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Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Well, during the scene with the Fantastic Four...Kirby is shown drawing events on a piece of paper. The avatar could draw Thanos out of existence if he wanted to...during a fight.

How is a supreme being going to draw another supreme being out of existence?

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Now, in a fight...and Thanos throws the first punch....well, I don't think the HOTI could absorb another Supreme Being...as in the Kirby Avatar. Kirby has the advantage...because he is technically a REAL person....projecting an avatar of himself into a comic book. He can erase Thanos via drawing it on a piece of paper. Thanos doesn't have the power to use that same method...because he is not an avatar of a real person.

Well I kind of see where you are going with this, but wouldn't you agree that Thanos w/HOTI represented the power of real writers as well (Jim Starlin)?
Thanos became everything the Almighty was.

"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ... my Will is Supreme"
Since that little Kirby Avatar is the Almighty, and Thanos became the Almighty, wouldn't that make Thanos w/ HOTI the same person and thus a representation of the real world writers?

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
But, I can go in circles with this argument too. Let's say another writer projects an avatar of himself into a comic book...and draws Thanos with a pen and paper. With this pen and paper...the other writer gives Thanos the ability to erase the Kirby Avatar from the pages of that particular comic book.

True that lol.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Thinking about all of this....it gets kind of silly. The power is all in whomever writes the damn comic book. If the writer wants Thanos to pwn the Kirby Avatar...then it will happen....or vice versa.

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Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Now, with the example above...with another writer interfering....and giving Thanos the power to defeat the Kirby Avatar....does that mean that that particular writer(TOAA) is above Kirby(another TOAA)..lol. Can one writer(TOAA) be above another writer(TOAA)? This gets confusing...lol....which is why writer's should NEVER project themselves on PANEL. It leaves too many questions.

True that. That's why they should stalemate because writers should be considered equals even though some write better stories than others.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Supposedly....each TOAA(writer) has the same general power...as they dictate the events on PANEL. In General...each writer should be an avid historian of comic book history...so they don't look foolish if they contradict another Marvel writer's work. However, retcons do happen. In this instance...the TOAA of the retcon showed more power than the TOAA of the original comic that was retconned. Why? Because another writer(TOAA) erased or dopowered the work of another writer.
Again...see how silly it is. I'm tired of even thinking about the TOAA right now...lol. What if the TOAA gets fired from his job at Marvel...by the Editor. Well, the Editor is above the TOAA. If that is the case...shouldn't the Editor be the TOAA? Questions like this is why the TOAA should NEVER be brought into any kind of DEBATE.

It's only brought into debates because people say the Presence=TOAA when they are not the same concept. I agree with you that TOAA vs Thanos w/HOTI would be silly. Jim Starlin vs Thanos w/HOTI- something he drew on a piece of paper... lol.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
As for this fight....Thanos was SUPREME on PANEL...no question. But, the writer was dumb enough to draw himself on PANEL too. So, I have no choice but to say that the WRITER has to be above Thanos. There is no way Thanos could absorb or defeat an Avatar of a writer....unless another writer gives Thanos the power to do so....but, I already covered that damn argument....lol

I'll respond to this part after you've responded to the questions I asked you above (Isn't Thanos a representation of the authors also).

quanchi112 Disney

thanos cant lose this. on panel he was almighty and supreme.

meaning all characters before him were less than him.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos cant lose this. on panel he was almighty and supreme.
meaning all characters before him were less than him.

On Panel, The Kirby Avatar was in FULL CONTROL. He was ABOVE the omniverse. The FF had to break the Fourth wall to get to him. Thanos would be the drawing in front of the kirby avatar, Where kirby is giving Thanos the heart. thus thanos cannot beat the Kirby avatar. Who is ON PANEL the equal of the presence.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
On Panel, The Kirby Avatar was in FULL CONTROL. He was ABOVE the omniverse. The FF had to break the Fourth wall to get to him. Thanos would be the drawing in front of the kirby avatar, Where kirby is giving Thanos the heart. thus thanos cannot beat the Kirby avatar. Who is ON PANEL the equal of the presence.

thanos was almighty after this. kirby cant beat him while thanos absorbs him when he wants to..

thanos cant lose to anyone in comics.

the heart has more impressive feats here than anyone in comic on panel.

😛

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was almighty after this. kirby cant beat him while thanos absorbs him when he wants to..
thanos cant lose to anyone in comics.
the heart has more impressive feats here than anyone in comic on panel.
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Exactly what feats does the heart have that are so impessive? beating the LT? Didn't a Celestial do that? Erasing all that is? DiDn't mxy do that and then recreate everything? He even beat a fully powered Spectre as well?And then Thanos says he is all the almighty was. Well the almight was Kirby. And kirby had complete control. how can thanos be the almighty when he never left the omniverse and never knew that he was being used? You FAIL.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly what feats does the heart have that are so impessive? beating the LT? Didn't a Celestial do that? Erasing all that is? DiDn't mxy do that and then recreate everything? He even beat a fully powered Spectre as well?And then Thanos says he is all the almighty was. Well the almight was Kirby. And kirby had complete control. how can thanos be the almighty when he never left the omniverse and never knew that he was being used? You FAIL.

thanos beat lt and celestials and everyone at once with ease. thats impressive.

mxy gets depowered easily by depowered hostless spectre.

same spectre who fights batman.

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nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos beat lt and celestials and everyone at once with ease. thats impressive.
mxy gets depowered easily by depowered hostless spectre.
same spectre who fights batman.
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WRONG. Fail. On so many levels. The joker with only part of mxy's powers and no knowlege pwned every superior being in the DC cosmos. At the same time.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WRONG. Fail. On so many levels. The joker with only part of mxy's powers and no knowlege pwned every superior being in the DC cosmos. At the same time.

the presence and the geb?

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
the presence and the geb?

No. And thanos with the heart never pwned The Kirby Avatar or the Collaborator.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. And thanos with the heart never pwned The Kirby Avatar or the Collaborator.

thanos was supreme and defeated all who stood in his way. kirby was replaced as supreme. kirby doesnt wriote for dc anymore s he had no power after he left the company.

sorry but thanos was supreme.

beat all.

mxy is supreme in ur book.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was supreme and defeated all who stood in his way. kirby was replaced as supreme. kirby doesnt wriote for dc anymore s he had no power after he left the company.
sorry but thanos was supreme.
beat all.
mxy is supreme in ur book.

Mxy is far down the food chain in my book. And Thanos Never faced God. He only got a power up placed there by God. And since God is infinite, He doesn't really need to put all of his power in something for it to pwn the LT. All he needs to do is make something more powerful than the LT and then set up events to defeat the LT. This is exactly what the Kirby avatar did.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was supreme and defeated all who stood in his way. kirby was replaced as supreme. kirby doesnt wriote for dc anymore s he had no power after he left the company.
sorry but thanos was supreme.
beat all.
mxy is supreme in ur book.

Just ignore him, he's an idiot (not intelligent in case he wants to report me for that 🙄)
He said Thanos never face God. That's the single most stupid thing you can say. Of course Thanos didn't face God, he was God!

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
Just ignore him, he's an idiot (not intelligent in case he wants to report me for that 🙄)
He said Thanos never face God. That's the single most stupid thing you can say. Of course Thanos didn't face God, he was God!

Was he? Then how does God become a schitzo. For thanos says that he was manipulated by the Maser manipulator. you calling me idiot, yet most if not everyone agrees that thanos loses to the Kirby avatar. Maybe you in the minority on this subject should think about who the real idiots are. 🙂

Please explain how does one manipulate themselves? Was Thanos crazy? did he set himself up? How does God manipulate himself?

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Was he? Then how does God become a schitzo. For thanos says that he was manipulated by the Maser manipulator. you calling me idiot, yet most if not everyone agrees that thanos loses to the Kirby avatar. Maybe you in the minority on this subject should think about who the real idiots are. 🙂

Alright the LT is second ONLY to TOAA, confirmed by Marvel and everybody agrees with this statement. Thanos HOTI defeated the LT. Now if Thanos HOTI beat the LT, and the LT is second ONLY to TOAA, what does that make Thanos w/ HOTI?

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by Air Legend
Alright the LT is second [B]ONLY to TOAA, confirmed by Marvel and everybody agrees with this statement. Thanos HOTI defeated the LT. Now if Thanos HOTI beat the LT, and the LT is second ONLY to TOAA, what does that make Thanos w/ HOTI? [/B]

The LT is still 2nd only to God. The heart of the Infinite is not a being. Thus The LT is the 2nd most powerful being to God. Now, The heart momentarily gave thanos a power up to defeat the LT. but guess what, Thanos was being used by God. So the LT was still in effect second only to god, becuz It was god's plan for thanos do to what he did.

Thanos=Creation of God
Heart of the Infinite= Creation of God
The End=The Plan of God

Thus The LT got defeated by God's Plan. Thanos had nothing to do with it. He was just the vessel used. God could have given the heart to mickey mouse. The out come would have been the same.

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The LT is still 2nd only to God.

Correct

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The heart of the Infinite is not a being.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? The LT is second only to God.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thus The LT is the 2nd most powerful being to God.

So now you're going to change what Marvel said? 😆 Intransigence will do that to prove itself right.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now, The heart momentarily gave thanos a power up to defeat the LT.

A momentary power up 🤨 Dude Thanos became God. The LT is second ONLY to God, hence Thanos became God.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
but guess what, Thanos was being used by God.

He was being used by Jim Starlin, the writer, you baboon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So the LT was still in effect second only to god, becuz It was god's plan for thanos do to what he did.

😆 Don't like the fact that Thanos was God, complain to Marvel.
Living Tribunal is second ONLY to TOAA, ONLY is the key word. For anybody just viewing this thread, the LT is not "third" to TOAA as nvr has erroneously implied, the LT is second.
TOAA>LT
THOTI>LT hence THOTI=TOAA because, once again, the LT is second ONLY to TOAA.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Was he? Then how does God become a schitzo. For thanos says that he was manipulated by the Maser manipulator. you calling me idiot, yet most if not everyone agrees that thanos loses to the Kirby avatar. Maybe you in the minority on this subject should think about who the real idiots are. 🙂
Please explain how does one manipulate themselves? Was Thanos crazy? did he set himself up? How does God manipulate himself?

ur impossible to argue with sometimes. u make no sense u argue with on panel stuff that u dont like. u hate thanos.

ur jealous. u like dc more.

thanos was god and was manipulated by god to become god. wasnt manipulated by god while he was god it was before.

ps u do know thanos wasnt god the whole story right?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy is far down the food chain in my book. And Thanos Never faced God. He only got a power up placed there by God. And since God is infinite, He doesn't really need to put all of his power in something for it to pwn the LT. All he needs to do is make something more powerful than the LT and then set up events to defeat the LT. This is exactly what the Kirby avatar did.

u said mxy defeated eevrything. presence is eveyrthing so in ur book he beat him.

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