X-Men: Utopia

Originally posted by pr1983
i think it was one of the best arcs in a very long time... sure, the art was sickeningly bad at times, and im sure there were parts that just annoyed people, but when it came to portraying the x-men as grown up heroes with very human faults, wants and desires, i thought it did a good job...

To me he oversimplified things a lot of the time by trying to have everyone use "big words" and making ridiculously complex story lines. The biggest problem I have with all of Grant Morrison's works is that he tries to make everything too artsy and weird, when it's completely unnecessary and just takes away from the story.

Plus, he made a absurd backstory for the Phoenix force and portrayed Magneto as a drugged up genocidal maniac.

Originally posted by Grimm22
To me he oversimplified things a lot of the time by trying to have everyone use "big words" and making ridiculously complex story lines. The biggest problem I have with all of Grant Morrison's works is that he tries to make everything too artsy and weird, when it's completely unnecessary and just takes away from the story.

Plus, he made a absurd backstory for the Phoenix force and portrayed Magneto as a drugged up genocidal maniac.

well it wasnt magneto... 😛

i can see what you're saying, and to be honest, if you don't like it, at least you have a genuine reason, so i have no problem with that...

i still disagree though... 😛

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Well I'll be, it's about time

http://comics.ign.com/articles/845/845178p1.html

IGN Comics: The million dollar question: What's your run going to be about? Any specific villains you're planning to use? Any particular concepts you hope to explore?

Coleite: I'm still working out some details and truthfully I want to keep some surprises. But, you're going to see characters do **** that they've never, never done before. I'm really ****ing excited.

For me, the best kind of conflict is internal. The X-Men shouldn't always see eye to eye on every issue. No one ever does. In the end, those nearest and dearest to us are always our worst villains – our greatest nemesis - because we actually care about them. So - actually - there are no traditional villains in this arc. No Magneto. No Blob. No Toad. No Apocalypse. No Brood. Pretty much just X-men. Oh, yeah - and Ultimate Alpha Flight.

So I guess their villians?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
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Well I'll be, it's about time

So I guess their villians?

Of course.

They're Canadians.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
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Well I'll be, it's about time

So I guess their villians?

Have they ever been anything but?

UXM 495 Preview:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/007175598.cfm

Ick.. the sacred cow.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ick.. the sacred cow.

Yeah I know what you mean still in limbo though, that's the way I like my Sacred Cow.

I wait the day MJ steals the codename Marvel Girl.

Week 34 with a preview to the next issue.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12747

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So what Rogue drained all the power from him then? and how could he not overpower Mystique?

Originally posted by King_Mungi

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So what Rogue drained all the power from him then? and how could he not overpower Mystique?

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Strain 88 would have probably allowed her to drain both his power and his mind permanently.
As for how she overpowered him, well apparently she caught him by surprise when he let his guard down. That was her explanation of the event.
Also before Destiny died she saw everything that was going to happen, M-day, the Messiah Baby, Mystique killing Sinister. Mystique pressing the baby against Rogue and Rogue coming out of her coma. Except when Raven tried that last bit it didn't work.

This was PADS response :

Q: Mr. David, I just have one question I need answered: How on earth is Mystique able to harm Sinister, much less put him down? It seems the only thing around the Marauders/Acolytes team that could be capable of harming Essex is most likely Exodus. It’s just horrible to see someone with his track record be taken out like that.

A: And Lawrence of Arabia died in a motorcycle accident. The heights that one attains in life don’t always match up with the death that you meet. That’s simply the way the real world works. I kind of like the notion that you’ve got someone with this huge, horrific track record and he winds up getting sandbagged by someone you wouldn’t have expected. I mean, c’mon, it’s not like we had him taken down by Willie Lumpkin.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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Something like that I can accept but Sinister is pretty powerful, it shouldve taken more than a sec to have that effect on him. That touch was way too brief to kill him.

I want Micheal Pointer to pay the mutants a visit after reading Marvel Comics Presents #5 😖hifty:

I still don't see how Sinister was overpowered by Mystique, considering I can't recall a single time he was overpowered by much stronger people.

sinister's death is pure bullshit...that guy has got a HF that makes wolverine's look like a one legged guy in an f ****ing ass kicking contest. anyone wound he sustains no matter how mortal he will always heal from plus. a far as earthbound scientists he is third only to the Hi-Evo and the Jackal<-----(look him up) when it comes to cloning. he has been known to pull a thanos and "send in the clones", to stand in for him, so when it looks like he's dead you see him behind the scenes grinning manically. to end
A. there is no way he is dead
B. it would be foolish for marvel to kill him off after yrs of not having him in the spotlight.
C. even if he is dead its gonna be a clone
D. 100% guarantee that he knew that Mystique of all pplwould eventually betray him, and this is some mind f ****ing on his part

I don't see how "it would be foolish for Marvel to kill him off after years of not having the spotlight." How does being out of the spotlight make one more vital and less expendable.

His healing factor isn't a factor considering touching Rogue right now is basically instakill, and she'd absorb his healing ability as soon as contact was made anyway.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't see how "it would be foolish for Marvel to kill him off after years of not having the spotlight." How does being out of the spotlight make one more vital and less expendable.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
His healing factor isn't a factor considering touching Rogue right now is basically instakill, and she'd absorb his healing ability as soon as contact was made anyway.

Uh, when Sinister first popped up, Rouge tried absorbing his power, but his psyche was too powerful and he just took over her body.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Uh, when Sinister first popped up, Rouge tried absorbing his power, but his psyche was too powerful and he just took over her body.