how we handle the planet.
Stating suicide as an answer to criticism just reminds me of the worst that human history has to offer, and I do think you have more sense than that.

You should really have more sense... the thread starter didn't pose his stance on "humanity is destructive, 'we' should rethink our views", which is true. He posed his stance on "humanity is horrible; I'd be better if 'we' all died".

So, if he really thinks that, then lead by example, kill 'yourself' and make the world just a little bit better.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
It's nature, it's happened and will happen for millions of years. Get used to it.

That's exactly how I view Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, the Holocaust, etc. etc.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
That's exactly how I view Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, the Holocaust, etc. etc.

Really? You're missing the point then.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Really? You're missing the point then.

He's a total "bad-ass", that was his point.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I understood you weren't suicidal, (i've learned that people can think things so powerful, you would think it were true, and it's sad when the thinking is on the negative, it's sad, esp. if an empath might be able to tell the difference) but I felt the energy of others thinking that about you. It's funny, the labels we put on things: suidicial, crazy, unbalanced. When really, if we take the time to listen, we could understand more about each other. And yes, I felt the energy that you were suicidal so much, I was going to cut and paste a web site for help, that's how strong the thoughts were about your post.

I had a guy (white) tell me that he was with a dark black lady, and she had her baby with her (not his baby, her husband and her), and they were on some sort of work (nothing romantic). Well, he had to stop at an area in which the folks there just stared at them both, and the air was thick (they couldn't see the baby, just that she was holding one), and he said that the thought there was that he was her husband and while they ate, he said he was even thinking he was her husband b/c the thoughts about their situation was just that strong, careful about the mind of men, sometimes it's good and sometimes it's false. each of us has to be stronger then the group mind, esp. if it's out of jealousy, hate, envy, bitterness, and lastly, false assumptions and negativity, each of us has to do that.

labels and after we finish destroying, we look around and wonder (why is that person's life destroyed, why is our neighbhorhood destroyed, why is the company going down the tubes, why is that entertainer's mind going wild, why, why, why, what's wrong with humanity....what's wrong with not hurting others?

Originally posted by inimalist
thats a tautology

we are the only animals capable of evil because evil is a human concept

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Really? You're missing the point then.

Not even. It's only "nature" when it's animals or humans/animals. People have been waging war ever since our beginning but suddenly in the last 40 or so years it's suddenly "wrong". War and killing each other is "nature" for humans also.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I had a guy (white) tell me that he was with a dark black lady, and she had her baby with her (not his baby, her husband and her), and they were on some sort of work (nothing romantic). Well, he had to stop at an area in which the folks there just stared at them both, and the air was thick (they couldn't see the baby, just that she was holding one), and he said that the thought there was that he was her husband and while they ate, he said he was even thinking he was her husband b/c the thoughts about their situation was just that strong, careful about the mind of men, sometimes it's good and sometimes it's false. each of us has to be stronger then the group mind, esp. if it's out of jealousy, hate, envy, bitterness, and lastly, false assumptions and negativity, each of us has to do that.

😕

what's wrong with not hurting others?

All of this is going to sound like a rant, but please bare with me. And I really want you to think about "what's wrong with NOT bothering or hurting someone?" That means, "what's wrong with forgiveness?" (don't let the karmic folks hear that, as they think it's crazy to ask for forgiveness, as they want negativity to keep recycling around and around, if one forgives, the negativity is "out of an application" for that other person and doesn't get to be passed around).

Ok, here's the rant...

here's a great movie to watch: StarDust

It's a movie about how people who are in the "know" about gifts and use it for their own selfish objective or punish the person for being born of it (jealousy envy).

See, if everyone wanted negativity or enjoyed seeing others as less then them, guess what you have? A growing epidemic of folks who are without, and those who aren't part of that culture may happen upon that area or people who you knew (that you were so jealous of that you had to see them in a lower position in life), and galk at the destitution, sure "you" are together, but at the sake of what?

Another point is that, let's say a person's gift is like gold. And people who are jealous hearted or envious are upset you own that gift, so they want to degrade your gift/worth for the world to see. So, they want you essentially under their feet. Let's say, another group sees the spec of gold under your feet and asks to look at it. You think, it's under my feet and I have control now, so let'm see it or use it. The other person or group, sees the spec, figures out it's properties, finds out any mutual association with the group, and works out a complimentary deal in which it uses that gift for the positive and which benefits both parties. Guess what the jealous hearted person is going to do? guess? It's one thing to have a gift, it's another to be around others who want you under their feet b/c of it, and it's even more when they label that person in such a negative way, NO ONE SEES THE VALUE of the gift.

And if they can accomplish this one person at a time, they can put themselves in the same seat of power that they claim is so evil and elitiest.

And they can try to hide the fact that anyone else outside of their cultural mindframe will galk at the idea of total destitution and lack of ingenuity, b/c the ones with any sort of gift are busy being under a foot.

And they can visit other cultures in amazement, asking themselves "why are they in a better condition?"

Humans, the mind, the collective mind, objectivism, selfishness, alturism, love, liberty, and constitition.

Look up the meaning of the word "constitution", it means "established" or "composition". Think about what makes man so evil or unlikable. What's the composition, in thoughts? In the collective mind? In objectivism/selfishness? In alturism (too kind)? In liberty (too gracious)? What aspect of man is the problem.

And in order for someone to be an empath, the would be more toward an altruist then objectivist (that should be very obvious by now).

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Exactly, evil did not exist before us(unless you believe in the Devil).

And in order for someone to be an empath, the would be more toward an altruist then objectivist (that should be very obvious by now).

Originally posted by debbiejo
Evil really is a label we give to "what we like and what we don't like." Everybodys evil is different.

Someone who is known as an empath is very empathic..ie empathy. If the whole world was this, then we'd understand what we do and say with more control, because it hurts. Empaths are known to hurt a lot because they take on feelings of others and are more careful not to do it to others. They are the helpers, healers, of humanity, they say. Imagine a world of these sort of people. People who really feel and care. It is said that these people suffer from "helping syndrome".

I am an empath, and I understand. And yes, we do feel and sometimes, we do end up with folks who amplify the negative, empathy is a gift,and some folks do not like gifts in other people, and yes, even an empath can feel that and maybe worse, experience their negative actions in life b/c of it.

there was a real story that was on some crime channel, it was about a lady who was an empath/psychic and she was going crazy, come to find out, her neighbor was channeling her and, uhm, messing with her mind, so, she "heard" weird things that didn't make sense and saw things that were totally strange, and they did end up figuring out it was him, but it took awhile. A person can figure that someone can "hear" and they can take that great gift, as it can be a gift and not a peeping-tom issue, take that same gift and drive that person batty for a bit, but those things do come around too, not to focus on karma, but they do end up coming around in a way that the person with the gift never has to bother one bit, as that gift is from God, and so, as a person of God, that person doesn't have to ill wish or do anything at all but go on with life. But these things are found out, esp. if that person was abused for "owning" or "having" a gift.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I am an empath, and I understand. And yes, we do feel and sometimes, we do end up with folks who amplify the negative, empathy is a gift,and some folks do not like gifts in other people, and yes, even an empath can feel that and maybe worse, experience their negative actions in life b/c of it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Empaths can go into a mall and suddenly feel uncomfortable and not no why. Empaths are really prone to strong emotions of Empathy, sorrow, saddness.

Empaths can also feel intentions online, and can have "insight" into clever ways in which their gifts are distorted into something crazy, no wait, that's logic. 😛

Seriously, an empath is like any gift, some are stronger in intinsity then others.

And it's one thing to read and another to interprete.

See, reading (as empath's read energy) requires interpretation.

And from the little I know about gov'n laws and religious laws, both end up with various interpretations, using logic, but it's a matter of perspective.

So, an empath may interpret something, but depending on maturity, intensity, etc., these interpretations could be inaccurate, as they may feel FEAR if someone puts that out that energy hard enough for that empath to feel, but it may be just a trick, a game to drive that person crazy for a moment, if that feeling is too intense, depending on the gift, I doubt that person will be able to pick up intent (joke), I think they are going to pick up on DANGER. So, people can take gold, even a spec, and put it under their feet out of whatever motivation (ego, jealousy, envy) and someone else can take that same gift and with mutual concent, turn both lives into something constructive and of value. It's never just about the gift, it's also about how others are willing to apply it, for the negative and amusement, or for the positive and contruction/productivity? When someone has a gift like that, they are in a relationship with the energies of others, so the success of both parties depends on the application of the gift, for the negative/amusement or for the positive/construction/productivity. Drive that person crazy or see if they can't help solve a crime, ops, maybe that person did, and now, they are to be driven crazy for a moment b/c of it, or their gift or name in a degraded form b/c of it. Life, never so simple is it?

Well there is a difference in reading things on line compared to being amongst people. There are also differences in cognitive thinking and up bringing, though upbringing can make one have more empathy. Empathy is the soreness of an empath. They usually do not enjoy it. From what I have read, they don't absorb anger at all. It is too intense in the feelings of being able to put themselves in the others shoes. They might see something as envy, etc as what it is doing to a person....but what they feel is the sadness of the person mostly, not the anger....The name empath comes from Empathy. They can usually walk into a room and pick up on the feelings there. Usually the one that is hurting.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well there is a difference in reading things on line compared to being amongst people. There are also differences in cognitive thinking and up bringing, though upbringing can make one have more empathy. Empathy is the soreness of an empath. They usually do not enjoy it. From what I have read, they don't absorb anger at all. It is too intense in the feelings of being able to put themselves in the others shoes. They might see something as envy, etc as what it is doing to a person....but what they feel is the sadness of the person mostly, not the anger....The name empath comes from Empathy. They can usually walk into a room and pick up on the feelings there. Usually the one that is hurting.

The idea of not having anger or getting hot is not a good thing, as anger is a form of defense. So, the bad part of being an empath is that you can end up used like a old rug, it's a tricky world.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
The idea of not having anger or getting hot is not a good thing, as anger is a form of defense. So, the bad part of being an empath is that you can end up used like a old rug, it's a tricky world.