Kain(LOK) vs. Pyron(DS)

Started by Sandai Kitetsu21 pages

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
PROVE. IT.

Play LOK.

This fight is stupid, It's like saying Kain will beat Galactus. Kain meets Pyron and is dead before he knows what happened.
Kain becomes Bats, Pyron creates an army twice the number in the blink of an eye to wipe Kain of the planet.
Kain becomes mist, Pyron sends an energy blast larger than the planet.

Maybe Pyron simply destroys the planet from Space, or right beside a sun where even if Kain somehow tries to get him he still can't.
Kain may not be killed by the sun but he is still physically affected by it. Pyron wins. Flawless.

Kain could beat galactus but it would tax the full power of the reaver. Pyron or whatever cant' beat kain because the reaver could freeze time or dump him in another dimension which would be BFR. Use charm to make pyron retreat or just blast him away wit tk.

The fact that you said Kain would beat Galactus proves you are in fact a Kain fanboy and should leave before I freak out.

Alot people beat galactus before. Alpha flight, Sentinel from team one, Thor drove im back. He's overrated!!

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
This fight is stupid, It's like saying Kain will beat Galactus. Kain meets Pyron and is dead before he knows what happened.
Kain becomes Bats, Pyron creates an army twice the number in the blink of an eye to wipe Kain of the planet.
Kain becomes mist, Pyron sends an energy blast larger than the planet.

Maybe Pyron simply destroys the planet from Space, or right beside a sun where even if Kain somehow tries to get him he still can't.
Kain may not be killed by the sun but he is still physically affected by it. Pyron wins. Flawless.

no it is not, Pyron is nothing on Galactus, Galactus has incredibly energy manipulation and may be able to turn pyron into nothing....

Kain has many options, he could freeze time, pyron cannot counter...and since when do you say where they start? and in the blink of an eye pyron creates armies, nothing suggests in the blink of an eye and not that the armies would do anything, those robots seem very lame to me especialyl compared to pyron himself

and pyron destroys the planet from space is the same, the only limit to kains soul death seems to be his eye sight since he has shown no other weakness to it...and now ive dug up all the emblems, kain with the Emblem of energy can control pyron and absorb him like Dimitri, the Emblem is the Emblem of the pillar of energy, one of the guardians through its power controls Boundless energy...which would be an incredible weapon even if it could be 100% proven pyron has no soul

i dont know much about Galactus but from my tiny knowledge on him i dont think Kain coud beat Galactus unless he was extremely hungry or weak and i doubt he can be soul reaved

Boundless energy? In the LOK world maybe, you shouldn't take stuff like that so seriously. Pyron is Skyfather level, he has incredible energy manipulation, can create matter from nothing, and make heralds like Galactus. The Huitzils are strong, don't doubt it, Pyron made a small army in the palm of his hand. Pyron could f*ck Kain up even more by destroying the sun, have fun freezing by your damn self for eternity. Pyron possesses more energy than all of the LOK universe, he's not draining him.

It is boundless energy because the pillars control all the powers of the universe of LOK. The reaver can channel that control. So, for the sake of this macth he can do the same here.Kain could absorb a planet if he used the reaver. Since it can abosrb life energy, it can absorb the planets life force. iT wouls take sometime, but he caould do it if he reall REALLY wanted too. Kain doesn't need robots, and he would kill huitzxil or whatever easily. think about it, kain controls every element with the reaver. He could control the elements that make up pyron on a chemical or nuclear level killing him.Or banish him to another world where he wou;ld be trapped forever.

assuming anything like this is the same thing as has already been debated, "sky father" level sounds like yet another title, and all this "in the legacy of kain unvierse maybe" is rubbish...i could turn it around and say "in the DS universe maybe pyrons energy is great".. if the game itself says it controls boundless energy and there is no other statement within the game, then anything else is just an assumption, why would you doubt the powers? because its not the DS universe or because its LOK?

also what makes Skyfather level?...obviously it must be a set of abilties...

if pyron Destroys the sun then kain will have to evolve for eternity all the time, God knows the power kain could kain in such time, its only a matter of tiny amount of time, perhaps a blink of an eye in kains eyes and especially pyrons before kain gains the ability to move to other worlds, all the souls pyron would have set loose into the spectoral regions for kain to power himself and the reaver, limitless power would come to kain eventually if you left him alone for eternity.

another note is the state powers of the pillars that control the states of things, it may be possible for kain to transofrm pyron into something with the power of states, change his cosmic state into something lesser, he could transfiguire pyrons makeup

Sandai I will not even acknowledge your posts. Skyfather not only suggests great power, but manipulation of matter, ability to create, and cosmic awareness is a common feat Skyfathers possess. Pyron has more energy than a galaxy, are you really gonna say that LOKverse contains more? If Pyron ate the planet just so you know, Kain would be drained of life force as well, in other words, HIS SOUL.

life force and soul can be very diffrent, in darkstalkers they seperate life force and soul, otherwise they would use it for jedah and Dimtris soul rending, i dont believe this lfie force is the same, since your soul isnt really alive in the common sense, its like your spirit. Also abosrbstion from the scans ive seen is not instant, more than long enough for kain to do his usual..u kno..time..etc etc

also energy of a galaxy, well LOKverse is coupled with dimensions seperate, demon world..etc etc, then the spectoral areas, wether or not there is more energy in LOKverse or in Pyron it doesnt break the fact that Boundless energy is boundless, no matter where its said in which universe

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sandai I will not even acknowledge your posts. Skyfather not only suggests great power, but manipulation of matter, ability to create, and cosmic awareness is a common feat Skyfathers possess. Pyron has more energy than a galaxy, are you really gonna say that LOKverse contains more? If Pyron ate the planet just so you know, Kain would be drained of life force as well, in other words, HIS SOUL.

Then Kain should be a skyfather or whatever. He can control energy, freeze time, create dimensions, steal souls, kill immortals. Pyron can't do things like that, he's not ont hat level. Also, Kain has the power to create a universe with the dimensional properties of the reaver.

DS universe is composed of two realms, human and Makai, and Pyron has eaten enough planets to the point he could grow more than three times as large as a galaxy. LOK's energy is not as great. You need a soul to be alive, and life force is the same as soul, just two different words.

Kain can create universes with the reaver which is bigger than a galaxy. Also, he has infinite power with the reaver versus pyron.

This is why I refuse to acknowledge your posts.

you need a soul to excist, to be a being, but you dont need to be alive to have a soul...kain is not alive, so he has no life force, it would be like trying to swallow dead matter, his only animated through the heart of darkness which is necromantic powers.

and i dont think the reaver can "create" universes and dimensions, that would be impossible, but he can definatley with the Dimension emblem imbued move through dimensions, pull other beings from dimensions so they can never escape him

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
This is why I refuse to acknowledge your posts.

If youplayed lok you would know the truth, Kain has the power of the pillars and the pillars are connected to the universe.

Okay I see your point about life force now. I'm taking a break off this thread before I get banned for what I'll eventually say to Sandai.

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Remember, the pillars are connected to the every property and can absolutely control them. When they were destroyed, the universe of LOK began to rot. So, if the dimension emblem is from the pillar thanhe can controll all the dimensions of nosgoth or create new ones.