Dr Doom vs BatMan 1M

Started by Galan0075 pages

Originally posted by masterbruce
ummm, that's not a feat
Really?

Batman 1m has like 2 feats.

Originally posted by Galan007
Really?

no, your IQ is a 'characteristic', not a feat, which is something you 'do' to demonstrate your abilities

Originally posted by Soljer
Everyone here knows how subjective IQ's are. Not to mention the fact that one big number means nothing if there is not a smaller number to compare it to - maybe my memory is failing, but has Doom's IQ ever been stated on panel?
All I was thinking is that Ultimate Reed, (who's been nearly as impressive as his 616 counterpart, imo), has an IQ of 300.

But as far as the reasons why I think B1M takes this...

The ability to control and manifest extremely advanced tech + possessing New Genosian tech + avatar creating + gadgets like a "soul stealing" device.

Just my opinion. 🙂

Soul stealing won't work because with 30 min prep Doom can caste a spell to cancel that.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Soul stealing won't work because with 30 min prep Doom can caste a spell to cancel that.
Proof?

Originally posted by Galan007
All I was thinking is that Ultimate Reed, (who's been nearly as impressive as his 616 counterpart, imo), has an IQ of 300.

But as far as the reasons why I think B1M takes this...

The ability to control and manifest extremely advanced tech + possessing New Genosian tech + avatar creating + gadgets like a "soul stealing" device.

Just my opinion. 🙂

Not saying I think Doom wins, I just don't think that your reasoning is spot on. And Ultimate != 616, so it's really hard to compare the two like that.

Originally posted by Soljer
I just don't think that your reasoning is spot on.

Why?

Because these were the reasons I felt B1M could defeat Doom?:

The ability to control and manifest extremely advanced tech + possessing New Genosian tech + avatar creating + gadgets like a "soul stealing" device.

I think my reasoning is perfectly logical. 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
And Ultimate != 616, so it's really hard to compare the two like that.
I'm well aware that the Ultimate Universe and the 616 Universe are not the same.

But in terms of impressiveness on panel, Ult. Reed has been just as impressive as 616 Reed, (in terms of intelligence imo), and Ult. Reed's IQ = 300.... Just saying

However, that's not really any kind of point I'm trying to make lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why?

Because these were the reasons I felt B1M could defeat Doom?:

I think my reasoning is perfectly logical. 🙂
I'm well aware that the Ultimate Universe and the 616 Universe are not the same.

But in terms of impressiveness on panel, Ult. Reed has been just as impressive as 616 Reed, (in terms of intelligence imo), and Ult. Reed's IQ = 300.... Just saying

However, that's not really any kind of point I'm trying to make lol.

No, your reasoning that "A thousand is a lot, so Batman wins."

😬.

As to the end of your post, how have reed or doom's most impressive intellignece/tech feats compared to Batman 1M?

I could just as easily say that since Doom has done things I doubt many could envision said Batman accomplishing, CERTAINLY he would have to have a several-thousand IQ, rather than going the reverse direction and comparing him to UltiReed, who has a 300 IQ.

Originally posted by Galan007
Proof?

It's the bullshit benefit of doubt Doom gets in every thread that involves prep.

Originally posted by Soljer
No, your reasoning that "A thousand is a lot, so Batman wins."

😬.

As to the end of your post, how have reed or doom's most impressive intellignece/tech feats compared to Batman 1M?

I could just as easily say that since Doom has done things I doubt many could envision said Batman accomplishing, CERTAINLY he would have to have a several-thousand IQ, rather than going the reverse direction and comparing him to UltiReed, who has a 300 IQ.

You're stuck on that IQ statement.

As I've said a few times now, that's not my reasoning behind why I believe B1M wins. 🙂

Originally posted by Validus
It's the bullshit benefit of doubt Doom gets in every thread that involves prep.
Exactly.

[edit]

Kinda reminds me of Batman in this clip:

YouTube video

[Fast forward the clip to about 35 seconds left].

Originally posted by Validus
It's the bullshit benefit of doubt Doom gets in every thread that involves prep.

Dude knows magic on a pretty high level going out on a limb and saying that he can caste spell to protect his soul is reasonable.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're stuck on that IQ statement.

As I've said a few times now, that's not my reasoning behind why I believe B1M wins. 🙂

Fair enough, but you gotta be aware that it certainly sounded as if it were your reasoning that Batman is smarter because 1045 is a big number. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Fair enough, but you gotta be aware that it certainly sounded as if it were your reasoning that Batman is smarter because 1045 is a big number. 😬.
I posted B1M's massive IQ, and gave my reasoning behind doing so.

But never once did I make his IQ the basis as to why I feel Bats takes this. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
I posted B1M's massive IQ, and gave my reasoning behind doing so.

But never once did I make his IQ the basis as to why I feel Bats takes this. 🙂

No, but you DID use it as your reasoning that Batman 1M is smarter...

"Reed level intelligence is nothing to Batman."

"Why?"

"Cause his IQ is big!"

Originally posted by Soljer
No, but you DID use it as your reasoning that Batman 1M is smarter...

"Reed level intelligence is nothing to Batman."

"Why?"

"Cause his IQ is big!"

No.

I replied with, "Batman's IQ of 1045 perhaps?"

I then told you why I even mentioned that number in the first place.

Again, it was never any kind of basis for my decision. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
No.

I replied with, "Batman's IQ of 1045 perhaps?"

I then told you why I even mentioned that number in the first place. 🙂

Again, it was never any kind of basis for my decision. 🙂

Maybe not to you, but I'm sure that you can see how anyone else reading the sequence of posts could infer that it was, no?

Originally posted by Soljer
Maybe not to you, but I'm sure that you can see how anyone else reading the sequence of posts could infer that it was, no?
I don't see how. (Unless someone only looked at that one post).

Especially when in every subsequent post I made after the 1045 comment, I specifically said that wasn't why I felt Batman takes this. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't see how. (Unless someone only looked at that one post).

Especially when in every subsequent post I made after the 1045 comment, I specifically said that wasn't why I felt Batman takes this. 🙂

Only after someone called you on it, 😬.