Originally posted by HonkyTonkManI don't think so, notice in the background we see a large glowing fiery light rising up.
Does Donovan kill Pyron or what? I never even knew there was a Dark Stalker anime.
I saw Donovan go all Silver Surfer on him (Rides his sword into space) and some type of energy kicks through Pyron and he then vanishes. Was that the end?
pyron beats kain 8/10, as i said, judging only by the anime atm he doesnt seem that powerful at all, his attacks done hardly any damage, ime just wondering, ime assuminmg that is demitri, that black vampire thing who comes out of the floating castle?, when pyron fights demitri in the anime, please tell me theres a reason for pyrons lack of strength to even break the room of that building, the buildings roof looks little more than tiled, again correct me if you know ime wrong and have proof it isnt, his hits must be weak if he cannot smash through tiles.
kain still has the weapon in this fight, one blast, one slash and pyrons soul is the reavers, or at least one blast anyway, the blast could rip pyrons soul and kill it, no matter how big or powerful he seems, his soul is vulnerable to this, it seems most of the Darkstalkers, their souls are very vulnerable and characters like Jedah who have the power to take souls are seen very highly.
it all depends on the distance their coming from, both kain and pyron can teleport it seems, although kains seems faster because pyron becomes what looks like a ball and then teleports wheras kain can just do it, so if one teleports the other can teleport also, the only problem is that pyron cannot kill kain..kain CAN kill pyron....pyron has few ranged attacks it seems, at least in the Anime, most of his ranged attacked were fairly slow
size is no point in debating..its pointless, if Pyron is unvierse/galaxy wahtever size, which now comes to me as not necceserily canon accoring to superboy, but if he becomes that size he gets owned, badly...kain in comparison will be like a germ in size, pyron wouldnt be able to see him and if he actually gets lucky enough to hit kain, his bulk will almost make sure the reaver gets him and his bulk will mean that kain could easily just soul death and kill pyron that way, the big guy wont even know it.
so "assuming" since all i can seem to do is assume since the facts for pyron seem to be so diluted and whats canon and what is not is odd i will assume that Pyron can be the size of kain, or a bit bigger, say pyron is 20/30 feet tall, moves at the speed of the anime and they start a good half a mile apart perhaps..pyron wins 7 or 8/10...ofcourse the distance they start at means something because if pyron is too far away he could end up soul deathed from a distance before he can react..or he could teleport, but then they would both be doing the teleport game and the odds of the fight become 50/50 since its luck who hits first.
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Well, I actually do have an explanation for why he couldn't break the tiles. Demitri's castle has a constant powerful invisible barrier around it to keep out the sunlight, only time things ever get in it are humans that Demitri lures into there to drain them. Pyron shattered an island made of ice, completely destroyed a Huitzil robot, among other things, any normal castle would be destroyed. The proof I have about the barrier is Demitri's wiki page, just look that up, it's pretty accurate.
pyron beats kain 8/10, as i said, judging only by the anime atm he doesnt seem that powerful at all, his attacks done hardly any damage, ime just wondering, ime assuminmg that is demitri, that black vampire thing who comes out of the floating castle?, when pyron fights demitri in the anime, please tell me theres a reason for pyrons lack of strength to even break the room of that building, the buildings roof looks little more than tiled, again correct me if you know ime wrong and have proof it isnt, his hits must be weak if he cannot smash through tiles.kain still has the weapon in this fight, one blast, one slash and pyrons soul is the reavers, or at least one blast anyway, the blast could rip pyrons soul and kill it, no matter how big or powerful he seems, his soul is vulnerable to this, it seems most of the Darkstalkers, their souls are very vulnerable and characters like Jedah who have the power to take souls are seen very highly.
it all depends on the distance their coming from, both kain and pyron can teleport it seems, although kains seems faster because pyron becomes what looks like a ball and then teleports wheras kain can just do it, so if one teleports the other can teleport also, the only problem is that pyron cannot kill kain..kain CAN kill pyron....pyron has few ranged attacks it seems, at least in the Anime, most of his ranged attacked were fairly slow
size is no point in debating..its pointless, if Pyron is unvierse/galaxy wahtever size, which now comes to me as not necceserily canon accoring to superboy, but if he becomes that size he gets owned, badly...kain in comparison will be like a germ in size, pyron wouldnt be able to see him and if he actually gets lucky enough to hit kain, his bulk will almost make sure the reaver gets him and his bulk will mean that kain could easily just soul death and kill pyron that way, the big guy wont even know it.
so "assuming" since all i can seem to do is assume since the facts for pyron seem to be so diluted and whats canon and what is not is odd i will assume that Pyron can be the size of kain, or a bit bigger, say pyron is 20/30 feet tall, moves at the speed of the anime and they start a good half a mile apart perhaps..pyron wins 7 or 8/10...ofcourse the distance they start at means something because if pyron is too far away he could end up soul deathed from a distance before he can react..or he could teleport, but then they would both be doing the teleport game and the odds of the fight become 50/50 since its luck who hits first.
2. I cannot believe you just compared Kain to Jedah, Jedah absorbs whole f*ckin dimensions in his right hand at will, and then can remake it. Also, who says Kain would even hit Pyron, he has a shield that was taking constant blows from a sword with 3 Gods infused in it.
3. Pyron's teleport may be slower, but while doing it he sends his shield up to avoid damage. Kain cannot kill Pyron. Pyron's ranged attacks slow? My ass. Watch it again.
4. It is canon(ability-wise), he accepts it, we've been thru it before, he was just bustin my balls. If Pyron was galaxy size, a swipe of his arm would take out the Solar System.😐
5. It would not be luck, Pyron is faster, and a great magnitude more powerful. Kain is DEAD! What part can you not get about that!?
dead? he cannot kill kain
and i was comparing that Jedah can take souls, like kain can, also whats this about Dimensions in his right hand at will?, when does he do this, ive never heard that before, ive only heard he destroyed or tried to destroy a dimension with preperation. ive also heard that this dimension in peticuler by some people that it was only consisted of like one planet.
Pyron is faster? not by much m8, instantly kain can teleport or mist so what, ofcourse its luck, luck on where they teleport too, no matter how fast he is pyron couldnt cover a mile or two in the time it takes kain to soul death him and kill him instantly..yes..kain CAN kill pyron, pyrons got a soul..Kain can destroy souls from a distance..his shield is no protection to his soul for his soul is not physical, unless you can prove his shield protects his soul. Kain doesnt have to hit pyron with his sword.
so far Pyron cannot kill kain...has a slower teleport...hell kain could just use soul death as pyron teleports and kill the thing and pyron cannot even kill kain, his only bet is to incapacitate him, which would involve throwing him into the center of the sun or continually pummeling him but what with mist and teleport kain wont give him the chance, just soul death...pyron is dead
Originally posted by Burning thought1. No, he actually does not need prep. I will post the link later. In his ending he absorbs the whole dimension in his right hand. A dimension is a dimension, it was more than one planet.
dead? he cannot kill kainand i was comparing that Jedah can take souls, like kain can, also whats this about Dimensions in his right hand at will?, when does he do this, ive never heard that before, ive only heard he destroyed or tried to destroy a dimension with preperation. ive also heard that this dimension in peticuler by some people that it was only consisted of like one planet.
Pyron is faster? not by much m8, instantly kain can teleport or mist so what, ofcourse its luck, luck on where they teleport too, no matter how fast he is pyron couldnt cover a mile or two in the time it takes kain to soul death him and kill him instantly..yes..kain CAN kill pyron, pyrons got a soul..Kain can destroy souls from a distance..his shield is no protection to his soul for his soul is not physical, unless you can prove his shield protects his soul. Kain doesnt have to hit pyron with his sword.
so far Pyron cannot kill kain...has a slower teleport...hell kain could just use soul death as pyron teleports and kill the thing and pyron cannot even kill kain, his only bet is to incapacitate him, which would involve throwing him into the center of the sun or continually pummeling him but what with mist and teleport kain wont give him the chance, just soul death...pyron is dead
2. Pyron is not even a physical being unless he wants to be one, his shield will protect him. What makes you think he will his Pyron, who is faster, and would just fly up instanty, crush his windpipe, forcing him to drop his sword, and just take him to the sun, or he could just rip him to pieces and incinerate his whole body.
Concede man, Kain has no chance.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. No, he actually does not need prep. I will post the link later. In his ending he absorbs the whole dimension in his right hand. A dimension is a dimension, it was more than one planet.2. Pyron is not even a physical being unless he wants to be one, his shield will protect him. What makes you think he will his Pyron, who is faster, and would just fly up instanty, crush his windpipe, forcing him to drop his sword, and just take him to the sun, or he could just rip him to pieces and incinerate his whole body.
Concede man, Kain has no chance.
his shield will protect him from what, a spectoral blast of immatereal, infact soul death isnt even a blast, it just rips the soul from kains enemy, no shield will protect from that unless its a spectoral shield or is said to save his soul, the soul death is not a projectile so hitting pyron wont be the proble no matter how fast he goes...and crush his windpipe? kain is a vampire, its unlikely he really needs to breathe and hows he going to crush anything if kain becomes mist, you cant grab mist
concede man...pyron can lose this
Originally posted by Burning thoughtThat's how much faster Pyron is. Kain won't be able to do it. Even tho he is a vampire, he still has a neck for Pyron to grab, he then takes him to the sun, or as I said in the Off Topic thread, eat the planet.
his shield will protect him from what, a spectoral blast of immatereal, infact soul death isnt even a blast, it just rips the soul from kains enemy, no shield will protect from that unless its a spectoral shield or is said to save his soul, the soul death is not a projectile so hitting pyron wont be the proble no matter how fast he goes...and crush his windpipe? kain is a vampire, its unlikely he really needs to breathe and hows he going to crush anything if kain becomes mist, you cant grab mistconcede man...pyron can lose this
why does kain have to be on the planet now?, why doesnt kain start off behind pyron casting soul death instantly if pyron is allowed to start where he likes. And no he wont have neck to grab when he instantly becomes mist and reforms a great distance away or behind pyron to soul death, Pyron isnt that much faster, unless you can prove it, the anime didnt show him being that fast, not to cover miles in seconds fast.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtDespite the fact that he did cover miles in seconds? Despite the fact that Pyron travels across space at a fast rate eating planets?
why does kain have to be on the planet now?, why doesnt kain start off behind pyron casting soul death instantly if pyron is allowed to start where he likes. And no he wont have neck to grab when he instantly becomes mist and reforms a great distance away or behind pyron to soul death, Pyron isnt that much faster, unless you can prove it, the anime didnt show him being that fast, not to cover miles in seconds fast.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtWhen he flew really really really really really high in the sky battling asomeone. Really, this is no debate. I honestly cannot believe you think that Kain is some sort of invincible God that can't be beaten. Everything you say is "Z0mG! KaIN I5 T3h Uberest! Hi5 R3aV3R is G0d and h3 CaN 0n3 sh07 T3H Pyron! H3 CaN'7 d13 aND w0u1D 3A7 HI5 50u1!" Why can't you admit Kain loses? You talk about Kain like he can beat anyone, no he can't. Pyron crushes him, he's almost an omnipotent being for Christ's sake!
miles in seconds, where is it shown that?..if its in the anime you posted then said the time when he does it, there is no miles in seconds from what ive seen and also show me his fast rate across space devouring.soul death=pyron pwned