Firestorm (current) vs. Silver Surfer

Started by Soljer6 pages

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Copier..

😛

Mine was far more eloquently put.

Oh, and I honestly didn't mean to copy that, if I did. I've noticed that, at times, if I read something/hear something, and later write, the words I heard earlier in the day have a much higher likelihood of being used by myself.

Odd, but, meh.

Originally posted by Soljer
Mine was far more eloquently put.

Oh, and I honestly didn't mean to copy that, if I did. I've noticed that, at times, if I read something/hear something, and later write, the words I heard earlier in the day have a much higher likelihood of being used by myself.

Odd, but, meh.

haha it's not a big deal, but sucks for you as it seems we think the same way and everyone knows how I think 😱 ...tragic for you 😉

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Part of it is the experience edge.
Experience won't really give SS the edge here... The professor easily makes up for that difference, imo.

I honestly can't think of a thing SS could do to harm FS. FS has already shown the ability to control wormhole-like constructs which apparently transverse space-time, so even IF Surfer got ahold of him, [which is highly unlikely imo], I don't really see bfr as a full proof tactic.

FS can also turn Surfer's cosmic blasts into various other types of non-harmful elements. [He's transformed blasts from various beings into completely different energy types, on panel in the past].

And I also think of things like the GL-esque constructs FS can create from nothing, to battle numerous opponents at once..

All of these things make me think that it is a VERY close battle.

Surfer. 🙂

Surfer win.

Inertron for the win. Thor can't get out of it, It can't be broken in the future, and Firestorm used it in the PC days to deflect the Omega Force. Surfer ain't getting out of it, can't transmute it, he's done.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Inertron for the win. Thor can't get out of it, It can't be broken in the future, and Firestorm used it in the PC days to deflect the Omega Force. Surfer ain't getting out of it, can't transmute it, he's done.

What makes you think Surfer can't transmute it?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs10-1.jpg

Hmmm...

Inertron, inertron, inertron.

Nope, don't see the word in there.

Originally posted by Soljer
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs10-1.jpg

Hmmm...

Inertron, inertron, inertron.

Nope, don't see the word in there.

You dont' have to. It's the same way that element lad's people created Inertron.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think Surfer can't transmute it?

If Element Lad can't transmute it once it's made, what makes you think the surfer could? Thor couldn't break out of it in JLA avengers.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If Element Lad can't transmute it once it's made, what makes you think the surfer could? Thor couldn't break out of it in JLA avengers.

What makes you think that Surfer CAN'T do it if Firestorm can? After all Firestorm is the one I hear compared to Surfer(or refered to as "Surfer light" by some) not Element Lad...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You dont' have to. It's the same way that element lad's people created Inertron.

I don't get it, what's so special about the way he created it? Restructuring atoms is something that LOTS of transmuters do, so unless they're ALL making Inertron...

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think that Surfer CAN'T do it if Firestorm can? After all Firestorm is the one I hear compared to Surfer(or refered to as "Surfer light" by some) not Element Lad...

I don't get it, what's so special about the way he created it? Restructuring atoms is something that LOTS of transmuters do, so unless they're ALL making Inertron...

But they all don't, you have to know how to make it, and once it's made, it cannot be unmade.

*Still haven't seen anything that would make me think Surfer takes the solid majority here.* srsly

Originally posted by quanchi112
its no secret i love thanos but the guy has some amazing feats backing him up. prep makes things complicated and no one knows how long it could take thanos to acquire the ig if he wanted to. its all speculation. but i see what u are saying becuz with all our fav characters or characters we support there is some level of biased involved.

we are human so we cant escape this kinda shit i guess.

Everyone is biased to one extent or the other. That much is true. We all have our favorite characters.

The difference, though, between a fan and a fanboy is that the fan of (say) Wolverine will be drawn to that character and defend him when need be, but will also be able to admit when his fave character is outmatched. A fanboy, on the other hand, will continue to defend his character even when it is clearly evident that school ended a long time back (and when it appears like he may lose the argument due to logic IMMEDIATELY switches to all sorts of silly argumentative 'points' that hold no water but can drag on forever .....there are so many examples of such that there is really no reason going into that ....might even step on some toes on this thread ....without naming names .....ahem ....)

Oh, and there are fanboys of very powerful characters, not just the usual suspects (e.g. relatively 'low' characters, compared to who they are pit against, like Wolverine, Spiderman and Storm ....all who had or have their share of fanboys). A person can be a fanboy of more powerful characters, e.g. Superman, the Hulk .....or even Thanos.

The identifying mark is non-logical support of the character, coupled with the use of really atrophied argumentative remarks disguised as 'points.'

There are many fans of characters out there (e.g. Aquaman and Namor both have some VERY good fans who support the character, but use more logic than can be found in squads of fanboys).

And there are many fanboys of characters (e.g. the greatest-one-of-them-all who shall remain unnamed, but supported Wolverine. There are some ancients who used to be spiderman fanboys, but that passed on over a year ago. Currently Storm and Ironman fanboys abound, and there was that whole 'Huc' nonsense going on some time back that matched the Hulk ....basically a one-dimensional character .....against some rather potent people who were multi, or even omni, dimensional).

Bias is alright ....actually quite good (otherwise people wouldn't bother debating). It only becomes a problem when it is either taken too far (e.g. gender bias etc), or when it makes the person myopic (e.g. the poster who was saying that IronMan is faster than Superman).

prolly a split

Id say Firestorms weakness against the Surfer lies within the matrix (perhaps).. If he somehow manage to merged w/ it, his done somethin similar (Unilord, Earth, ancient ships matrix,etc), he could then disrupt it..

Originally posted by Roldz
Id say Firestorms weakness against the Surfer lies within the matrix (perhaps).. If he somehow manage to merged w/ it, his done somethin similar (Unilord, Earth, ancient ships matrix,etc), he could then disrupt it..

Now who do you know can even tap the Matrix but skyfather beings? And what's stopping FS from merging with Surfer and taking over his power?

Surfer is nowhere near powerful enough to **** with the matrix. Darkseid was the last guy to do anything to it.

As for FS merging with Surfer.......I thought it had to be a willing merger to work?

A couple things...

1.) Pulling someone out of the FS-Matrix, as Darky did, is a far cry from 'messing with the Matrix' itself -- That's a task no character has accomplished, thus far.

2.) Even IF Surfer could pull someone out of the Matrix, [mind you, there is nothing to support such a claim], it would do nothing in the 'long term' to FS, [ie. IF Surfer accomplished said task, it wouldn't make FS loose this battle].

3.) I have never seen FS forcibly merge another character to the Matrix -- Thus, that's not really a probable scenario here. 🙂

I seemed to remember Firestorm reverted to plain old Ronald once after being blasted.

Zeta beam forcibly force someone to merged w/ the matrix; something Surfer could possiby accomplish... Possibly..

His also suceptible to psionic attacks; it once made him thinking powerless..