Really, I have sumthin to say. If Kain can actually have a chance against Pyron, what stops him from soloing all of the LOK universe? I find it bullshit that a character can have moves like Soul Death and Time Reaver, he's almost unbeatable. It's all BS, Pyron is more powerful in every damn way, but according to you because of those gay moves Kain can win. I'm not mad at you, I'm more mad at the character.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Really, I have sumthin to say. If Kain can actually have a chance against Pyron, what stops him from soloing all of the LOK universe? I find it bullshit that a character can have moves like Soul Death and Time Reaver, he's almost unbeatable. It's all BS, Pyron is more powerful in every damn way, but according to you because of those gay moves Kain can win. I'm not mad at you, I'm more mad at the character.
besides why is it fair pyron has all this power but BS if kain has it, its only a game just like Darkstalkers and the characters have powers of their own, kains are just useful for taking out certain opponents who could be considered Uber in other unvierses because he can destroy souls and control time. Not to menstion give him a good few million years of evolving and he could very well become omnipotent, but that doesnt happen since i dont think kain excists eventually, something happens that ends him
well thats a good question m8, why doesnt he, thing is nobody apart from the creators really know who the Elder God is, i mean the thing is the size of Nosgoth, perhaps the whoe planet for all the players know, but he can be found all over the place, maybe its because it doesnt have a soul so the reavers power is enough to greatly harm the thing but cannot ill it completly, maybe kain cba to go to every part of Nosgoth cutting up tentacles and eyes, not to menstion the Elder God can regenerate his tentacles. The things still a mystery tho, the creators should get together again and continue the games story.
well you said he had a soul in the beginning of the debate you cant change your mind at a moments notice, besides it makes sense he has a soul since he was once a physical being on his planet wasnt he? before he became cosmic entity, and he wouldnt just suddenly lose his soul when he became that
also a soul is often what a beings conciousness is, as well as their ambitions, only machines dont have souls or beings who dont have one for special reasons
I can change my mind, I thot he did, but he doesn't have a body like most, he is not even really alive in a sense, he has no cells, which is one of the needed qualities to be a living creature. If he does have a soul, how could he lose it? If he has a soul, it can't be taken from his body, he has none.
ofc he has a body or more a form, his soul isnt just randomly floating anywhere, its in his form, it would be his excistence which is why things die when their souls are taken, one does have to be alive to have a soul, it merely has to excist, i mean kain isnt really alive as such and neither are most vampires, their undead aint they, onyl special undead but they have souls. Even the dead have souls if their moving, if their not excisting then their sousl have left them and they not really excist
Originally posted by Burning thoughtKain is undead, but he still has all the properties of a living thing, Pyron does not. Also, I have devised a counter to the Time Reaver, Pyron hits him with a mini sun(which can level cities). He can do it instantly like the Time Reaver, and while being hit by the mini sun, Kain would not be able to Soul Death Pyron before the Time Reaver sequence ends, I also assume Kain has some kinda Time Reaver limit.
ofc he has a body or more a form, his soul isnt just randomly floating anywhere, its in his form, it would be his excistence which is why things die when their souls are taken, one does have to be alive to have a soul, it merely has to excist, i mean kain isnt really alive as such and neither are most vampires, their undead aint they, onyl special undead but they have souls. Even the dead have souls if their moving, if their not excisting then their sousl have left them and they not really excist
Originally posted by Burning thoughtThat attack was not shown in the vid I posted. He basically just makes a mini sun appear out of nowhere that is strong enough to easily level a city. He has to aim it, but Kain is right in front of him and is not quick enough to escape. Also, Pyron has another power to give him an edge, Cosmic Awareness. He would be coming into this fight and would know everything Kain is capable of. I'll post the link to a site I found detailing Pyron's powers.
its still the same, all based on who reacts first, whats the mini sun?, is it in the anime? surely he has to aim them, since all attacks mostly in the anime he had to aim with his hands before something happned
Originally posted by Estacado
Pyron who has the size of a galaxy vs Kain the 1000 year old vampire who has a soul devouring weapon.....hmm
How about Pyron just one shots the planet Kain is on and the vacum of space kills him?
This is a spite thread Kain has no chance.
your not taken seriously in debates, at least no by me...first whos determining the location of characters and why would kain die in the vaccum of space, he doesnt need to breathe, hes undead...his soul alone allows him to live...infact he wouldnt have any air in his body for him to combust and if he did he could reform..stop time..pwn pyron, or stop time before pyron can even eat the planet since the size of the thing he would see it coming.
violent2dope is the expert at the moment i would say on this dude and he is debating properly
He has to aim, but Kain is right in front of him.😬 Cosmic awareness gives Pyron knowledge of EVERYTHING Kain can do to hurt him ahead of time. Anyway, this is a link that tells Pyron's powers and also ranks some compared to the other comics peoples(I wouldn't trust it tho, it's voted on by fans, and a list describing the most overall powerful characters said Supes was #1 and Living Tribunal was like #40 lol):
http://www.comicvine.com/pyron/44099/
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He has to aim, but Kain is right in front of him.😬 Cosmic awareness gives Pyron knowledge of EVERYTHING Kain can do to hurt him ahead of time. Anyway, this is a link that tells Pyron's powers and also ranks some compared to the other comics peoples(I wouldn't trust it tho, it's voted on by fans, and a list describing the most overall powerful characters said Supes was #1 and Living Tribunal was like #40 lol):
http://www.comicvine.com/pyron/44099/
lol obviously the site is mostly run by the fans then if LT comes out 40th haha, he should be 2nd, since TOAA is first...but anyway
fair enough but if pyron has to aim, even if kain is right in front of him, he has to direct the mini sun, wheras kain just thinks and instantly the time powers are up. Its mostly a game of who starts first, is jedah on that site btw?