Levels of Omnipotence

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Where did I say that marvel, does not have the right to create such n' such character? Marvel can do whatever they want, but the prospoect of levels of omnipotence is utterly retarded concept. I really do not care if marvel does it.

Originally posted by Galan007
In comics that much is obvious.

But by the actual meaning of the word, there is no power above omnipotence.

No, I'm referring to the actual definition. Both definitions of the word are acceptable in the English language.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well I'm not defending the concept, I'm defending the fact it HAS been established and we have no choice but to debate within that framework if we want to hold true to the characters.

But, lemme ask you a question?

Do, these comic book companies hold true to the characters or put out whatever they want?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, I'm referring to the actual definition. Both definitions of the word are acceptable in the English language.

There is no power beyond omnipotence, period.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omnipotent

om·nip·o·tent /ɒmˈnɪpətənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[om-nip-uh-tuhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2. having very great or unlimited authority or power.
–noun
3. an omnipotent being.
4. the Omnipotent, God.

Originally posted by Galan007

There is no power beyond omnipotence, period.

Word, I think it's stupid, but comics do it anyway. So, what are you gonna do? 😬

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
But, lemme ask you a question?

Do, these comic book companies hold true to the characters or put out whatever they want?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Occasionally a writer will take things to far in a single instance, so the best thing to go by what's acknowledged by the company as a whole.

but, writers are aprroved by the company, and that doesn't answer my question. Do you feel that the companies stay true to what the characters were designed for?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omnipotent

om·nip·o·tent /ɒmˈnɪpətənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[om-nip-uh-tuhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2. [b]having very great or unlimited authority or power.
–noun
3. an omnipotent being.
4. the Omnipotent, God. [/B]

You just further solidified what I have already stated.

Thanks. 👆

No, that link proves that one of the definitions for omnipotence is merely having great power, not infinite power.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
but, writers are aprroved by the company, and that doesn't answer my question. Do you feel that the companies stay true to what the characters were designed for?

Originally posted by darthgoober
For the most part. F*ck ups happen do to writers not doing their research and the greediness of the companies catering to fanboys who make up the consumer base, but if you look at the entire history of an characters established characters career and average it out, you can normally get a pretty good idea of the characters overall power and position which is what determines what exactly constitutes PIS.

So, how does that explain wolverine? is he just a **** up?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, that link proves that one of the definitions for omnipotence is merely having great power, not infinite power.

Omnipotence is All Power, though.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
So, how does that explain wolverine? is he just a **** up?

Omnipotence is All Power, though.

😆

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, that link proves that one of the definitions for omnipotence is merely having great power, not infinite power.

It goes on to mention "unlimited" power..... So... 😕

And are you honestly trying to make some kind of argument against omnipotence?

You're missing the point.

"Omnipotence" has more than one definition.

The more common one is unlimited power, but it can also mean merely having great power. That is why a character can be referred to as "omnipotent" but not be all - powerful.

People have to remember that we're talking about the levels of omnipotence IN COMICS here. If you guys want to get into a discussion about possible "real world" levels of omnipotence then you should start a thread in the philosophy forum.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
That is why a character can be referred to as "omnipotent" but not be all - powerful.

Do you realize how nonsensical that sounds?

It comes down to how the word all (or omni) is used, really.

"All" powerful as in you can do anything/cause anything? Sure, all of those characters can.

"All" powerful as in you have power over anyone? Not necessarily. Not if other people are omnipotent as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*

Do you realize how nonsensical that sounds?

You're not paying attention.

Omnipotence has more than one definition.