Originally posted by Caps ConscienceI guess there's not,
What can Batman 1m do to counter Dooms Magik.
Because anything I say Bats can do, will just be countered with something resembling this post:
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Soul stealing won't work because with 30 min prep Doom can caste a spell to cancel that.
So.... srug
I know virtually nothing of Batman 1M, but I will say that I think that Doom's tech is being severely underestimated here. People have to remember that Doom doesn't just have some of the best tech on Marvel Earth, he's also mastered the tech of the Ovoids and the Microverse, both of which are astronomically ahead of anything found on Earth outside of Reed Richards lab. What's more, Doom utilizes an amalgam of science AND magic for his most impressive equipment, so I'm not sure that Batman 1M will be able to override Doom's control over it.
Originally posted by SoljerThat's your opinion.
Maybe Doom can use a spell, maybe he can't, but there is little evidence to suggest that Batman 1M would have been able to soul steal a resisting opponent. 😬.
One you are entitled too. 🙂
Originally posted by darthgooberI'm not sure B1M could overide Doom's tech either.
I know virtually nothing of Batman 1M, but I will say that I think that Doom's tech is being severely underestimated here. People have to remember that Doom doesn't just have some of the best tech on Marvel Earth, he's also mastered the tech of the Ovoids and the Microverse, both of which are astronomically ahead of anything found on Earth outside of Reed Richards lab. What's more, Doom utilizes an amalgam of science AND magic for his most impressive equipment, so I'm not sure that Batman 1M will be able to override Doom's control over it.
All I want to express is that B1M's tech of the 853rd century, is of New Genosian composition. It's not Earth based either. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
All I want to express is that B1M's tech, is of New Genosian composition. It's not Earth based either. 🙂
I know(from your earlier post). That's actually why I brought up the off world tech available to Doom. Some people(not talking about you) have a bad habit of assuming that just because guys (like Supes or Batman 1M) have access to alien tech that it just HAS to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything found on Marvel Earth so I like to point out that while that's POSSIBLY the case, it's by no means definite because Doom and Reed have both created devices on par with any tech I've seen in comics.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's your opinion.One you are entitled too. 🙂
So, from this comment, am I to take it that it's YOUR opinion that since Batman 1M could steal the soul from a knocked out human athlete, that he could CERTAINLY steal the one from a resisting sorcerer who has failsafe after failsafe installed and worked through?
Originally posted by darthgooberAgreed.
I know(from your earlier post). That's actually why I brought up the off world tech available to Doom. Some people(not talking about you) have a bad habit of assuming that just because guys (like Supes or Batman 1M) have access to alien tech that it just HAS to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything found on Marvel Earth so I like to point out that while that's POSSIBLY the case, it's by no means definite because Doom and Reed have both created devices on par with any tech I've seen in comics.
When I made my first post in this thread, I'd forgotten about Doom's mysticism.
Though I don't think it would give him anywhere near as great of an edge as some are claiming, I do think it would make this much closer of a battle.
And while I'd still give B1M the slight edge, (for aforementioned reasons of my own), it would be a very close battle imo.
Originally posted by SoljerI don't recall ever saying that.
So, from this comment, am I to take it that it's YOUR opinion that since Batman 1M could steal the soul from a knocked out human athlete, that he could CERTAINLY steal the one from a resisting sorcerer who has failsafe after failsafe installed and worked through?
I only recall listing that as one of my reasons why I personally feel B1M takes this. 🙂
Originally posted by SoljerDoom is still human, thus his soul could eventually be taken by Bats, imo.
So....well?
Now where the real debate lies is whether or not Batman's tech is able to control Doom's tech, and also the degree of magic Doom could conjure in that 30 minute time frame..
For those questions, there is no clear answer I'm aware of. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
Doom is still human, thus his soul could eventually be taken by Bats, imo.No where the real debate lies is whether or not Batman's tech is able to control Doom's tech, and also the degree of magic Doom could conjure in that 30 minute time frame..
For those questions, there is no clear answer I'm aware of. 🙂
Eventually? I agree.
But while he is still conscious and resisting? I don't think there's enough evidence to say with a certainty that he COULD.
Reasonable doubt, so to speak. If there isn't proof that he can, then, he probably can't. 😬.
Originally posted by SoljerMeh,
Eventually? I agree.But while he is still conscious and resisting? I don't think there's enough evidence to say with a certainty that he COULD.
Reasonable doubt, so to speak. If there isn't proof that he can, then, he probably can't. 😬.
B1M would just give Doom the same "Razzle-Dazzle" he gave to our era's Batman...
Psy-Blast + 853rd century Bat-Kick = KO = Soul Steal ftw.
Simple logic really. 😛
Batman one million takes the majority IMO.
As far as tech goes, one of Doom's most impressive inventions is a time machine, which by Doom's own accord is very unreliable.
Yet time traveling devices are pretty much standard equipment for everyone in the JLA one million, so that just goes to show how ahead of Doom Batman would be in the tech dept. And as was already said, if Batman's suit has the capacity to control Doom's tech, (which seems very plausible), then that's just one way he could take this, IMO.