Levels of Omnipotence

Lets see if a dictionary can help

Main Entry: 1om·nip·o·tent
Pronunciation: -t&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin omnipotent-, omnipotens, from omni- + potent-, potens potent
1 often capitalized : ALMIGHTY 1
2 : having virtually unlimited authority or influence <an omnipotent ruler>
3 obsolete : ARRANT
- om·nip·o·tent·ly adverb

Hmmmm Virtually

Main Entry: vir·tu·al·ly
Pronunciation: 'v&r-ch&-w&-lE, -ch&-lE; 'v&rch-w&-lE
Function: adverb
1 : almost entirely : NEARLY
2 : for all practical purposes

Hmmm almost entirley?
Maybe when its said true omnipotent it means entirley? and when it does not...well its not entirley

i am just adding some info for funs sake

Nearly omnipotent. Nigh omnipotent. Virtually omnipotent.

These are fine.

Omnipotent - 1
Omnipotent - 2
Omnipotent - 3

Is not.

these type of threads can make one crazy 🤨

Damn bottom of the page...

Originally posted by darthgoober
But if you think about it the reason there's a problem is because that word originates comes from OUR universe, and we don't normally think about anything outside of out universe(except in works of fiction). Humanity generally thinks in purely universal terms, so we haven't really taken the time to come up with a better classification system. In most people's minds there's a God or there's not, and if there is he's omnipotent. Why come up with a word to mean "unlimited reality warping within the boundaries of a single universe, but still subject to the power of beings whose power encompasses the power of more than a single universe" when not one really believes that such a being really exist?

Originally posted by Utrigita
How can a multiverse be greater then a megaverse???

A or the current Marvel Multiverse is not bigger than a current Marvel Megaverse.

Beyonder's Universe on the other hand,
was Quintillions of times bigger, than the Prime Multiverse of today.

The Prime Multiverse (which houses the 616 Reality)
is the no#1 Multiverse in Marvel.

There are other Multiverses,
but NO bigger and perhaps no smaller than the Prime Multiverse.

Well then ... a Megaverse is a "collection" of Multiverses
(how many exactly no one can say, but Definitely not an infinite # .

Every Multiverse Now in Marvel, individualy is a Drop of Water to an Ocean
when compared to Beyonder's Universe.

If each Multiverse is Drop of water,
Are there that many Multiverses in Marvel to make up an Ocean?

I'm positively sure there aren't. 🙂

Beyonder was ridiculous, that's why he was Retconned.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And he was a multiverse it stats that oure own multiverse was but a drop in comparison to his, so no matter how you IMO turn this, Beyonder was the total sum of a Multiverse that was infinitely greater then the marvel Multiverse but never the less his energy never expanded into more then a multiverse.

The thing is you're stamping the term Multiverse on both Entities
as though "Multiverse" meant the same thing in both cases,

when it does not.

The Marvel Multiverse,
and the rest of the Marvel Multiverses
are the same size as the Prime Multiverse was then,
it was the outer region of the Prime Multiverse
that separated and grew into another Multiverse.
(This is why Eternity's Consciousness only reaches across the Prime Multiverse)

Originally posted by Utrigita
And beyonders realm isn't the current omniverse, the omniverse expanded from the 616 reality into what is the omniverse today.

No doubt,
that's the Retcon story that came out Years after Beyonders classic era.

Beyonder's grandeur was interrupted Nov. 86'
when the New Universe was introduced,
the first other Universe Outside the Multiverse.

I now here that at one point that was the creation Beyonder created,
but I'm not too sure if that's conclusive.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I don't want to follow this track any longer we are basically just running in circles around each other, and we will continue to do so and that will be a waste of nvr's thread.

Cool then, I'm just saying it's a mix up of terms
because of the anamoly of supreme power the Beyonder was.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But if you think about it the reason there's a problem is because that word originates comes from OUR universe, and we don't normally think about anything outside of out universe(except in works of fiction). Humanity generally thinks in purely universal terms, so we haven't really taken the time to come up with a better classification system. In most people's minds there's a God or there's not, and if there is he's omnipotent. Why come up with a word to mean "unlimited reality warping within the boundaries of a single universe, but still subject to the power of beings whose power encompasses the power of more than a single universe" when not one really believes that such a being really exist?

👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
Damn bottom of the page...

But the thing is...

You simply are NOT omnipotent if a greater power exists, period.

"Nigh"-omnipotent is the term that should be used in cases where we have a very powerful being, but not THE MOST powerful being.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice.

But the thing is...

You simply are NOT omnipotent if a greater power exists, period.

"Nigh"-omnipotent is the term that should be used in cases where we have a very powerful being, but not THE MOST powerful being.

I agree with this. That's a plague that haunts both companies.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree with this. That's a plague that haunts both companies.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice.

But the thing is...

You simply are NOT omnipotent if a greater power exists, period.

"Nigh"-omnipotent is the term that should be used in cases where we have a very powerful being, but not THE MOST powerful being.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But again, that's the fault of the English language not the companies. For all intents and purposes Eternity IS omnipotent in that he can pretty much do whatever he wants within himself. There's not really a limit to his power, just his jurisdiction.

He's not omnipotent. He has beings roaming around in him that are outside of his influence.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But again, that's the fault of the English language not the companies. For all intents and purposes Eternity IS omnipotent in that he can pretty much do whatever he wants within himself. There's not really a limit to his power, just his jurisdiction.

That's true.

Originally posted by Galan007
According to Marvel,

ALL these characters are "omnipotent", but some are more "omnipotent" then others. ( 🙄 )

I know, I know..... It makes no sense at all, but that's just how things work I guess. 😬

Well, of course it doesn't make sense since it's a comic.

Originally posted by Galan007

"Nigh"-omnipotent is the term that should be used in cases where we have a very powerful being, but not THE MOST powerful being.

"Nigh" omnipotent is hyperbole.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Well, of course it doesn't make sense since it's a comic.

They have to make some sense in order for all of us with different view points to have a focal point of reference. 10 pounds in DC should still be 10 pounds in marvel. Ect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
They have to make some sense in order for all of us with different view points to have a focal point of reference. 10 pounds in DC should still be 10 pounds in marvel. Ect.

Yeah, how realistic can they get when you have characters how gain powers from being bitten by a radioactive spider? 😬

It's just a comic, and you can only go so far. All that science and realism simply adds depth to characters nothing more.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But again, that's the fault of the English language not the companies. For all intents and purposes Eternity IS omnipotent in that he can pretty much do whatever he wants within himself. There's not really a limit to his power, just his jurisdiction.

Why?

Because a greater power exists.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Yeah, how realistic can they get when you have characters how gain powers from being bitten by a radioactive spider? 😬

It's just a comic, and you can only go so far. All that science and realism simply adds depth to characters nothing more.

Even in comics, One isn't omnipotent if they can be beaten.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yet we know Eternity is not omnipotent in the literal sense.

Why?

Because a greater power exists.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Even in comics, One isn't omnipotent if they can be beaten.

I agree with that, unless they wanted to lose. shrug

Originally posted by darthgoober
Omnipotent is a description of the being's power, not the being's power in regards to everyone else.

And we know for a fact that particular being is not omnipotent.