Dr Doom vs BatMan 1M

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know(from your earlier post). That's actually why I brought up the off world tech available to Doom. Some people(not talking about you) have a bad habit of assuming that just because guys (like Supes or Batman 1M) have access to alien tech that it just HAS to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything found on Marvel Earth so I like to point out that while that's POSSIBLY the case, it's by no means definite because Doom and Reed have both created devices on par with any tech I've seen in comics.

Umm, Goober? New Gods technology IS leaps and bounds ahead of almost everything I've seen on Marvel Earth. 😬 I don't see Doom being able to create tech better than a motherbox. Or even creating something comparable.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Umm, Goober? New Gods technology IS leaps and bounds ahead of almost everything I've seen on Marvel Earth. 😬 I don't see Doom being able to create tech better than a motherbox. Or even creating something comparable.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What are the Mother Box's biggest feats?

doing utterly nothing against Doomsday

Originally posted by darthgoober
What are the Mother Box's biggest feats?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Box

Supes vs. H/P DD fight, Genesis box from "Rock of Ages", Orion's various uses of it, Oracle linking up to all the technology in the world, TP, energy manip, etc. It's a plot device, on par with a GL ring or Mjolnir in it's versatility.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Box

Supes vs. H/P DD fight, Genesis box from "Rock of Ages", Orion's various uses of it, Oracle linking up to all the technology in the world, TP, energy manip, etc. It's a plot device, on par with a GL ring or Mjolnir in it's versatility.

People say that all the time...but that's all they really do. Say that.

I wouldn't put a motherbox on the same level as a Lantern Ring, or Mjolnir. Nowhere near, in fact.

Originally posted by llagrok
I'd take Talisman's magic over Doom's any day of the week :/

While he is still very powerful, he is not the 2nd most powerful sorceror on Earth.

Bingo, even Shaman is above him and Witchfire who her father wanted to use her to rule the multi-verse. Oh those powerful Canadians

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Bingo, even Shaman is above him and Witchfire who her father wanted to use her to rule the multi-verse. Oh those powerful Canadians

Americans also 😄

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Box

Supes vs. H/P DD fight, Genesis box from "Rock of Ages", Orion's various uses of it, Oracle linking up to all the technology in the world, TP, energy manip, etc. It's a plot device, on par with a GL ring or Mjolnir in it's versatility.

But if the MB is as you say on par with Mjolnir or a GL ring, then I really don't see that as being beyond what Doom is capable of. Dooms tech has replicated the Power Cosmic(on par with GL ring), and has handled the likes of Thor's hammer before also. And again Doom's tech also incorporates magic and the amalgam has accomplished things that not even Doc Strange could do 😬 .

As I recall, Bats 1 Trill was like two feet away from an unconscious Batman when he took his soul.

And, Doom's shield would give him about three to five feet of room away from that thing...
Plus, would it even work through the shield?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
As I recall, Bats 1 Trill was like two feet away from an unconscious Batman when he took his soul.

And, Doom's shield would give him about three to five feet of room away from that thing...
Plus, would it even work through the shield?

Plus, would it even work if he was conscious?

Originally posted by Galan007
B1M in a stomp.

I read like half the first page and don't understand what the argument is.

Bats 1mill wins this. I know doom has magic, but Bats can counter it, and his prep is better.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I read like half the first page and don't understand what the argument is.

Bats 1mill wins this. I know doom has magic, but Bats can counter it, and his prep is better.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
As I recall, Bats 1 Trill was like two feet away from an unconscious Batman when he took his soul.

And, Doom's shield would give him about three to five feet of room away from that thing...
Plus, would it even work through the shield?

Doom steal the powers of Galactus one time. And fought against the Magus. And get out from hell. I give it to Doom.

But it would be a great fight.

Originally posted by Galan007
The main way for Bats to get around that, would be whether or not he is able to control Doom's tech.

His magic/tech amalgam, you mean.

I don't recall Batman 1M showing any knowledge of magic.

Anywho - I still haven't said who I believe wins this, even though it may seem I'm arguing for Doom. I'm not, really, I just don't think the Batman supporters have displayed enough to put 1M's intelligence, preparation, or technology these 'leaps and bounds' above Doom's.

By feats, of course.

Originally posted by Soljer
His magic/tech amalgam, you mean.

I don't recall Batman 1M showing any knowledge of magic.

One thing about the 1M series is that casual people could recreate any powerset as easily as people today download MP3's...even being able to stack them in combinations.

Now considering Bats is always a character ahead of the tech curve....that alone says a lot.

Doom is a badass...but his tech would be ancient by Bats 1M standards.

Originally posted by Galan007
Which is why I said, "whether or not." 🙂

I wasn't indicating that you said one or the other, Galan. I assure you that I can read. 🙂.

I agree that Batman 1M prolly wins. But It won't be a curb stomp. Dr. Doom is smart enough to counter REED. Reed pwned the marvel cosmics in an alter time line. Thanos respects Doom's intelligence. It's not a stomp. Especially since Doom is a wizard and a tech genious. He's like a mini Thanos. Give him some super strength and he'd rule.

Originally posted by Soljer
I wasn't indicating that you said one or the other, Galan. I assure you that I can read. 🙂.

I just wanted to make sure it was clear to everyone, that it's truly up in the air as to whether or not Bats could control Doom's tech, imo. 😄