M. Bison vs Kazuya Mishima

Originally posted by Sado22
figurative speech. i know it wasn't bottomless....otherwise kazuya'd never climb out of it and we'd never have tekken to begin with.

Jin owned Kazuya when Kazuya wasn't Devil. Jin on the other hand was accessing his devil powers as was clearly obvious...he even had his tattoos glowing. AND you're missing the point: Kazuya has Devil. Jin only has part of Devil in him. what DevilJin did was with that part of Devil in him.

no my bad. i thought you were talking about the Tekken4 part where Jin was ambushed. and are you serious? Jin sees people who work for his thus-far-very-caring grandpa and they suddenly open fire on him. naturally you'd be surprised. and they were Ak47's. quite a thing to be attacked by when you're not expecting it.
and if you want to talk about pwning, to give you a glimpse of what happens when one of the mishima's actually knows that armed soldiers are after him: kazuya (who got owned by Jin) practically killed all the soldiers who attacked him in Tekken4 intro. he wiped them all out and he did it with his barehands. so by your logic: pwning several attack force members and pwning them with your barehands>>getting mauled by 13 girls who you picked a fight with while having infinite power supply
you failed, amigo 🙁

again, you're knowledge in tekken is bad. read up more on it. heck, go to my site 😄

for the record, tekkenforces are special orps trained in mishima ryu style. proof? play tekken beat'emup modes from Tekken3, 4 and 5. they do mishima ryu moves. they even have the electric ki when they're doing some of the moves. so they are definitely not regular people.
on top of that if we go by your stupid A>B>C logic then its goes this way too:
wave after wave of Jacks<<<Kazuya<<<Jin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bison owned by his minions

he was ambushed. stop acting like it doesn't mean anything.

what?

you're point? at least if he had infinite power he won't RUN AWAY from 13 pvssies

and...this is about Kazuya. not Jin. if anything, Kazuya wasn't floored by the soldiers who came after him in Tekken4. far from that, he owned them royally with his barehands...as his prologue stated.

no, bison self destructed...and this was right after running away from little girls, a stinking ryu with a stinking karate gi and being engaged long enough by pussyboy Ken and another school girl...........long enough for Sagat to whip Ryu's pussyass like anybody else who can fight.

2. Which shows superior skill in human form, and superior power, ever though maybe his superior natural power(along with the Kazama's powers mind you) combined with his portion of Devil make Devil Jin more powerful than Devil Kazuya? Of course not. Also, who is to say that part of Devil in Jin, wasn't taken from Kazuya's portion, making the Devil in Kaz weaker?

3. Well actually I was at first until Fuuma brought it up. Bison would not even be blemished by an AK-47. Those soldiers are nothing special, a few of the dolls who Bison fought would beat them.

4. Your site sucks.

5. I never said they weren't skilled. But they have no feats at all, and are not even Low Tier, they are Bottom Tier at best. You were the one who started with your bullshit A>B>C logic shit like you always do, "Bison lost to 13 teen girls he's a pussy!!!" Those mass produced Jacks would be incinerated by Bison in a single move.

6. It shows shitty durability. Being pierced by a tranq lol.

7. The 13 Dolls>the Tekkenforce.

8. Of course, they are pussies cause you said so. Jin LOST to a squad of punk ass soldiers.

Probably cause Kazuya is smarter than Jin and wouldn't be taken by surprise as easily.

9. Bullshit. He tanked a nuclear missile, was still in one piece, and then was finished off by 50 calibur jet rounds. But of course Kazuya could definately take that right? 🙄

There was more than 1 nuke! But what ever...

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
...Right 😆

retreated against 13 supersoldiers>>>>>>soloed by an old man.

Can vape a cities>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>destroyed most of the bulletproof robots which is designed to fight, which is on the level of canon fodder.

Man I gotta find out what you tekken fanboiz are smokin, gotta be some good shit!

you sure know who's that old man right? let's see if those 13 supersoldiers survived when they got caught by honmaru blast.

you mean vape a city with his weapon? don't make me laugh.

you forget who was overhyping gouki's feats. don't be a fanboy... at least I was telling the truth. 😬

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
you sure know who's that old man right? let's see if those 13 supersoldiers survived when they got caught by honmaru blast.

you mean vape a city with his weapon? don't make me laugh.

you forget who was overhyping gouki's feats. don't be a fanboy... at least I was telling the truth. 😬

1. They probably wouldn't, I give you that. No one is saying they are on Hachi's level.

2. His weapon which is fed by his own power. And those robots would be incinerated by Bison...Easily.

3. Overhyping his feats? How?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Stop taking Sado's side, he's a hater.

1. They probably wouldn't, I give you that. No one is saying they are on Hachi's level.

2. His weapon which is fed by his own power. And those robots would be incinerated by Bison...Easily.

3. Overhyping his feats? How?

jaxx, I have my own theories.

1. ok.

2. did bison capable of destroying a city without his weapon?

3. tell me, did gouki ever moved with a speed of sound?

Originally posted by Vampire Savior
340.29m/s is the speed of sound...

Now to be 3000 leagues in the see and then travel to the surface with in 5min
(actually it was faster than that cuz the guy said somthin, the other dude responded and right after that the ship was in the air...WAY less then 5 min, but I'll just say 5)

16668 kilometers (equal to 3000 leagues) devided by 300 seconds (equal to 5 minutes) comes out to 55560m/s.

55560m/s>>>>>>>>Speed of sound
Akuma is WAAYYY Faster than Cloud.

That's pure true blue logic. Cloud can never hope to be that fast.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
jaxx, I have my own theories.

1. ok.

2. did bison capable of destroying a city without his weapon?

3. tell me, did gouki ever moved with a [b]speed of sound? [/B]

1. Don't really know.

2. That was based on the misinformation he went 3,000 leagues. His math was accurate though.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Sado is still a hater.

1. Don't really know.

2. That was based on the misinformation he went 3,000 leagues. His math was accurate though.

and I'm trying to play fair.

1. if he could, it's pointless to create a psycho drive.

2. 3000 leagues = 16668 kilometers according to VS. while earth's diameters = 12756.32 kilometers. you do the math

True. Meh.

😖leep:

On a side note, I think Bison's penis is bigger than Kazuya's. 131

🤨

Only in Chun Li's ending did he go to destroy Washington DC with a Psycho Crusher...

Originally posted by Sado22
no, bison self destructed...and this was right after running away from little girls, a stinking ryu with a stinking karate gi and being engaged long enough by pussyboy Ken and another school girl...........long enough for Sagat to whip Ryu's pussyass like anybody else who can fight.

M. Bison would mop the floor with Kazuya...how can this even be on the same lvl?

Alpha 3 Bison or "Psycho-Drive" Bison was ridiculously powerful, and is on par with someone like Gouki fully unleashed, Gill, or Oro utilizing 2 hands.

Remember, that Post-SFII Bison, meaning Alpha Bison was ridiculously powerful. He has telepathy, which has allowed him to mind control countless people across the entire world to do his bidding, Bison can levitate, and has shown that he can teleport, he unleashes pure negative energy with his Psycho Power.

Not to mention, Bison thrives in a world that is I'm sorry to say, is vastly more surreal then the Tekken World. In Tekken, you don't have people blowing up entire mountains or sinking islands with their fist. In Tekken, you don't have Gods that can Auto-Revive when they die, in Tekken, you don't have Goddesses that hop across clouds in a means of getting to a location.

Someone like Rose who is Bison's Half Light, wields Soul Power, which is a direct source of what Psycho Power is, and in Capcom is has been stated to be an endless source of Power.

Rose was the only character during Alpha that put a decent fight up against Bison, and she still got mopped by him.

So I'm still wondering here...how does Kazuya have a chance up against Bison...when someone like Rose, who has displayed powers vastly superior to Kazuya himself was easily beaten by Bison.

Bison's powers during Alpha where so ridiculous that he was the #1 most powerful character during the Alpha Series. Psycho Power, ability to levitate, telepathy, and the ability to teleport.

He would run circles over Kazuya all day, and mop him to the ground with ease while having a huge grin on his face.

Kazuya got beat by Heihachi during Tekken 2, the only way Kazuya becomes super Elite in Tekken is if he utilizes Devil, which is a joke really, considering he needs a "higher power" to be able to beat his own father.

Their's absolutely no way, Kazuya is on the same lvl as Bison, it's just madness to even think that.

This is why people call you a SF hater. Relax

On a side note, I think Bison's penis is bigger than Kazuya's.

1. Kazuya has died. Has no relevance to this debate, I just like reminding you.

2. Which shows superior skill in human form, and superior power, ever though maybe his superior natural power(along with the Kazama's powers mind you) combined with his portion of Devil make Devil Jin more powerful than Devil Kazuya? Of course not. Also, who is to say that part of Devil in Jin, wasn't taken from Kazuya's portion, making the Devil in Kaz weaker?

3. Well actually I was at first until Fuuma brought it up. Bison would not even be blemished by an AK-47. Those soldiers are nothing special, a few of the dolls who Bison fought would beat them.

4. Your site sucks.

5. I never said they weren't skilled. But they have no feats at all, and are not even Low Tier, they are Bottom Tier at best.

You were the one who started with your bullshit A>B>C logic shit like you always do, "Bison lost to 13 teen girls he's a pussy!!!"

Those mass produced Jacks would be incinerated by Bison in a single move.

6. It shows shitty durability. Being pierced by a tranq lol.

7. The 13 Dolls>the Tekkenforce.

8. Of course, they are pussies cause you said so. Jin LOST to a squad of punk ass soldiers.

as oppossed to:
-h2h
-picking the fight in the first place
-running away like a pvssy

Probably cause Kazuya is smarter than Jin and wouldn't be taken by surprise as easily.

9. Bullshit. He tanked a nuclear missile, was still in one piece, and then was finished off by 50 calibur jet rounds. But of course Kazuya could definately take that right?

Only in Chun Li's ending did he go to destroy Washington DC with a Psycho Crusher...

P.S. kirikaze can take my side or your side. its a free world. otherwise i'd lock you all up for infinite stupidity. and being infidels.

~osama-sama

...at least please show some respect to street fighter characters.

....i am. this is me respecting them. you wound't want to know what me "really hating them" would look like.

and...who started the whole flame the SF'er routine in these threads?
Jaxx has been doing it since he came here.

Originally posted by Sado22
what's the point? he still prefers being pegged by 13 schoolgirls 😛

and bison has died twice, and ran away from fights even more times

hey, don't use my lecture on me. i remember when i had to explain teh whole reason why Jin is stronger than Kazuya to you people in the first place. its even there on my site. Kazama powers, Mishima bloodline AND devil powers along with advanced mishima ryu, kazama ryu and kyokushin karate. he's practically a monster. [b]I was the one who explained it all to you while you guys were rambling on about how Jin is a pvssy.
but fact remains that not only is Jin incapable of controlling the Devil, but he also has only a portion of Devil. heck, Devil even says to Hachi in Tekken4 "i lost a part of myself". in fact, that's what Kazuya's main agenda has been in Tekken4: to get his full devil so he can be back at 100% of his power.
Devil is weaker than he was in Tekken4. but he's still stronger than Devil in Jin because deviljin is only a part of what Devil has. dah.

probably. but the dolls would get owned and even bison would owned if he didn't see them coming in the first place or if they worked for his relative who then come up and open fire on him RIGHT AFTER he did them a favor (jin beat ogre for hachi).

chair

joli and juni are also bottomtiers. they have no feats either. in fact, they have no feats AT ALL.

of course he is! if you have infinite supply of power and you go looking for a fight against 13 girls and then run away, then that makes you a pvssy too. infact, i'd even call you Dark-pvssy if that ever happens

lame comeback really. not only would he run away, but while Bison couldn't handle 13 girls, the Jacks are high infiltration robots with builtin weaponry and specifically designed for invasions.
the girls on the otherhands were designed to hunt down street fighters in one-on-one combat. and aside from pwning M. Pvssy, their only other accomplishment was getting mauled by everyone who fougth them.

he's a humanbeing. what does that have to do with durability. at least he didn't run away. at least he was jumped.
and, what makes you think they won't penetrate bison's flesh. in fact, ryu has also been tranq'd and so has Ken. heck, ryu was cut open by no-name thugs by a bottle to the head in SFA movie.

proof?

-it was h2h
-he was ambushed
-and they were armed with AK47's

as oppossed to:
-h2h
-picking the fight in the first place
-running away like a pvssy

probably. I like Kazuya way more than Jin anyway.

no he wasn't. Bison selfdestructed after charlie, chun-shemale-li and guile blew up the psycho drives. read up.
and there was no nuke, foo.

which is non-canon. FAIL.

P.S. kirikaze can take my side or your side. its a free world. otherwise i'd lock you all up for infinite stupidity. and being infidels.

~osama-sama [/B]

2. K. I actually am not really a huge fan of Bison, that doesn't really bother me at all.

3. Which means Jin>Kazuya. And you have no idea whatsoever how big Jin's piece of Devil is compared to Kazuya's, it could be LARGER for all we know.

4. Bison would take those bullets without a dent man. In one of his endings, he in fact DID take a nuclear warhead and was only finished off by 50 calibur rounds, the ending is noncanon, but so is Hwoarang's, and you like to use his for evidence that Jin has TK.

5. Lulz.

6. They are however superhumans with limited access to an infinite powersource, whereas the Tekkenforce are just really skilled soldier guys...

7. Well that's your opinion.

8. And were each one shotted by Kazuya and Hachi. 😐 Shit, they are bottom tiers too. Bison has shown the power to do a blast just like the Honmaru explosion under his own power, and doesn't blow himself up by doing it either.

9. Because he tanks nukes. 😬

10. They have names. 131

11. Getting owned by AKs is lol.

12. In an ending he tanked a nuke though.

this is supposed to be kazuya vs bison and devil vs shin bison. so why did both of you discuss about kazuya vs shin bison?

Cause Sado thinks Kazuya at normal levels would pwn Shin Bison.