Let's solve the AIDs pandemic in Africa

Originally posted by parenthesis
I thought that too, but I still believe in equal opportunity. Why should we have a world where some parts are rich and living, whereas others, are poor and dying. Shouldn't we make a world where everyone has a great life, not just ourselves. The world would be undeniably, much better that way.

What do you suppose should "we" do. And why should "we" do it?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What do you suppose should "we" do. And why should "we" do it?

I honestly hope you are joking.

You can't truly be this insensitive to the mass suffering of other people. If this were your country in crisis, and you had this situation, you'd be begging for someone else's concern.

I dunno man im pretty pessimistic about mankind in general. I would to like things get better but the way I see it its only a matter of time before we blow ourselves up.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I honestly hope you are joking.

You can't truly be this insensitive to the mass suffering of other people. If this were your country in crisis, and you had this situation, you'd be begging for someone else's concern.

Yes they suffer, but how should we even help? Our countries shouldn't use them, but why should we help them and how?

Originally posted by Bardock42

Yes they suffer, but how should we even help? Our countries shouldn't use them, but why should we help them and how?

I not sure about how, but the why is that I was under the impression that Europe took alot of resources from Africa.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I not sure about how, but the why is that I was under the impression that Europe took alot of resources from Africa.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't think so. But even if I did. By what right would I beg for it?

Yes they suffer, but how should we even help? Our countries shouldn't use them, but why should we help them and how?

How is one thing, but why is another.

If you can't see why wealthy nations such as United States and Germany should help a devestated continent like Africa, then I have nothing more to say.

We have very different mindsets. I'm not going to convince you to care.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
How is one thing, but why is another.

If you can't see why wealthy nations such as United States and Germany should help a devestated continent like Africa, then I have nothing more to say.

We have very different mindsets. I'm not going to convince you to care.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you think you can blame the bad state of many African countries on Europe?

Are you serious? 🤨 Dont they sell weapons to Africa so they can kill each other, isnt the actual economics not in favour of third world countries including Africa.

Europe has played a big part in why Africa is the way it is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you think you can blame the bad state of many African countries on Europe?

I don't know about that, but I can certainly blame the poor economy of South American on Europe and United States.

Europe and United States stole the riches from the Incan empire, which was once the source of all of pre-colonized Peru's power.

They really have very little now...sports and fashion are really thier only major powers of economy, and even that is overshadowed by the debt that Latin America is required to pay to USA...and for what ? I don't even know....

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I don't know about that, but I can certainly blame the poor economy of South American on Europe and United States.

Europe and United States stole the riches from the Incan empire, which was once the source of all of pre-colonized Peru's power.

They really have very little now...sports and fashion are really thier only major powers of economy, and even that is overshadowed by the debt that Latin America is required to pay to USA...and for what ? I don't even know....

Im pretty sure they did similar **** in Africa.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Am I right to assume there is no logical reason then? It is your mindset that makes you want to help?

No, I think you're wrong.

I find it so funny how you can critisize religions such as Christianity and Islam for being cruel, sadistic, and ignorant- because of what they had done throughout history, and because of thier oppressive actions against Gays and Atheists-

-but then think it's okay to ignore the mass suffering in Africa, and claim that we don't have to help them, because thier "smelly black people".

You're just as bad as anyone you critisize then.

If you don't care about the suffering in Africa, then don't. There's nothing I can do, nor care to do, because I am not responsible for you and your ways of thinking.

But don't continue to be a hypocrite in critisizing Christians or Muslims, because of thier rather oppressive practices, when your own moral stance leaves much to be questioned.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I agree, but the problem is most people don't care.

If something is not part of [b]my life, then why should it matter to me.---This is the kind of thinking that so many people adhere to.

And this is the ultamate problem. Most people don't see other humans as thier brothers and sisters, most people see other human beings as strangers of which we owe no responsibility or empathy to.

Only when someone already knows what its like to suffer so greatly, can they truly have empathy for the suffering of another. People who are generally spoiled, are also selfish, and think very inward. Once they learn humility, they start to open up to the lives and realities of others. [/B]

Originally posted by Alfheim
Are you serious? 🤨 Dont they sell weapons to Africa so they can kill each other, isnt the actual economics not in favour of third world countries including Africa.

Europe has played a big part in why Africa is the way it is.

They can sort out their problems.

Also, I mean the advances of Europe and North America are now partly also available in Africa, they wouldn't have the standard of living we had if they never met Europeans anyways.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I don't know about that, but I can certainly blame the poor economy of South American on Europe and United States.

Europe and United States stole the riches from the Incan empire, which was once the source of all of pre-colonized Peru's power.

They really have very little now...sports and fashion are really thier only major powers of economy, and even that is overshadowed by the debt that Latin America is required to pay to USA...and for what ? I don't even know....

Again, people only seem to see the bad parts. Like Africans and South Americans lived in a paradise before Europeans came. Truly, if Europeans had never found South America (and I am not denying that there went a lot of shit down) do you think they'd live better or worse there?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
No, I think you're wrong.

I find it so funny how you can critisize religions such as Christianity and Islam for being cruel, sadistic, and ignorant- because of what they had done throughout history, and because of thier oppressive actions against Gays and Atheists-

-but then think it's okay to ignore the mass suffering in Africa, and claim that we don't have to help them, because thier "smelly black people".

You're just as bad as anyone you critisize then.

If you don't care about the suffering in Africa, then don't. There's nothing I can do, nor care to do, because I am not responsible for you and your ways of thinking.

But don't continue to be a hypocrite in critisizing Christians or Muslims, because of thier rather oppressive practices, when your own moral stance leaves much to be questioned.

I was watching David Chapelle on youtube and he was like "You ever hear something that was so racist you didnt know how to react, your not angry your just shocked?".....im like did he say what I think he said?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Err...they could just...not kill each other?

So its ok to sell them weapons as well? Both parties are responsible

Originally posted by Bardock42

They can sort out their problems.

Not if you got somebody trying to make the situation worse.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Also, I mean the advances of Europe and North America are now partly also available in Africa, they wouldn't have the standard of living we had if they never met Europeans anyways.

Er you did notice how I didnt just mention selling of weapons but the unfair econcomics as well.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
No, I think you're wrong.

I find it so funny how you can critisize religions such as Christianity and Islam for being cruel, sadistic, and ignorant- because of what they had done throughout history, and because of thier oppressive actions against Gays and Atheists-

-but then think it's okay to ignore the mass suffering in Africa, and claim that we don't have to help them, because thier "smelly black people".

You're just as bad as anyone you critisize then.

If you don't care about the suffering in Africa, then don't. There's nothing I can do, nor care to do, because I am not responsible for you and your ways of thinking.

But don't continue to be a hypocrite in critisizing Christians or Muslims, because of thier rather oppressive practices, when your own moral stance leaves much to be questioned.

Well, that's your idea, but I criticize them because I am for the freedom of people. I think it is bad to do bad things to do to people, I also think it is bad to do "good" things to people for only their sake. People should not be put in danger and pain for no reason, but they shouldn't be pampered and be rewarded for things they don't deserve.

There is a difference between doing bad deeds and being required to do good deeds. It's not the same thing. I am not being hypocritical just because my approach is different to yours.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, that's your idea, but I criticize them because I am for the freedom of people. I think it is bad to do bad things to do to people, I also think it is bad to do "good" things to people for only their sake. People should not be put in danger and pain for no reason, but they shouldn't be pampered and be rewarded for things they don't deserve.

People in Africa dont deserve help? 🤨 What so African people are stupid?

Originally posted by Alfheim
So its ok to sell them weapons as well? Both parties are responsible

Yes, of course it is alright to sell them weapons. Why shouldn't it be.

Not if you got somebody trying to make the situation worse.

Who are you blaming?

Er you did notice how I didnt just mention selling of weapons but the unfair econcomics as well.

I agree with that. Doesn't relate to my point though. They wouldn't have the higher standard of living we had if they never met Europeans. Agree?

Originally posted by Alfheim
People in Africa dont deserve help? 🤨 What so African people are stupid?

Odd conclusion.

People don't deserve help for helps sake. If it makes you feel good to help them, go ahead, have fun. But don't require people that don't want to help them to do though. And you shouldn't feel better than them, you aren't just cause you use your money in different ways.