Kain(LOK) vs. Pyron(DS)

Started by Burning thought21 pages

i admit i dont know much, just read from this site about him, says he gets his powers from other dimensional entities and Gods who give him powers...if thats true then he wont do anything by himself..also when does he do this time attack, if he can stop time like that then surely he can beat anyone..

also his Auto-shield is doubtful to stop soul devouring...so he would get soul reaved just like most of kains enemies

😆 yeh comic books are so inconsistent, one minute Galactus is getting his ass kicked then he comes back and wipes out a solarsystem or something stupid, like a pair of kids making up characters then scribbling over them

Originally posted by Burning thought
i admit i dont know much, just read from this site about him, says he gets his powers from other dimensional entities and Gods who give him powers...if thats true then he wont do anything by himself..also when does he do this time attack, if he can stop time like that then surely he can beat anyone..

also his Auto-shield is doubtful to stop soul devouring...so he would get soul reaved just like most of kains enemies

😆 yeh comic books are so inconsistent, one minute Galactus is getting his ass kicked then he comes back and wipes out a solarsystem or something stupid, like a pair of kids making up characters then scribbling over them


Shows how much of a fanboy you are you don't know shit about Strange but you say Kain wins cause he has a soul.

i didnt mean to make it sound like that....i thought it wasnt neccesery to repeat the powers kain has again and again, ime simply stating the fact Dr-strange has a soul will make him always vulnerable to kain regardless wether kain could beat him or not..link me where you know of dr-strange then, if you know him so well, show me..unless ofcourse you dont know else either 🙄

Dr Strange would cast a spell to remove Kains soul or would simply create a shield to negate the Soul Reavers' stealing ability.

Galactus blinks Kain from existence. Soul Reaver would have little if any effect on him. Galactus would also sense all his attacks prior and would simply send one of his Heralds to destroy him.
Galactus doesn't really lose, he is simply manipulated to do something else. Galactus would waste LOKU. 💃

Shut up you pile of fanboys. Get out more lol jk.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Dr Strange would cast a spell to remove Kains soul or would simply create a shield to negate the Soul Reavers' stealing ability.

Galactus blinks Kain from existence. Soul Reaver would have little if any effect on him. Galactus would also sense all his attacks prior and would simply send one of his Heralds to destroy him.
Galactus doesn't really lose, he is simply manipulated to do something else. Galactus would waste LOKU. 💃

yeh, thats why Dr-strange casts spells to remove souls and negate powers of items all the time, ime guessing by that logic he can beat green latern by taking away the rings powers..can he beat anyone then? he can seems to cast everything and anything, hell maybe he can solo the Living Tribunal 🙄

Galactus blinks kain from excistence..not among his powers otherwise he could of done it in the hundreds of battles he been in and what makes you think the soul reaver fully powered will have no effect, it can have powers over time, dimension, spirit world and boundless energy, but simply because its in the LOK universe its useless 🙄 also what can the heralds do..if their not all immune to mind control then then the ones who are not and have no defence to it will end up helping kain. And yes if i remember correctly (memory hazy) Galactus is weak and is threatened into submission by was it UN..or another object, Galactus is not as superior as he is made out to be, not when hes weak anyway

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

i know but Galactus wasnt being stupid, he was simply very hungry which is stated to reduce his power, and if this DR.strange is as powerful as being states then ime not surprised he was being beaten in his hungered state

Galactus possesses cosmic power beyond most forms of measurement (The Power Cosmic). He can levitate; restructure molecules; convert matter into energy and vice-versa; project energy with enormous concussive force; teleport himself, others, and objects across space, dimensions, and time; erect virtually impenetrable fields; restore others from any injury, even total disintegration; and endow or enhance powers within others. Even his heralds, imbued with the smallest fraction of his power, can manipulate matter and energy far beyond human comprehension. Though he generally avoids physical conflict, Galactus can bolster his own strength beyond any known system of measure. Galactus is telepathic, able to scan the thoughts of virtually any known being.

-From Marvel site.

Those are some of his powers aswell as billions of years of cosmic experience.

Kain or his Universe wouldn't stand a chance. 😉 💃

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Galactus possesses cosmic power beyond most forms of measurement (The Power Cosmic). He can levitate; restructure molecules; convert matter into energy and vice-versa; project energy with enormous concussive force; teleport himself, others, and objects across space, dimensions, and time; erect virtually impenetrable fields; restore others from any injury, even total disintegration; and endow or enhance powers within others. Even his heralds, imbued with the smallest fraction of his power, can manipulate matter and energy far beyond human comprehension. Though he generally avoids physical conflict, Galactus can bolster his own strength beyond any known system of measure. Galactus is telepathic, able to scan the thoughts of virtually any known being.

-From Marvel site.

Those are some of his powers aswell as billions of years of cosmic experience.

Kain or his Universe wouldn't stand a chance. 😉 💃

kain can do most of that..so what..infact the only thing he cannot do is teleport beings across time and levitate, thats the only things on that list kain cannot do, apart from the herald part since kain doesnt make heralds..

things kain can do which are not on their list are other time control feets...mind control..become intangible..etc etc, ive read that Galactus feat list so many times ,also his power reduces considerably it seems when he gets hungry not to menstion kains list of immortal powers over souls and his powers over his own blood but i doubt Galactus has blood, not proper anyway.

Kain has like two of those powers.

name the two "you" think he has and ill expand if your wrong, Kain can control boundless energy, has control over states and can transmute things like galactus can, can move through dimensions and pull things from other dimensions...and to boot he can do things Galactus cant such as stop time unless he has done it before...and he has power over spirit and soul..

Galactus can literally do anything he wants to.

Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh, thats why Dr-strange casts spells to remove souls and negate powers of items all the time, ime guessing by that logic he can beat green latern by taking away the rings powers..can he beat anyone then? he can seems to cast everything and anything, hell maybe he can solo the Living Tribunal 🙄

Galactus blinks kain from excistence..not among his powers otherwise he could of done it in the hundreds of battles he been in and what makes you think the soul reaver fully powered will have no effect, it can have powers over time, dimension, spirit world and boundless energy, but simply because its in the LOK universe its useless 🙄 also what can the heralds do..if their not all immune to mind control then then the ones who are not and have no defence to it will end up helping kain. And yes if i remember correctly (memory hazy) Galactus is weak and is threatened into submission by was it UN..or another object, Galactus is not as superior as he is made out to be, not when hes weak anyway

Depending on how hungry Galactus is, at full strength he is equal to eternity so he would just blink kain out of existance, even hungry galactus would beat kain, Galactus once rearranged Hercules (an immortal class 100) molecules and literally turned him into a worm, i wouldn't doubt it if he did it to kain as well.

A single herald would probably put Kain out of battle, they can rearrange matter at will, travel at millions of lightyears per second, indestructable bodies, vast cosmic awareness, they can detect weaknesses and create the weakness out of thin air, destroy planets with a single blast, destroy stars, absorb stars, telepathy, protection against telepaths, silver surfer can even travel through time. These heralds are just a fraction of Galactus' power.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Depending on how hungry Galactus is, at full strength he is equal to eternity so he would just blink kain out of existance, even hungry galactus would beat kain, Galactus once rearranged Hercules (an immortal class 100) molecules and literally turned him into a worm, i wouldn't doubt it if he did it to kain as well.

A single herald would probably put Kain out of battle, they can rearrange matter at will, travel at millions of lightyears per second, indestructable bodies, vast cosmic awareness, they can detect weaknesses and create the weakness out of thin air, destroy planets with a single blast, destroy stars, absorb stars, telepathy, protection against telepaths, silver surfer can even travel through time. These heralds are just a fraction of Galactus' power.

You won't get him to admit Kain loses.

Originally posted by Burning thought
name the two "you" think he has and ill expand if your wrong, Kain can control boundless energy, has control over states and can transmute things like galactus can, can move through dimensions and pull things from other dimensions...and to boot he can do things Galactus cant such as stop time unless he has done it before...and he has power over spirit and soul..

He may have them but they're nowhere near the same level. It's like saying a toddler (Kain full power) can punch, but it isn't going to hurt Mike Tyson. (Galactus at 2%).

He hasn't shown any of Galactus attacks other than.

He can only move through TWO Dimensions. Average Telekinesis/ Telepathy.
The only thing he has over Galactus is his cranking Mist and Bat evasion attack. 💃 Allot of good that'll do.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
He may have them but they're nowhere near the same level. It's like saying a toddler (Kain full power) can punch, but it isn't going to hurt Mike Tyson. (Galactus at 2%).

He hasn't shown any of Galactus attacks other than.

He can only move through TWO Dimensions. Average Telekinesis/ Telepathy.
The only thing he has over Galactus is his cranking Mist and Bat evasion attack. 💃 Allot of good that'll do.

nowehere near to the same level..prove it..Kain can control boundless energy..boundless is as high as it can get because you canont get higher than boundless, its everything...so energy manipulation kain wins..Galactus is not boundless...

Dimensioning...Kain can move through them..take beings from them and make them appear where he wants them to...Galactus has shown nothing better than that

also i have no worries with admitting kain would lose to full powered Galactus, thats a given..however the weakest form of Galactus has lost to many beings who cannot do the things kain can do and Galactus' heralds powers youve listed wont help them, their speed is nothing if time is stopped..also lightyear movement>>Dimensioning..and their bodies will mean nothng since kain wont be attacking their bodies..or he could transmute them into something diffrent with the power of the states emblem, he could for example make the silver serfers structure into something weaker

Hmmm did Kain eat some spinach mixed with steroid when no one was looking or what?

He doesn't have BOUNDLESS energy. Galactus has far more everything than Kain.

Speed is not a factor? These guys travel faster than the speed of light. Faster than Kains spells, they aren't affected by time and space. Most his Heralds are given Dimension shifting powers.

Galactus while taking a dump owns Kains Universe.

Originally posted by HonkyTonkMan
Hmmm did Kain eat some spinach mixed with steroid when no one was looking or what?

He doesn't have BOUNDLESS energy. Galactus has far more everything than Kain.

Speed is not a factor? These guys travel faster than the speed of light. Faster than Kains spells, they aren't affected by time and space. Most his Heralds are given Dimension shifting powers.

Galactus while taking a dump owns Kains Universe.

their not affected by time and space?.....well if thats true then i may reconsider...if it can be proven ofcourse and hell kain could rip them out of dimension traveling speeds...their light speed is nothing to dimension movements, light speed is slow in comparison

and yes he has boundless energy...if the game says so he does, the human energy guardian of the pillars had boundless energy and she was gaining powers from the pillars..Kain with the reaver has the Emblem of the pillar of Energy which would give him near to full power of the entire pillar..not just its link to the guardian..so he would have even more power than the human guardian who had boundless manipulation and control of energy...dont try and debate agaist something if you dont know it

also Kain has infnite magic power as well...through his Balance Guardian power

Silver Surfer would just transmutate Kain into a rock....his reaction time is less then a nanosecond Kain stands no chance against Norrin.