Levels of Omnipotence

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Levels of Omnipotence

Please someone List for me the most powerful of these beings and or Artifacts from the Top to the Bottom

The IG
THe heart of the Infinite
the Living tribunal ( Classic)
The 616 eternity
The classic beyonder
the Current Omniversal LT
The True Beyonders
The infinites
Merlyn
Roma
Brian Braddock
Havok
White Crown Phoenix
Genis vell at his most powerful
MJJ
the Fury
HOM Scarlet witch

I need clarity on just who is omnipotent and who is nearly omnipotent.

The heart of the infinite sounds cool 🪩

I place my bets on that one 😄

When did we get to see the True Beyonders?

Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please someone List for me the most powerful of these beings and or Artifacts from the Top to the Bottom

The IG
THe heart of the Infinite
the Living tribunal ( Classic)
The 616 eternity
The classic beyonder
the Current Omniversal LT
The True Beyonders
The infinites
Merlyn
Roma
Brian Braddock
Havok
White Crown Phoenix
Genis vell at his most powerful
MJJ
the Fury
HOM Scarlet witch

I need clarity on just who is omnipotent and who is nearly omnipotent.

Imo.

The Heart of the Infinite
Classic Beyonder
The LT (only one LT in Marvel's history and he's never been retconned)
BeyonderS
......................................................................
IG
Fury (freakin plot device)
MJJ
Merlyn and Havok (tied imo)
Roma (but she manipulates everything so one can never truly tell)
Brian with Sword and Amulet
......................................................................
Wanda (HOM)
Eternity
Infinites
Genis
White Phoenix

Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please someone List for me the most powerful of these beings and or Artifacts from the Top to the Bottom

The IG
THe heart of the Infinite
the Living tribunal ( Classic)
The 616 eternity
The classic beyonder
the Current Omniversal LT
The True Beyonders
The infinites
Merlyn
Roma
Brian Braddock
Havok
White Crown Phoenix
Genis vell at his most powerful
MJJ
the Fury
HOM Scarlet witch

I need clarity on just who is omnipotent and who is nearly omnipotent.

This is my anonymous opinion 🙂

The heart of the Infinite
The Current Omniversal LT
The True Beyonders
The classic beyonder
Havok Nexus of all reality
The Living tribunal ( Classic)
The IG
MJJ
Brian Braddock
Genis vell at his most powerful
Merlyn
Roma
The infinites
White Crown Phoenix
The 616 eternity
The Fury Now someone will disagree they are IMO welcome to do so, but then please tell me how Fury would defeat a living universe.
HOM Scarlet witch you didn't mention her with the Chaos Wave so I assume its just regular HOM Wanda els she would be significant higher.

It should be noted that if it was possible I wanted to place some people at the same places but that wasn't apparently not a option

Re: Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo.

The Heart of the Infinite
Classic Beyonder
The LT (only one LT in Marvel's history and he's never been retconned)
BeyonderS
......................................................................
IG
Fury (freakin plot device)
MJJ
Merlyn and Havok (tied imo)
Roma (but she manipulates everything so one can never truly tell)
Brian with Sword and Amulet
......................................................................
Wanda (HOM)
Eternity
Infinites
Genis
White Phoenix


Ok for one, The LT that the Classic Beyoder scared was only multiversal then. He never held any mega verses in his hands and there was no om niverse, as per you, everything outside of marvel was the beyonder.

Ok for two, Eternity had trouble wrestling back the hand of an infinite. So they have to be far above him if he couldn't thwart thier will and had to appeal to them for the universes very life.

Merlyn is omniversal correct? how is the IG above merlyn?

The Infinites were shown to be more powerful than Eternity, but then crappy writing made it so they had to sacrifice one of their own to make a planet... PIS to the extreme.

Lining up Galaxies was a cool feat though.

Re: Re: Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok for one, The LT that the Classic Beyoder scared was only multiversal then.

The LT was supreme within the Marvel Reality below the Molecule Man.

The Beyonder scared the second most powerful entity in Marvel,
and defeated the most powerful being in Marvel as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He never held any mega verses in his hands and there was no om niverse,

The same Omniverse of today, came from the same Multiverse of then.

The LT didnt hold megaverses because there were none to hold,
and/or the stories he was involved in didn't required it.

But besides Molecule Man,
the LT has always been second only to one superior (TOAA/God)
no matter the time, whether it was one Universe or an Infinity of Universes.

The LT's status has never changed, only Marvel's size.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
as per you, everything outside of marvel was the beyonder.

Which I'm sure was far greater than two Megaverses.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok for two, Eternity had trouble wrestling back the hand of an infinite. So they have to be far above him if he couldn't thwart thier will and had to appeal to them for the universes very life.

That was an Aspect of Eternity, not the Totality.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Merlyn is omniversal correct? how is the IG above merlyn?

I should've ranked them side by side,

my bad on that one.

I honestly believe the IG can do anything on any scale if the proper wielder wishes it.

But I don't try and argue who can win between two omniversal busters.
For that, one needs evidence.

Based solely on panel feats though?

Merlyn > IG

Re: Re: Re: Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by Mr Master
The LT was supreme within the Marvel Reality below the Molecule Man.

The Beyonder scared the second most powerful entity in Marvel,
and defeated the most powerful being in Marvel as well.

The same Omniverse of today, came from the same Multiverse of then.

The LT didnt hold megaverses because there were none to hold,
and/or the stories he was involved in didn't required it.

But besides Molecule Man,
the LT has always been second only to one superior (TOAA/God)
no matter the time, whether it was one Universe or an Infinity of Universes.

The LT's status has never changed, only Marvel's size.

Which I'm sure was far greater than two Megaverses.

That was an Aspect of Eternity, not the Totality.

I should've ranked them side by side,

my bad on that one.

I honestly believe the IG can do anything on any scale if the proper wielder wishes it.

But I don't try and argue who can win between two omniversal busters.
For that, one needs evidence.

Based solely on panel feats though?

Merlyn > IG

Ok master, time does have relevance. if at the time, the LT only was multiversal in power, then he would have to be more powerful as he is the judge of all reality. if the reality is BIGGER, than his power is bigger. I dont know why you can't see this. Or admit this. you are the one who compared eternity to a child and a grown up. It's much harder to beat up a full grown up than a child.

you can't pick and choose when an aspect of eternity is can you? You are the one who says that everything is connected to the prime Eternity. So when it's convenient it's only an aspect, when it's not, all of marvel is part of the "aspect" of eternity that is the 616. What gives?

Originally posted by llagrok
When did we get to see the True Beyonders?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok master, time does have relevance. if at the time, the LT only was multiversal in power, then he would have to be more powerful as he is the judge of all reality.

But he's always been the Judge of all Reality.

It's just that all Reality was a Multiverse back then.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
if the reality is BIGGER, than his power is bigger.
I dont know why you can't see this. Or admit this.

Aren't you overlooking the fact that the Bigger Reality is what the Beyonder was?

You mentioned LT's feat holding the Two MegaverseS,

but Beyonder was the embodiment of Universe larger than Two Megeverses,
he encompasssed the Infinite Beyond in fact,
which to this day, the Omniverse is still expading into.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you are the one who compared eternity to a child and a grown up. It's much harder to beat up a full grown up than a child.

you can't pick and choose when an aspect of eternity is can you? You are the one who says that everything is connected to the prime Eternity. So when it's convenient it's only an aspect, when it's not, all of marvel is part of the "aspect" of eternity that is the 616. What gives?

Eternity 616 is special.

Every other Eternity is just an Aspect.

That was an Aspect.

Where is classic Beyonder now? How can a being that used to be this powerful make the list but is pratically unheard of now?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Where is classic Beyonder now? How can a being that used to be this powerful make the list but is pratically unheard of now?

he is retconned into a Inhuman Mutant (which is highly inlogical)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by Mr Master
But he's always been the Judge of all Reality.

It's just that all Reality was a Multiverse back then.

Aren't you overlooking the fact that the Bigger Reality is what the Beyonder was?

You mentioned LT's feat holding the Two MegaverseS,

but Beyonder was the embodiment of Universe larger than Two Megeverses,
he encompasssed the Infinite Beyond in fact,
which to this day, the Omniverse is still expading into.

Eternity 616 is special.

Every other Eternity is just an Aspect.

That was an Aspect.


But in the story, it was the 616 eternity. And You are missing the point, In 1985 there was only the multiverse. The Every expanding marvel is now an omniverse to which the LT now sites over. Even if the lt has always been over marvel, the marvel we know isn't the same as the one from 1985. So the LT is far superior to his old self now and to the classic beyonder.

Originally posted by Utrigita
he is retconned into a Inhuman Mutant (which is highly inlogical)

WHAT!!!! 😑
That's the biggest depowerment in the history of comics. Every time his name is used it should have a Secret Wars * beside it.

Originally posted by Utrigita
he is retconned into a Inhuman Mutant (which is highly inlogical)

While it's possible, it's just stupid :/

Originally posted by Utrigita
he is retconned into a Inhuman Mutant (which is highly inlogical)

Marvel.com spoiled it and revealed
that the Beyonder manipulated Xavier and company to believe that.

For reasons we will soon find out, in the next Beyonder involved arc.

In the July 07 Shaper of Worlds Bio,

Both Beyonder and Molecule Man still acquired their power from being Cube Beings.

Originally posted by llagrok
While it's possible, it's just stupid :/

No since the Inhuman gen and the Mutant works as two minus making a plus a Inhuman breeding with a Mutant will have a normal Child. (shown when The Inhumans moved there Home to the moon and Crystal and Magnetos son (cannot remember his name) have a child which was a 100% human.)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Marvel.com spoiled it and revealed
that the Beyonder manipulated Xavier and company to believe that.

For reasons we will soon find out, in the next Beyonder involved arc.

In the July 07 Shaper of Worlds Bio,

Both Beyonder and Molecule Man still acquired their power from being Cube Beings.


any idea when the next beyonder arc is?

Let me get one thing straight here Beyonder in 1985 was everything outside the current multiverse.
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondspacetime2pq7.jpg

But Mr Master you are saying that suddenly he's bigger then two megaverses when "all" he encompased was a multiverse much greater then marvels but still "only" a multiverse.
http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondermillionsofxmorepowerfu.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mephistovsthexmen19ru1.jpg

So he cannot be bigger then the current marvel Omniverse since he was only a multiverse that existed outside the marvel, nothing more nothing less and by logic his space would actually have lessend since the marvel has expanded. Thats just my Openion 🙂