Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by Utrigita
Let me get one thing straight here Beyonder in 1985 was everything outside the current multiverse.
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondspacetime2pq7.jpg

But Mr Master you are saying that suddenly he's bigger then two megaverses when "all" he encompased was a multiverse much greater then marvels but still "only" a multiverse.
http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondermillionsofxmorepowerfu.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mephistovsthexmen19ru1.jpg

So he cannot be bigger then the current marvel Omniverse since he was only a multiverse that existed outside the marvel, nothing more nothing less. Thats just my Openion 🙂

basically that is mine too.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
basically that is mine too.

Okay then thats oure openion and master are allowed to have his 😄

Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay then thats oure openion and master are allowed to have his 😄

As i've been stating. It's all opinion but to suggest, anyone is conclusive in thier opinion is crazy to me.

Originally posted by lordboo
any idea when the next beyonder arc is?

They didn't say, but supposedly soon.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Let me get one thing straight here Beyonder in 1985 was everything outside the current multiverse.
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondspacetime2pq7.jpg

Yea.

Originally posted by Utrigita
But Mr Master you are saying that suddenly he's bigger then two megaverses when "all" he encompased was a multiverse much greater then marvels but still "only" a multiverse.
http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beyondermillionsofxmorepowerfu.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mephistovsthexmen19ru1.jpg

Those aren't the right images that define the grandeur of BEyonder's Universe.

You say, "just a Multiverse greater than Marvels"

But it was actually the absolute Infinity Outside the Multiverse:

"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planet s... LIFE Arises"

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"

"Evolves and Flourishes Within the New Universe,
BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"

"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"

Originally posted by Utrigita
So he cannot be bigger then the current marvel Omniverse
since he was only a multiverse that existed outside the marvel,

No one said it was bigger than the current Omniverse.

Be thorough.

What I said was,

Beyonder's Multiverse was bigger than Two Megaverses.

And Beyonder wasn't "just a Multiverse"

Beyonder's Reality encompassed all the Space outside the 616 Multiverse.

That means
Beyonder's Universe was as big as the Omniverse minus a Multiverse.

Originally posted by Utrigita
nothing more nothing less and by logic
his space would actually have lessend since the marvel has expanded. [/B]

Again,

Beyonder encompassed all the Infinite Space outside the Multiverse.

This same Infinite Space is what makes up the rest of the Omniverse today,
outside the Multiverse.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As i've been stating. It's all opinion

For yall perhaps, but I'm stating Facts.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
but to suggest, anyone is conclusive in thier opinion is crazy to me.

It's a conclusive Fact,

that Beyonder was everything outside the Multiverse.

And everything outside the Multiverse,

is the rest of the Omniverse of today.

So Beyonder's Universe = the Omniverse of today minus a Multiverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
They didn't say, but supposedly soon.

Do u think LT will intervene?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea.

Those aren't the right images that define the grandeur of BEyonder's Universe.

You say, "just a Multiverse greater than Marvels"

But it was actually the absolute Infinity Outside the Multiverse:

"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planet s... LIFE Arises"

"Meeting NO resistance in the [B]INFINITE BEYOND"

"Evolves and Flourishes Within the New Universe,
BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"

"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"

No one said it was bigger than the current Omniverse.

Be thorough.

What I said was,

Beyonder's Multiverse was bigger than Two Megaverses.

And Beyonder wasn't "just a Multiverse"

Beyonder's Reality encompassed all the Space outside the 616 Multiverse.

That means
Beyonder's Universe was as big as the Omniverse minus a Multiverse.

Again,

Beyonder encompassed all the Infinite Space outside the Multiverse.

This same Infinite Space is what makes up the rest of the Omniverse today,
outside the Multiverse. [/B]

How can a multiverse be greater then a megaverse???

And he was a multiverse it stats that oure own multiverse was but a drop in comparison to his, so no matter how you IMO turn this, Beyonder was the total sum of a Multiverse that was infinitely greater then the marvel Multiverse but never the less his energy never expanded into more then a multiverse. And beyonders realm isn't the current omniverse, the omniverse expanded from the 616 reality into what is the omniverse today.

I don't want to follow this track any longer we are basically just running in circles around each other, and we will continue to do so and that will be a waste of nvr's thread.

I have already maked my list regarding how my hierarchy would look if I took levels of omnipotence.

1. Classic Beyonder and Thanos w/ HOTI
2. Classic Molecule Man
3. Living Tribunal

Whatever Mr. Master said is probably right.

And the entire thread probably could have been avoided just by going to Mr. Master's cosmic tiering thread.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please someone List for me the most powerful of these beings and or Artifacts from the Top to the Bottom

The IG
THe heart of the Infinite
the Living tribunal ( Classic)
The 616 eternity
The classic beyonder
the Current Omniversal LT
The True Beyonders
The infinites
Merlyn
Roma
Brian Braddock
Havok
White Crown Phoenix
Genis vell at his most powerful
MJJ
the Fury
HOM Scarlet witch

I need clarity on just who is omnipotent and who is nearly omnipotent.

ALL these characters are "omnipotent", but some are more "omnipotent" then others. ( 🙄 )

I know, I know..... It makes no sense at all, but that's just how things work I guess. 😬

Originally posted by Utrigita
No since the Inhuman gen and the Mutant works as two minus making a plus a Inhuman breeding with a Mutant will have a normal Child. (shown when The Inhumans moved there Home to the moon and Crystal and Magnetos son (cannot remember his name) have a child which was a 100% human.)

Inhumans aren't born with superhuman physiology, mutants are born with it. There is nothing the terrigen mists can't do.

Originally posted by llagrok
Inhumans aren't born with superhuman physiology, mutants are born with it. There is nothing the terrigen mists can't do.

Hey I'm only saying what Reed said.

Originally posted by Galan007
According to Marvel,

ALL these characters are "omnipotent", but some are more "omnipotent" then others. ( 🙄 )

I know, I know..... It makes no sense at all, but that's just how things work I guess. 😬

Stuff like that pisses me off.

It's like saying that Spiderman is more omnipotent than Captain America who is more omnipotent than Daredevil.

Seriously, if there is a single entity that is more powerful than you are, then you AREN'T omnipotent, no matter how much power you may possess.

Technically, if there is a single entity that is EQUAL to you, you aren't omnipotent, no matter how much power you possess.

Originally posted by Soljer
Stuff like that pisses me off.

It's like saying that Spiderman is more omnipotent than Captain America who is more omnipotent than Daredevil.

Seriously, if there is a single entity that is more powerful than you are, then you AREN'T omnipotent, no matter how much power you may possess.

Technically, if there is a single entity that is EQUAL to you, you aren't omnipotent, no matter how much power you possess.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I normally think of it kinda like the feudal system. A Baron was for all intents and purposes supreme in his land, but his power was still superseded by that of the Duke whose power was still superseded by the King.

I know exactly what it means - but omnipotence has a very specific definition.

Having LEVELS of omnipotence is outside that very specific definition.

Originally posted by Soljer
Stuff like that pisses me off.

It's like saying that Spiderman is more omnipotent than Captain America who is more omnipotent than Daredevil.

Eh same goes with DC. The Presence is supreme but he was stalemated by the GEB. So there are two supreme beings in DC, when there can only be one.
If you want to stretch it, according to some there are more than that. Some claim Spectre is omnipotent, some claim Michael has the power of God which would make him omnipotent; in short there are a lot of "omnipotent" beings running around in the comic book world.

Originally posted by Soljer
Seriously, if there is a single entity that is more powerful than you are, then you AREN'T omnipotent, no matter how much power you may possess.

Technically, if there is a single entity that is EQUAL to you, you aren't omnipotent, no matter how much power you possess.

I wasn't saying that it was exclusive to Marvel.

There are far more instances of tiered omnipotence than DC and Marvel.

No me gusta.

Originally posted by Soljer
I wasn't saying that it was exclusive to Marvel.

There are far more instances of tiered omnipotence than DC and Marvel.

No me gusta.

Originally posted by Soljer
I know exactly what it means - but omnipotence has a very specific definition.

Having LEVELS of omnipotence is outside that very specific definition.